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Originally posted by SuperViking
I always assumed 'natural born citizen' to mean anyone who was a citizen upon their birth: On American soil; from American parents (or parent), etc. Everyone else, like Arnold Schwarzenegger or Henry Kissinger, could be a citizen, but never a natural born citizen.
I really thought that was kinda obvious...I guess, to some people, not.
Originally posted by XTexan
reply to post by THX-1138
It's simple really, if you are born abroad and come here and become a citizen, then you are a Naturalized Citizen.
If you are born here, you don't have to be naturalized, because your already natural. A Natural Born Citizen.
[edit on 2-8-2009 by XTexan]
issue of “dual or multiple nationality at birth” is something that Congress may have to wrestle with.
This issue was first brought up in debates on the floor of Congress enacting the Civil Rights Act of 1866.
Rep. John Bingham of Ohio, father of the Fourteenth Amendment, commenting on March 9, 1866 on the Civil Rights of Citizens (42 U.S.C., Section 1982) clarified the first sentence this way:
“Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.”
11) I believe in the Maxims of Law, Justice, Honesty, Truth, Equity, Reason, Compassion, Allowance, Virtue, Understanding, Responsibility, Forgiveness, Freedom and Integrity. I believe in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. I believe in the Constitutional Republic that our Founding Fathers envisioned.
12) I do not believe in, participate in, respect nor support usurpation of power, tyranny, oppression, dishonesty, deceit, coercion, fraud or irresponsibility. I believe in consequences for these types of behavior, including restitution, rehabilitation and re-education.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
The document lists Obama's parents as Barack Obama II and Stanley Ann Obama, formerly Stanley Ann Dunham, the birth date as Aug. 4, 1961, and the hospital of birth as Coast General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya. No doctor is listed. But the alleged certificate bears the signature of the deputy registrar of Coast Province, Joshua Simon Couya. It was allegedly issued as a certified copy of the original in February 1964.
WND was able to obtain other birth certificates from Kenya for purposes of comparison, and the form of the documents appear to be identical.
Originally posted by THX-1138
I saw a citizen.
I saw a born citizen.
I saw a natural born citizen.
Each sentence becomes progressively more descriptive.