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And these damn NeoCon and Birther idiots are just the type to get violent. Rush Limbaugh and Fox News are whipping an army of fools into riot mode. On another thread here -- fear, fear and more fear until someone feels justified in defending themselves from their own shadow.
He tried to blow up a plane with hundreds of people on it.
He declared war against America and wants to destroy it.
Hundreds of millions of Americans live here.
The guy wants to be bad. Let's not give him the opportunity.
That would be moronic.
Originally posted by open_eyeballs
They have to come to America, and will be given the right to a fair trial and a defense attorney and you hate that.
You may not come out and say things directly, but your cowardly neo con rhetoric is easy to interpret.
Originally posted by VitriolAndAngst
Soft on some shoe bomber? This guy is supposed to be a threat?
Originally posted by truthtothemasses
I guess you didn't understand that I could care less about Richard Reid or his conviction.
My god, you fear a complete idiot that could of killed just a couple of hundred of people?
It's people like you who support the wide scale state sponsored terrorism that are the problem, not idiots like Richard(I like putting bombs in my shoe) Reid.
Originally posted by truthtothemasses
Didn't know that one man(literally just some random one guy) could declare war on a nation.
Flyersfan, you are just plain silly. I can't read your posts anymore.
Originally posted by open_eyeballs
reply to post by FlyersFan
Exposing the FACT that Obama is going easy on a convicted terrorist who has not denounced jihad against America is NOT 'spewing or regurgitating.
I wouldnt doubt for a second you got this from your Gods from Fox news...or one of their puppet sources
OF COURSE we can be at war with the people who support, and put into practice, an idiology that is out to destroy us. It happens all the time. It's happening now on many fronts and with many different idiologies. The ideology of radical Islamic Jihad against the USA, and those that adhere to it, are at war with us.
He was definately 'connected' before prison. He took orders.
As for your 'doubting it' ... that's your subjective opinion.
Blowing up a plane is a bad idea as well, but that didn't stop him from giving it a try.
Those that engage in terrorism are the enemy.
ON TOPIC .... Obama is going soft on The Shoe Bomber.
He's put into place people in the justice dept who have a history
of going soft on terrorists. Holder has a history of being soft
on non-radical Islamic terrorists as well.
That's not anti-Obama 'rhetoric'. It's just the ugly truth about Obama.
FACT - Obama is going easy on convicted terrorists.
Originally posted by JohnnyElohim
It does not happen all the time.
since when does 'taking orders' make you 'well connected'?
Why didn't you quote me in full? What was your motivation here? Straw man, or something even more manipulative?
you've failed to argue convincingly that our legal system is unequipped to handle the crime of terrorism.
Secondly, you make sweeping claims with no evidence. Bad form.
Seems every time someone politely questions you, ...
Originally posted by JohnnyElohim
"Obama has selected people to work within the administration whose opinions and policies make me uncomfortable, such that I think they amount to going easy on convicted terrorists."
That is a fact. "Obama is going easy on convicted terrorists," is the conclusion you want your audience to concur with, but it is hardly an undisputed fact. Surely you can appreciate the difference.
It certainly does happen all the time.
We go to war with people of different ideologies - ALL the time.
Nazis. The communist Chinese by proxy in Vietnam.
And now the world is at war with those who practice radical Islam.
It means he's not 'stand alone' which was what the previous poster said.
Don't get paranoid. Simply that the basic part of what you were saying got quoted and we are not supposed to over quote.
Prisoners plot. It's what they do. That's common sense. Also, the guy was convicted of trying to mass murder hundreds of people, he should be PUNISHED .. not given freedoms that innocent people enjoy. He's in jail for punishment, not for his own enjoyment.
I presented the evidence that Obama has appointed people soft on terrorists in his justice dept and I presented the evidence that the justice dept bowed to The Shoe Bombers hunger strike.
'Politely' questions me on the topic ??? where?
Trolls step in and blather on and on about off topic partisan bunk.
Those are the facts of this thread.
If you wish to discuss 'Obama goes easy on the shoe bomber' ... great.
If you just wish to spout off topic partisan bunk and personal insults ... then that's just trolling and against T&C.
4 - He picked people in the justice department who are notoriously easy on terrorists. Not just radical islamic terrorists, but on others as well (I made note of that earlier). Obama could have picked people who are tough on convicted terrorists .. but he didn't.
5 - Obama's justice dept bowed to the Shoe Bombers hunger strike. (they should have let him martyr himself.)
6 - The rational conclusion is - Obama knew that the people he picked in the justice dept were soft on terrorists and therefore - Obama is easy on the shoe bomber.
ANYONE care to show me how Obama is tough on the Shoe Bomber?