Hacker loses extradition appeal

Hacker loses extradition appeal

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UK hacker Gary McKinnon has lost his latest High Court bid to avoid extradition to the United States.

US authorities want to try the 43-year-old, from Wood Green, north London, for breaking into US military and Nasa computers in 2001 and 2002.

...He had challenged refusals by the home secretary and director of public prosecutions to try him in the UK.

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This is currently the main headline on the BBC News website:

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His hacking into computers without password protection (!) is being portrayed by US prosecutors as "the biggest military computer hack of all time". He is a complete amateur. He used freely-available scripts to gain access to PCs that were left open due to the negligence of the NASA & military IT departments!

And now he's facing the possibility of 60-70 years in prison.

Talk about a fall-guy.

If those behind the prosecution had had an ounce of common sense they would have kept this completely under wraps. Could it be that Gary actually saw real evidence of the type of super-advanced top-secret undercover black projects so beloved of ATS?

If so, they should have kept this quiet instead of blowing this whole thing so out of proportion!



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[edit on 31/7/09 by pause4thought]

If you can not do the time then do not do the crime.

Hard luck what.

Take care.

Regards
Lee

reply to post by h3akalee


Well i for one think this man shouldn't be sent to the US and should instead receive a fair trail in the Uk. This just seems more a case of the Yanks being made to look like fools and wanting blood.

Justice for Gary.

Originally posted by h3akalee
If you can not do the time then do not do the crime.

Hard luck what.

Take care.

Regards
Lee

Nice, sympathy for a man with Aspergers Syndrome, who now faces time in an American Jail. If you knew anything about the case and the extradition that applies. ONE way only, we can not extradite a US citizen here. It's a disgrace and a sad day for the UK, pandering to the US again. What's wrong with keeping him here?

[edit on 31-7-2009 by woodwardjnr]

reply to post by mr-lizard


Me too but it's not going to happen is it ?

I feel sorry for the him but he is hardly a fall guy. If he was snooping around computer's that allowed him access to your bank account detail's would you feel so sorry for him.

I know it was not a banking computer that was just a example but he was poking his nose in and was found out.

Another what if for you.

What if he was never found out ? What would he be upto today ?

Take care.

Regards
Lee



[edit on 31-7-2009 by h3akalee]

Originally posted by h3akalee
If you can not do the time then do not do the crime.

He isn't trying to get away from imprisonment he just wants to be tried within the UK as that is where he committed the crimes.

reply to post by h3akalee


You seem to misunderstand my arguement. If he IS to be tried, then he should be tried in the UK were he will recieve a fair trial, as opposed to tasting American justice which is draconian and unfair to his illness.

That's my point.

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The Uk should not bow to the yanks. We have soliders refusing to fight now because the Yanks have warped all that is decent and good about the Uk, and now our government is bending over again to them in this case over the trial of a hacker.

The USA is not our boss, we should not be afraid of America, yet our spineless leaders are taking it up the jacksy from our loud-mouth cousins.


[edit on 31-7-2009 by mr-lizard]

Lot's of guy's/girl's sticking up for him that's noble.

But what he did was wrong that's what im getting at.

He must have realised what he was letting himself in for if he was found out. Pretty foolish act messing with the American government that's the point i am making.

Play with fire you will get burned.

Take care.

Regards
Lee

reply to post by mr-lizard


Yep but it's pretty common knowlege that if you stir the American pot it's going to get messy.

Just take a look at what's going on in the world and what has gone on.

I have made my point and there is nothing else to add have a good one.

Take care.

Regards
Lee

Mod delete this post.

Thankyou

[edit on 31-7-2009 by mr-lizard]

Well I tellyou one thing, so much for UK Law eh, The Governement can go to hellfor allI care. USA's poodles, Lapdogs, that is what they are.

I hope he goes into hidding, if for one woud volunteer to help him out.

I for one will be protesting outside his home, when they come to collect him for his extradition. Oh and I do hope no american authorities are there, will just make it worse.

He will not get a fair trial in the US.

Jaqui Smith, I would spit in her face if I ever see that hounddog again.

reply to post by h3akalee


Listen to the guy for a moment:





Here's his full story. It's quite fascinating, and very informative:





He talks about how he could see whole hosts of others looking at the same computers whenever he was looking. Goodness knows who they were - quite possibly foreign government-sponsored.

Garry was just a 'hack' messing around, not a real hacker. And if you listen to his testimony he actually had some quite laudible motives. OK he was to a degree misguided - what he was doing is illegal. But nothing he did was malicious. If you read the indictment against him (do the research) they are charging him with doing the precise nominal amount of damage necessary for a prosecution! He damaged nothing except certain people's/departments' PRIDE.

It's the prosecution that's malicious!

reply to post by Laurauk


Exactly Laura, we are becoming a 51st state and NO UK citizen in their right mind want that do they?

I think we should distance ourselves from American policies somewhat and take pride in our citizens, and you're right about our politicians. It's disgusting how much of a fool they have made us look.

Gary should be tried here. God help what would happen if American agents try to grab him, although i don't think that will be the case, more likely UK police will escort him to the airport.

reply to post by pause4thought


No, the US Defense, Pentagon what ever youwant to call it, were caught withthier pants down, and they want to make an example.

It beggars believe, that the law courts is allowing this to proceed. Absoultely disgusting to say the least.

Those judges should hang thier heads in shame.

Oh come on..

The man has not even gone to trial yet and you all have him convicted.

Give it a rest. He'll end up paying some fine if that. The lawyers will have it all tied up. It will be a giant waste of American tax payers dollars for nothing but a dog and pony show and he wont do any real time.

Draconian law

reply to post by SLAYER69


You seem quite sure about that Slayer69, what gives you that idea (i ask in all honesty).

I thought he faces long term jail time.

reply to post by pause4thought


Just a fast one before i get some work done.

What if he made all the thing's up ?

He was snooping maybe he was looking for something but never found what he was looking for ?

When he was found out he got scared.

To gain support from the mass media and public he made up a story about UFO's and alternate free energy ?

What if ?

I mean if the above is true it worked well would you not say ? We are having this conversation about it now right ?

Food for thought maybe ?

And i am in no way a part of the Skeptic Society.

Take care.

Regards
Lee

reply to post by mr-lizard


If they try to grab him, lizard they will be in for a rough ride. I can tell you now there is already, in the works, for a big protest, when ever they do come and trie and take Gary away.

I for one will be standing in front of him trying to stop them.

But as per usual. The UK Police will do the dirty work forthe US Authorities.

Originally posted by mr-lizard
reply to post by SLAYER69

 

You seem quite sure about that Slayer69, what gives you that idea (i ask in all honesty).

I thought he faces long term jail time.

Well if you have to ask then you really don't seem to know much about the American justice system. His lawyers will tie it all up or get it reduced to nothing.