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Topic started on 10-5-2004 @ 11:46 AM by Colonel


In fact, he predicted that this election is Kerry's to lose. I'm not surprised. its time to get the adults BACk in the White House.

The Election Is Kerry's To Lose
By John Zogby

I have made a career of taking bungee jumps in my election calls. Sometimes I haven't had a helmet and I have gotten a little scratched. But here is my jump for 2004: John Kerry will win the election.

Have you recovered from the shock? Is this guy nuts? Kerry's performance of late has hardly been inspiring and polls show that most Americans have no sense of where he really stands on the key issues that matter most to them. Regardless, I still think that he will win. And if he doesn't, it will be because he blew it. There are four major reasons for my assertion:

www.zogby.com...



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reply posted on 10-5-2004 @ 02:48 PM by Homer Jay


"It's time to get the adults back in the White House"? Dude, you just quoted a BUSH/CHENEY '00 campaign bumper sticker.



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reply posted on 10-5-2004 @ 03:04 PM by infinite


I think Kerry will win, to be honest i don't think he'll make a good president, but he can't do anyone worse then George Bush.



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reply posted on 10-5-2004 @ 03:35 PM by RedOctober90


To me, it doesen't even matter who wins.. it's the same garbage and constant lies we always get no matter who is in office.

I am busy getting ready to protect myself and my interests from these idiots.

[Edited on 10-5-2004 by RedOctober90]



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reply posted on 10-5-2004 @ 03:53 PM by RANT


I read the article (and often read Zogby) and for the most part can see his four points toward a JFK win...

But as a political pollster (of which I know something) I'm shocked he doesn't cite history or dollars spent so far on ads.

There's hardly EVER been an incumbant that wasn't leading by 10 points right now...EVEN if they went on to lose. CARTER was beating the pants off Reagen this far before the election.

Most of that has to do with spending and the accessibility of the incumbents message...of which Bush has been dumping millions and blitzing the media...yet to no avail. That's damning right there. To spend all that and TIE!

BUT Zogby left out the possibility of another 9/11 or the like. It's nearly impossible to gauge public reaction, though I suspect Kerry would still win. We'll see.

Don't underestimate Karl Rove dirty tricks in this. The man made McCain look like a Commie in the run-off.



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reply posted on 10-5-2004 @ 03:59 PM by Bout Time


I posted how they're testing a planned gas release in NYC to "simulate" how toxic gasses would disperse......I guess there are really no simulators to train on for that one, no?



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reply posted on 10-5-2004 @ 04:18 PM by madmanacrosswater


to get the current group in Washington that is now "in charge" out of there.

They have treated the American people like idiots hoping we are not checking behind them. I have been and it is terribly ugly.

I watched a show on CNN a couple of weekends ago where Rumsfeld and Gen. Myers both stated they had no idea the conditions in Iraq today would be like this a year ago. Funny I realized it would be like this long before we started our invasion. Then six months ago Rumsfeld states that this is not guerilla warfare. What UFO did he come off of?

Now we have the POW mess and all points to Rumsfeld, and the buck should stop at the top.

They called Clinton a liar? This group makes Clinton look like a saint.



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reply posted on 10-5-2004 @ 05:18 PM by KrazyIvan



Originally posted by infinite
I think Kerry will win, to be honest i don't think he'll make a good president, but he can't do anyone worse then George Bush.



kerry will win when hell freezes over!



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reply posted on 10-5-2004 @ 06:11 PM by Colonel



Originally posted by Homer Jay
"It's time to get the adults back in the White House"? Dude, you just quoted a BUSH/CHENEY '00 campaign bumper sticker.


I know. I did it on purpose.

Now, see this:

Bush approval hits new lows in poll
Support for war in Iraq also lowest ever

(CNN) -- President Bush holds a single-point lead over Democratic challenger John Kerry in the latest CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll of likely voters, but voters' approval of Bush's performance and support for the war in Iraq dropped to new lows in the survey.

www.cnn.com...



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reply posted on 10-5-2004 @ 06:52 PM by Phoenix


Like I said in another post juuussstt like this one a few months back. "you demorats keep on thinking that way - its just what we want you to do" keep up the good work guys.



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reply posted on 10-5-2004 @ 09:32 PM by Seekerof


Allah has shown Zogby the way, the truth, and the light.
In reality, the four reasons he gives amount to:
ABC
NBC
CBS
CNN

Gee look, Colonel even referenced a poll from CNN.
Poll numbers don't mean squat.
Kerry has no announced VP yet.
His economic plan amounts to a paper tiger.
His health insurance plan equates to an even greater National deficit.
Hasn't even been to convention yet.
And there is still another 6 months to the real polls...anything, for boths sides, can happen to influence.

Best of luck to Mr. Kerry, but counting on Zogby to assume that victory is assured is foolhardy, at best.



seekerof



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reply posted on 10-5-2004 @ 09:40 PM by ashley


www.journalnow.com...!localnews&s=103764550 9099

Bush needs another terror attack and it looks like him and his mossad buddies are working on it.

Dont think it will work though, just make him look like more of a failure.
There always is martial law as a last resort.



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reply posted on 10-5-2004 @ 09:49 PM by Pisky


Burke's peerage seem to be backing Kerry too ...

IF ROYAL genes have any influence, John Kerry looks destined to dethrone George W. Bush in November's US presidential election.

According to a theory its British proponents say has proved surprisingly accurate over the past century, the candidate with the bluest blood in his veins will win the White House.

In 2000 it was Bush. This time, it's Kerry. "Our research is not yet complete, but my bet is that Kerry has more royal connections and that he is more noble than President Bush," said Harold Brooks-Baker, publishing director of Burke's Peerage, a guide to the British aristocracy.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



Originally posted by KrazyIvan
kerry will win when hell freezes over!

I'm certain I saw Satan buying snowshoes last week



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reply posted on 10-5-2004 @ 09:49 PM by Flinx



Originally posted by Seekerof
Allah has shown Zogby the way, the truth, and the light.
In reality, the four reasons he gives amount to:
ABC
NBC
CBS
CNN

Gee look, Colonel even referenced a poll from CNN.
Poll numbers don't mean squat.
Kerry has no announced VP yet.
His economic plan amounts to a paper tiger.
His health insurance plan equates to an even greater National deficit.
Hasn't even been to convention yet.
And there is still another 6 months to the real polls...anything, for boths sides, can happen to influence.

Best of luck to Mr. Kerry, but counting on Zogby to assume that victory is assured is foolhardy, at best.



seekerof


Why do you like Bush so damn much Seeker? Seriously. Everytime someone posts something anti-Bush you're there to defend him. Not a flame, just a serious question.



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reply posted on 10-5-2004 @ 09:49 PM by KrazyJethro



Originally posted by ashley
www.journalnow.com...!localnews&s=103764550 9099

Bush needs another terror attack and it looks like him and his mossad buddies are working on it.

Dont think it will work though, just make him look like more of a failure.
There always is martial law as a last resort.


Ah, what speculation and the imagination will do for a fella.

That article is crap, pure and simple. It means nothing at this point.

Nor does it have anything to do with Bush, unless you like to daydream.



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reply posted on 10-5-2004 @ 09:54 PM by RedOctober90


It amazes me how anyone can take American politics seriously... I nearly get to the point of vomitting when I see the horrible acts these bastards do.. and how they play with other countries like they are toys.

Does it really matter who wins this election? You have one bastard VS another bastard... I wouldn't mind seeing a few of these guys.... disapear...... hmmm....

My main concern is the citizens of the US and foreign nations... not any government. The citizens come first. I am tired of seeing thousands of people die due to these guys and there corporation appeasing. It's sickening!



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reply posted on 10-5-2004 @ 10:35 PM by websurfer


music playing in background: Tribalistas: Ja Sei Namorar

Kerry's advantage over Bush
[size=5]"As president I will not be the last to know what's going on in my chain of command"[/size] John Kerry in response to the abuse suffered by Arab Prisoners

***This is rape and murder here
***Rumsfield refuses to resign, and surprisingly Bush wants him in office

see the all of Kerry's audio and video at www.johnkerry.com
also check out www.michaelmoore.com from previous threads, about the mosaic of bush(pic)[more than enough to oust him from office]

*** war in Iraq was and is pointless. Bush thanks the american soldiers who died there(There death's give reason that Bush is protecting US territory)[there death's could also keep him in office for another term]



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reply posted on 11-5-2004 @ 08:24 AM by Bout Time


But, it is Kerry's to lose.
Don't forget, even the most ardent Bush supporter or Bush Detractor is going to get tired of it all until the home stretch.
Others, like myself, who called a foul with the election theft & have been proven right on our predictions that the Labotomized Chimp would be the Nadir of Failure, have no signs of letting up.
Simply, if you're not mad at what they've done to our country, you're part of the problem.



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reply posted on 11-5-2004 @ 08:27 AM by Seekerof


You Democracks are in trouble BT.
Bush has survived how many supoosed scathings from the Democracks and with what effect in the polls?
Kerry's to lose my ass.


seekerof



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reply posted on 11-5-2004 @ 12:48 PM by Seekerof



Inside the numbers: Zogby's numbers

...big trouble in Little Kerryville...



seekerof



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