New World Order Being Taught In Schools! video, page 1
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Topic started on 30-7-2009 @ 01:21 AM by LeeannaHolland


Listen to what this kid has to say about the NWO, his textbook, and how the subject is treated at school.

I don't know what ATSers will think of this, not sure if already posted.

This kid is sure brave, whatever is going on.


reply posted on 30-7-2009 @ 02:02 AM by schrodingers dog
Argh ...

Come on folks ... no one likes a good conspiracy more than I do but are we really going to once more purposely confuse terminology to make a dubious point and re-enforce our beliefs upon a false premise?

New World Order in his textbook:

In international relations theory, the term "new world order" has been used to refer to a new period of history evidencing a dramatic change in world political thought and the balance of power. Despite various interpretations of this term, it is primarily associated with the notion of global governance only in the sense of new collective efforts to identify, understand, or address worldwide problems that go beyond the capacity of individual states to solve.


New World Order as you mean it:

In conspiracy theory, the term "New World Order" (the capital letters are distinguishing) refers to the advent of a cryptocratic or totalitarian one world government.


Please don't use NWO as a misnamed "catch all" conspiracy of the gaps notion. It dilutes the value of the intended meaning.

Now ... having said all that, kudos to the kid for his inquisitiveness and intelligence, he would make an awesome ATS member.


reply posted on 30-7-2009 @ 02:12 AM by eMachine
reply to post by schrodingers dog



Good points, Sdog. My perspective still is: They are teaching those kids what to think about political issues, rather than how to make sense of politics, reason for themselves, and come to their own conclusions.

I will not trust my kids' minds to a bunch of textbook writers and teachers who were probably all the people I disliked when I was going to school with them...

My kids are still not going.


reply posted on 30-7-2009 @ 02:37 AM by l_e_cox
reply to post by LeeannaHolland


I think this topic is important.

Since the concept of a "world government" has been publicly voiced, it has been sugar-coated and presented as very desirable. The concept and several of its corollaries have been pushed in schools for some time now. The breakthrough in schools came when psychology took over the training of teachers. There has been a persistent backlash against the "new" methods and the overt and covert messages that go with them. Some accuse the schools of destroying the intelligence, initiative, judgment, morals, and competence of our youth. Some think that is exactly what they were intended to do. What do the statistics say? I haven't looked at them recently, but last time I did conventional public schools were not doing too well. Many people think that conventional schooling is just part of the "plan."


reply posted on 30-7-2009 @ 02:57 AM by alienesque
Originally posted by schrodingers dog
Argh ...

Come on folks ... no one likes a good conspiracy more than I do but are we really going to once more purposely confuse terminology to make a dubious point and re-enforce our beliefs upon a false premise?

New World Order in his textbook:

In international relations theory, the term "new world order" has been used to refer to a new period of history evidencing a dramatic change in world political thought and the balance of power. Despite various interpretations of this term, it is primarily associated with the notion of global governance only in the sense of new collective efforts to identify, understand, or address worldwide problems that go beyond the capacity of individual states to solve.


New World Order as you mean it:

In conspiracy theory, the term "New World Order" (the capital letters are distinguishing) refers to the advent of a cryptocratic or totalitarian one world government.


Please don't use NWO as a misnamed "catch all" conspiracy of the gaps notion. It dilutes the value of the intended meaning.

Now ... having said all that, kudos to the kid for his inquisitiveness and intelligence, he would make an awesome ATS member.


hello

this is exactly the problem...

'new collective efforts to identify, understand, or address worldwide problems that go beyond the capacity of individual states to solve.'

how will this be done without global governance?..you yourself say that the problems are not solvable by the individual states.

i hear this argument very often and i honestly cant understand why people cant see the link...a world government doesnt automatically mean that individual countries wont exist...it simply means a global authority that has power over important areas of our day to day life...as in the EU..their power is growing every day...not many people have any insight and most people dont understand how they can influence any of the EUs decisions....this is intentional.

in a perfect world id welcome a world government....but i dont trust humans enough to accept and allow a small group of people gaining such positions of power.


reply posted on 30-7-2009 @ 03:15 AM by Janitor From Mars
reply to post by cloakndagger



I believe that public schools can be reformed but it's up to the community to work together to demand accountability within these schools, instead of giving up and sending their kids to private schools (which from my experience, are no better).

Homeschooling is a much more plausible idea and I'm more willing to support it now.

I lucked out on a quality public school education that trumped my experience at a private school. Without that education I would probably not even be able to speak well, read or do basic math.


reply posted on 30-7-2009 @ 03:35 AM by Faiol
Originally posted by schrodingers dog
Argh ...

Come on folks ... no one likes a good conspiracy more than I do but are we really going to once more purposely confuse terminology to make a dubious point and re-enforce our beliefs upon a false premise?

New World Order in his textbook:

In international relations theory, the term "new world order" has been used to refer to a new period of history evidencing a dramatic change in world political thought and the balance of power. Despite various interpretations of this term, it is primarily associated with the notion of global governance only in the sense of new collective efforts to identify, understand, or address worldwide problems that go beyond the capacity of individual states to solve.


New World Order as you mean it:

In conspiracy theory, the term "New World Order" (the capital letters are distinguishing) refers to the advent of a cryptocratic or totalitarian one world government.


Please don't use NWO as a misnamed "catch all" conspiracy of the gaps notion. It dilutes the value of the intended meaning.

Now ... having said all that, kudos to the kid for his inquisitiveness and intelligence, he would make an awesome ATS member.



Ys ... I think the kid was confused because of the same term .... good post!


reply posted on 30-7-2009 @ 05:20 AM by Rybo666
reply to post by alienesque



Absolutly right!! It will be a dark day for us when a single world government comes into power. Unfortunately it's inevitable. The thing is i can see leaders such as Kim jong il (or wotever his name is) and other powerful dictators taking a stand against this due to the fact that they (eventually) will not be in control. It's gonna be messed up and it saddens me to think that this will happen.


reply posted on 30-7-2009 @ 06:28 AM by CapsFan8
reply to post by schrodingers dog



I sort of agree, that in this case the kid's points aren't all that compelling, compared to others that could be attacked. But the premise is still valid.

The wording in that definition seems innocent enough. But look at the wording "Despite various interpretations of this term". It's another way of saying, don't listen to these ideas, they are dangerous and off-limits to you. Let us do the thinking and write the history books and interpret your reality for you. It's all part of the original goal of public education, to condition you for obedience in order to be a good worker bee for the corporate world.

I thought the camera thing was a better point. While it is a somewhat more legitimate excuse to ban phones because of the distraction in class, it is more suspicious that they specifically say no camera phones, as if they are trying to hide something.

I am only 21. I could see the radical and disturbing changes occurring in the schools at the time. The increase in rigidity, the dumbing down of material, the patronizing practices. They continue trend toward training you to get used to social control and a generally thoughtless existence.
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