Did Jesus tell us who satan was? Name is Baraq O Bam-maw..if wrong prove it., page 3
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reply posted on 31-7-2009 @ 12:41 AM by DrMattMaddix
reply to post by antar


Awesome find OP

On the surface this is just cute entertainment.

Just as George Lucas' Star Wars series of movies really has a lot more to it then most people realize.

The Ancient Hebrew word meaning of the word Yoda is from a prime root meaning "Wisdom & Knowledge".

Wictionary has hit close to the mark with it's definition of wisdom & knowledge AKA Yoda

If you use a Strong's Concordance you'll find many words that have made it into movies or mainstream that have roots in Ancient Hebrew or Greek. They make the story telling seem new and creative when it really isn't at all.

People like Lucas, use their .wisdom and knowledge. to it's best advantage.

"Ah, You seek Yoda, mmmm?"

For those with eyes to see and ears to hear... If not, no worries you weren't meant to know in the first place.


reply posted on 31-7-2009 @ 03:06 AM by letthereaderunderstand
reply to post by TheAmused


Joh 1:32 And John bore witness: "I saw the Spirit descend from heaven like a dove, and it remained on him.

Luk 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

them...
G846 autos ow-tos'
from the particle au (perhaps akin to the base of G109 through the idea of baffling wind) (backward);the reflexive pronoun self, used (alone or in the comparative G1438) of the third person , and (with the proper personal pronoun) of the other persons:--her, it(-self), one, the other, (mine) own, said, (self-), the) same, ((him-, my-, thy- )self, (your-)selves, she, that, their(-s), them(-selves), there(-at, - by, -in, -into, -of, -on, -with), they, (these) things, this (man), those, together, very, which. Compare G848.

beheld...
G2334 theoreo theh-o-reh'-o
from a derivative of G2300 (perhaps by addition of G3708);
to be a spectator of, i.e. discern, (literally, figuratively (experience) or
intensively (acknowledge)):--behold, consider, look on, perceive, see.
Compare G3700.

When one is the beginning and also the end he is playing two roles. Beginning and Ending....

There is the image of Jesus, which every one runs too who is not Jesus, but his image and a likeness, then there is the real Jesus who is every man, just as he has said, "unto the least of these so to have you done it unto me".

The name of Jesus IN which people are saved is the meaning of his name, hence IN my name. Jesus means "Self Existent Salvation". He loves those who do his will IN his name. His will is that you would have life and more abundant. To those ending the life, that is not reproducing as to bear life, you are done with life.

Because he is a double edged sword he is catching those who say, but do not do, with his own image. Jesus has come in the flesh, because he is mankind. His name is an action, not a guy to worship. He came to fulfill the law. You can only fulfill the law by doing it, not saying a name, so he is toiling with this generation as he has in all. He is alive in you or rather you are alive in him.

He catches men in the craftiness of their hearts. It is craft to accept his death at your hands, rather then to do what he said, which is..."repent (re think) for the kingdom is at hand".

Eze 18:32 For I have no pleasure in the death of the dying, An affirmation of the Lord Jehovah, And turn ye back and live!

Eze 33:11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

Heb 10:6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.

Isa 45:15 Truly, you are a God who hides himself, O God of Israel, the Savior.
Isa 45:16 All of them are put to shame and confounded; the makers of idols go in confusion together.

Isa 45:21 Declare and present your case; let them take counsel together! Who told this long ago? Who declared it of old? Was it not I, the LORD? And there is no other god besides me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none besides me.
Isa 45:22 "Turn to me and be saved, all the ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no other.
Isa 45:23 By myself I have sworn; from my mouth has gone out in righteousness a word that shall not return: 'To me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear allegiance.'
Pro 6:2 you are snared with the words of your mouth; you are captured with the words of your own mouth.
Job 15:6 Your mouth condemns you, and not I; yea, your own lips testify against you.

Luk 21:6 "As for these things that you see, the days will come when there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down."

Every knew will bow...this is death. Every tongue will confess...this is saying the name of your newborn, a name only you know. This is the truth.


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reply posted on 31-7-2009 @ 03:17 AM by theyreadmymind
reply to post by Guzzeppi


That's exactly what I was coming here to say except for the BS part. There was no clear reason why he chose that word. It appears he just picked it because he thought it was a synonym, but we would need someone who is well-versed in both of these languages to tell us if that is even good practice to do so in a situation like this.

If God put that there for us to find you'd think we wouldn't have to do back-flips to make it fit unless God wanted to throw a dose of doubt into the mix, which I guess is possible. You know, God can't have people actually knowing things as that would destroy the whole purpose of faith.

[edit on 31-7-2009 by theyreadmymind]


reply posted on 31-7-2009 @ 04:24 AM by Neo Christian Mystic
reply to post by TheAmused


Has it ever occured to you that USA may be the Orange (fiery red, or orange like the soil you see a lot of in USA, as in Grand Canyon) Water Dragon with Pentagon and it's 10 horns (Lat. cornus means both corner and horn, and an extruded pentagon has ten horns or corners)? Another interresting thing with USA, is how one of Satan's most prominent names is Ba'al Sebul, Canaanese for Lord of Rising, often perverted into Beelzebub -- "Lord of the Flies". In Hebrew the word for or "rising" is Nasa. The crew of a regular spaceflight with the space shuttle carries seven astronauts etc. The Allseeing Eye might be ISS, I don't know, but there's a bunch of Satanic lore woven into the US culture and nation.

Maybe USA will fall during the reign of Barak Obama. Another verse you should have remembered in addition to the one you quoted, is the following from Luke 17:24 "For the Son of Man in his day will be like the lightning, which flashes and lights up the sky from one end to the other."

Mir, the first functional space station, fell into the sea in March 2001, like a fireball. Mir is a Russian word which means Peace and Nation and Village or Community. Or like Jesju says:

Matthew 10:34 "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace (Ru. MIR) to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."

And concidering the following, knowing that the color associated with Russia and socialism is blood red, like the color of the horse in the following verse (Jesju was a proto socialist, working among and summoning the workingclass, opposing the PTB and the ruling upper class and knowing that the old Norse name for Istanbul or Bysantz was Miklagard or "Estate of Michael", the worldly rulers of Bysantz were the Tsars:

Revelation 6:4 "Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make men slay each other. To him was given a large sword."

Will Russia bring down USA during the reign of Barak Obama? It would fit the pattern…

[edit on 31/7/2009 by Neo Christian Mystic]


reply posted on 31-7-2009 @ 04:38 AM by letthereaderunderstand
Originally posted by theyreadmymind
reply to post by Guzzeppi


That's exactly what I was coming here to say except for the BS part. There was no clear reason why he chose that word. It appears he just picked it because he thought it was a synonym, but we would need someone who is well-versed in both of these languages to tell us if that is even good practice to do so in a situation like this.

If God put that there for us to find you'd think we wouldn't have to do back-flips to make it fit unless God wanted to throw a dose of doubt into the mix, which I guess is possible. You know, God can't have people actually knowing things as that would destroy the whole purpose of faith.

[edit on 31-7-2009 by theyreadmymind]


We are allowed to know everything, it's what we choose to believe that hinders us.

If we see what is truth, then nothing is hidden which will not be revealed. If God says that he is living and also that he is true, yet we honor not the living, we ourselves are dead being found false and having our names blotted from life.

You are the vessel of countless generations and the house of the living God. As you have been born, so to must you bear or the blood is on your head....like a relay race, runner is rounding the track and the baton is extended from his hand....ready, set, GO!!! It's all in your hands now, run a good race, the next runner is waiting, only 23 chromosomes away.

Joh 3:11 Truly, truly, I say to you, That which we know, we speak; and that which we have seen, we testify. And you do not receive our testimony.

Joh 4:22 You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is of the Jews (Celebrated).

You are not accountable for what you do not know, unless you make yourself accountable to the unknown, then that which you do not know will rule over you by your own subjection.

You see the birds of the air, and the flowers of the field, you know them. Start with the things you know, and everything else will show itself true or false so that you may be free to live life, and more abundant.

Peace


reply posted on 31-7-2009 @ 05:07 AM by letthereaderunderstand
Originally posted by Neo Christian Mystic
reply to post by TheAmused


Has it ever occured to you that USA may be the Red Water Dragon with Pentagon and it's 10 horns (Lat. cornus means both corner and horn, and an extruded pentagon has ten horns or corners)? Another interresting thing with USA, is how one of Satan's most prominent names is Ba'al Sebul, Canaanese for Lord of Rising, often perverted into Beelzebub -- "Lord of the Flies". In Hebrew the word for or "rising" is Nasa. The crew of a regular spaceflight with the space shuttle carries seven astronauts etc. The Allseeing Eye might be ISS, I don't know, but there's a bunch of Satanic lore woven into the US culture and nation.

Maybe USA will fall during the reign of Barak Obama. Another verse you should have remembered in addition to the one you quoted, is the following from Luke 17:24 "For the Son of Man in his day will be like the lightning, which flashes and lights up the sky from one end to the other."

[edit on 31/7/2009 by Neo Christian Mystic]


You are the first one I've seen to know what NASA means. "To life up"...Good Job

More fun facts.

Egypt is from Mitzraim which is Mary as in America which 3 ships followed a star to land on. America was poor in the beginning, but will be buried with the rich. Red, White and Blue are Egyptian Colors.

Joseph is Yusef which is Ussa or USA is the husband of Mary.

Hollywood is placed upon the head of man as they walk towards their death. it is prickly on the truth side.

The Generation in which the dove descended and stayed is the Baby Boom generation. Christians are said to use a sign between each other in the form of a v/u crossed or "the peace sign"
It is that generation which spawned "Rock" and roll.

Jew literally means "Celebrated" or Celebrity....who salvation is of...the celebrity, as they are recalled to mind by millions.

John F. Kennedy said, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country" as John the baptist said, "Make strait the pathways of the lord"

It was requested that Johns head be brought to the daughter of Herod which means Hero, and so Kennedy's head was on the silver platter of a morgue dish.

The beatles were the Silver Beatles and before that "The Quarry Men"....Baetlys means Rock/Stone....All you need is love.

Elvis Aaron Presley means "All wise" "Exalted/Light Bearer" "Priest" and he is the KING of Rock and Roll.

There are so many we would be here for days, but those are fun.

Ok a couple more

The tomb of the unknown soldier is also the plaque that Paul, which means "little", was addressing when he spoke of "the unknown God". God goes forward as a man of war.

ATS is mentioned in the bible as "the Athenians" who sat around all day discussing Conspiracy.

Peace

[edit on 31-7-2009 by letthereaderunderstand]


reply posted on 31-7-2009 @ 05:15 AM by helen670
Why do people keep MAKING up their OWN ideas of who or what the antichrist is?
Did you know that by doing this, one can easily be deceived...this is EXACTLY what the DEVIL wants to do.
We are NOT told his name because PRECISELY this kind of OWN thinking would occur.
If the Scriptures had given a name, how many of those with the SAME name would be prosecuted and even murdered by the crazies of OWN ideas of what Scripture says!

Revelation is not used in LITURGY and never was used in church in early Christian times because BEING a Christian is not about figuring out WHO the antichrist will be.
It is common knowledge to try and figure all of this out, but without GUIDANCE we cannot do this!
Jesus Christ CHOSE His Apostles for similar reasons....To Guide those that want to follow Him.
Like another member here has said, and a few others in previous posts...
Bush was NOT the Antichrist.
Neither were MANY others that people FALSELY accused for being the antichrist.
Many PROPHECIES have also FALSELY accused people of being the Antichrist.
Is this fair?
Many names have been ascined to 666 and all have fallen,so there needs to be an inner meaning to what it stands for...not an EXTERIOR one!
The actual number 666 is to SUM up the whole of the Antichrist-Beast
6...These teachings are not merely a few years old , nor are they a few thousand...They perfectly align themselves with the Old testament teachings!
One cannot simply use their OWN ideas of who or what the antichrist will be.....DECEPTION is easier then one thinks!

In Christ, humanity is shown an example of the fullness of the Godhead (cf. Col. 2:9). The Antichrist, by contrast, will unite in himself all incompleteness, all imperfection, and deficiency.
The symbol of imperfection - that seeks to appear as perfection - is none other than the number six.
In the number of the beast this imperfection is raised to its extreme: it is not merely six, but six hundred, sixty-six!

If the Son of God co-exists indivisibly and in unconfused union with the Father and the Holy Spirit,
the son of perdition,
Antichrist,
exists in the closest possible union with satan and his false prophet.
The three of them together represent a false trinity,
as it were: the spirit of malice-the beast-the second beast.
These three deficient persons,
one in their spiritual essence,
are united in a single incompleteness,
whose symbol is 666. And so, the number of the name of the beast contains in condensed form the entire diabolical confession of the false religion of the Antichrist.
Herein lies the evil power of this bestial name.

The BEAST 666




“Here is wisdom.
Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast” (Revelation 13.18)?
In other words, a special gift of wisdom,
of spiritual understanding,
is required in order to understand this mystery.
And who, in our corrupt generation can claim to have that gift,
which was not given to the Holy Fathers of earlier generations and has not been given to the leaders of the Church in the present generation?
It is precisely for this reason that no attempt will be made in this article to provide a definitive answer to the question: who (or what) is the beast,
and what is the meaning of his number?
Instead, a different, but perhaps more necessary question will be addressed: do we have good reason to believe that we have reached the very last times of the world?
More precisely: have all the prophecies relating to the times preceding the appearance of the Antichrist already been fulfilled?
Has the reign of the Antichrist begun~


Who claims to have such understanding, if the Early Christians themselves felt 'Unworthy' to decipher the Antichrists name?



The beast who came from the sea and the beast who came out of the earth (Rev. chs. 13-14).
The majority of the Holy Fathers understand "the beast from the sea" to be the antichrist and "the beast from the earth" to be the false prophet.
The sea symbolizes the unbelieving mass of humanity, which is always restless and turbulent with passions.
From further narrative about the beast and from a parallel narrative of the prophet Daniel (Dan. chs. 7-8),
it follows that the beast is the whole godless empire of the antichrist.
In their outer appearance the dragon-devil and the beast coming from the sea, to whom the dragon passed on its rule, resemble each other.
Their external attributes denote their slyness, cruelty, and moral indecency....
SOURCE


To have a complete picture, one needs to look at the Old Testament as well as what the New Testament is telling us.The Fathers understood this and often came together for such discussions.
Without TRUE Humility one cannot simply know who the antichrist will be.
One will not be saved just because he knows the name of the Antichrist.
Scripture clearly tell us that we must be careful in ALL matters of Life...spiritual as well as in the Body(wordly)

ICXC NIKA
helen


reply posted on 31-7-2009 @ 06:33 AM by letthereaderunderstand
Originally posted by helen670
Why do people keep MAKING up their OWN ideas of who or what the antichrist is?
Did you know that by doing this, one can easily be deceived...this is EXACTLY what the DEVIL wants to do.

Many names have been ascined to 666 and all have fallen,so there needs to be an inner meaning to what it stands for...not an EXTERIOR one!
The actual number 666 is to SUM up the whole of the Antichrist-Beast



“Here is wisdom.
Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast” (Revelation 13.18)?


Count is not accurate for the understanding, It is pebble, small stones used in counting lots to relatives. Like drawing straws.

You obviously note that the number is not 666, but rather 600, and 10 percent of that is 60 and 10 percent of that is 6. This number is speaking of 3 generations or Lot's, because God retains a 10th, that is a tithe. This is closing the pyramid/Ark/Pr that is House by three 60 degree turns or turning 180 degrees from live which is Evil. This is ending the life in you by not reproducing, there fore the anti christ is not one, but is deceiving all who are committing the Abomination of Desolation...the ending of the bloodline...the land you are given to possess.

Who claims to have such understanding, if the Early Christians themselves felt 'Unworthy' to decipher the Antichrists name?


God is true, if you see truth you will hear God and fear for your life in you.

1Jn 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

A spirit and a mindset, not an individual. God doesn't honor a man.

Christ means Anointed. Jesus means "Self existent salvation" It is IN this name you are saved, by action, not saying a name. To confess is to confer...action, after camera, after Lights.

Self existent salvation anointed. Who ever is not doing this, is anti Christ.
This is the truth, and what we know. Bear no life, have no life to witness...see truth. "Forbid not the children to come to me"
Spirit and truth means Cause and Effect, saying and doing.
The kingdom does not come with observation. Seeing people give life, is not having life...it's voyeuristic and vanity making your life for not.

Ecc 3:18 I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts.

When the 7 billionth soul is served, so is the beast with 7 HEADS and 10 HORNS....Trumpets blow through an O as voices blow through mouths. It crowns your judgment with your own words. (not you specifically helen, but us all)

As of July 9th......World 6,774,592,730

Sign post up ahead....

"Time keeps on tickin, tickin, tickin into the future"


reply posted on 31-7-2009 @ 08:04 AM by Neo Christian Mystic
Originally posted by omarsharif
He does give us more liberty in sacrificing our children, but only before they are born. after killing them they are (most of them) also send off to be burned. (ritual?)


Until a foetus breathes for the first time, it is per definition a parasite inside it's incubator, and works as a fixed part of the person or incubator growing it. Can you kill or murder a part of someone? Sacrifise OK, but kill? No.

A prematurely born baby can live up to have a good life, but normally children born from a foetus which is not fully evolved or built, may suffer from a wide range of diseases and disabilities which may be further transmitted onto later offspring as genetic disorders. Bringing up a prematurely born baby rise a lot of ethical dilemmas. I'd say, give these foeti life and purpose through their stem cells and give their life as a gift to parents otherwise unable to get pregnant, or people with terrible diseases and genetic disorders etc.

IMHO It is better to abort an unwanted foetus than to see it be raised by people who doesn't want them or love them. However, it's better to use a condom or a copper serpent to protect oneself from the busy biting serpents. God turned Adam into a living soul first when and after he had breathed air through his nostrils.

Breath in Hebrew is the same as spirit. Jesjuah gave up his spirit, ie. breath, on the cross. He stopped breathing -- for a while. Now how can you say Jesjuah was dead on the cross while a foetus is alive in the woumb?


reply posted on 1-8-2009 @ 06:18 AM by Neo Christian Mystic
Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
reply to post by Neo Christian Mystic


What is breath?


Respiratory functions, enabling the person to skream and speak. In Hebrew Rauch means both spirit/ghost and breath.


reply posted on 1-8-2009 @ 07:47 AM by octotom
Here is the link to a reply that I made on another thread about this Obama thing.

There is a problem with the idea. The words don't appear, specifically "baw-wah", in the Hebrew New Testament. It appears to be a concocted idea, based on what words mean [which makes sense initally], without actually looking to see what is actually in the Hebrew New Testament.
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