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Topic started on 29-7-2009 @ 11:05 PM by Ex_MislTech
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The Family
I did not even know this group existed til recently.
I found out about them thru mundane sex scandal silliness.
Sex scandals of politicians in "The Family"
When you get to reading some of their concepts, it is like a WTF moment.
As reported by Andrea Mitchell and Jim Popkin for NBC News, Fellowship leader Doug Coe repeatedly urges a personal commitment to Jesus Christ that
he compares to the blind devotion that Adolf Hitler demanded from his followers.[19] Coe has stated "Hitler, Goebbels and Himmler were three men.
Think of the immense power these three men had, these nobodies from nowhere," and later in the same sermon: "Jesus said, ‘You have to put me
before other people. And you have to put me before yourself.' Hitler, that was the demand to be in the Nazi party. You have to put the Nazi party and
its objectives ahead of your own life and ahead of other people."[19] Doug Coe also refers to the Fellowship as the "Christian Mafia" and is on
record saying that he tries to make the group act like the Mafia because the more invisible you can make your organization, the more influence it will
have.[92]
This is all pretty much comon knowledge too apparently.
My thoughts are Good deeds are done in the light of day.
Although a goal of the Family is to influence politics and a large number of Senators and Representatives live in or are members of the
institution, the Family has long been a secretive organization which is not widely understood.[71][72] Concerned about growing publicity, Fellowship
Founder Abraham Vereide wrote a letter in 1966 declaring it time to “submerge the institutional image of [the Family].”[16] Former Republican
Senator William Armstrong has said the group has “made a fetish of being invisible."
Mr. Coe seems to be one hell of a motivator, he can do a lot in 24 hours.
According to a 1996, Washington Post review of Bad Boy: The Life and Politics of Lee Atwater, Atwater was introduced to Douglas Coe through Patty
Presock, Secretary to President Ronald Reagan on Friday, March 16, after a White House breakfast.[64] Eleven days later, Atwater arrived at the Cedars
to meet Doug Coe. "I've been in this city for many years now, and I never heard of you," he said. "Who are you, anyhow?"[64] Coe replied, "Well,
we have many mutual friends all over the city...."[64] Atwater was baptized as a Catholic the following day.[64]
I find this group to be a little more than weird.
President George H.W. Bush referred to Coe as "an ambassador of faith."[6]
The Fellowship has been criticized, however, for associating with dictators and human rights abusers such as Carlos Eugenio Vides Casanova of El
Salvador, Artur da Costa e Silva of Brazil, Gustavo Alvarez Martinez of Honduras, and President Suharto of Indonesia.[16]
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reply posted on 30-7-2009 @ 10:24 PM by Ex_MislTech
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reply to post by Ex_MislTech
I guess if I had posted something about football, some hot chic,
or astral awareness of gaia I'd have got some responses, lol.
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reply posted on 13-8-2009 @ 11:40 AM by siouxm
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I just downloaded the book
The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power
yesterday. I had never heard of this group before but figured there had to be SOMETHING about it here on ATS since it is perfect fodder for this
forum.
I hope more people learn about this group (The Family) and bring it out of it's covert hiding space and into a place where everyone can see who they
are and what they are doing.
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reply posted on 13-8-2009 @ 12:41 PM by jeasahtheseer
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Thats funny they refer to them as the Fellowship. There were some roleplaying games I played played in the 90s called Ultima and in one of them there
was a organization/religious group called that. Most players thought they based them on scientology, but maybe it was based on this. lol.
Anyways to stay on topic, interesting read. I'll post better comments when I read more..
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reply posted on 14-8-2009 @ 08:58 AM by yeahright
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Jeff Sharlet, author of The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at
the Heart of American Power was on The Daily Show last night. Very interesting and scary stuff. This is a book I'll have to add to my ever
growing list.
From the above link, quoted from Publisher's Weekly:
Checking in on a friend's brother at Ivenwald, a Washington-based fundamentalist group living communally in Arlington, Va., religion and
journalism scholar Sharlet finds a sect whose members refer to Manhattan's Ground Zero as "the ruins of secularism"; intrigued, Sharlet accepts on
a whim an invitation to stay at Ivenwald. He's shocked to find himself in the stronghold of a widespread "invisible" network, organized into cells
much like Ivenwald, and populated by elite, politically ambitious fundamentalists; Sharlet is present when a leader tells a dozen men living there,
"You guys are here to learn how to rule the world." As it turns out, the Family was established in 1935 to oppose FDR's New Deal and the spread of
trade unions; since then, it has organized well-attended weekly prayer meetings for members of Congress and annual National Prayer Breakfasts attended
by every president since Eisenhower. Further, the Family's international reach ("almost impossible to overstate") has "forged relationships
between the U.S. government and some of the most oppressive regimes in the world." In the years since his first encounter, Sharlet has done extensive
research, and his thorough account of the Family's life and times is a chilling expose.
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reply posted on 18-8-2009 @ 10:00 AM by Welfhard
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I've got this video link of Jeff Sharlet with Bill Maher.
www.dailymotion.com...
A quote from the interview:
"The normal rules don't apply, morality is for the little people."
- David Coe
This interview was on youtube but had to be taken down, Thecounterweight1 (youtube user) put it up on Dailymotion for me when I asked about it.
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reply posted on 24-8-2009 @ 01:28 AM by Donnie Darko
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Yup. They are definitely a, if not the, New World Order group.
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reply posted on 24-8-2009 @ 02:23 AM by Welfhard
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I highly doubt that they are 'the' New World Order group. The shadow govt is going to be a bit more shadow than these guys.
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reply posted on 25-8-2009 @ 09:00 PM by havaniceday
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Hi guys I just joined ATS because I got tired of trying to talk about things with people on Fark.com... This is my first post on Above Top Secret and
I think it's funny cause I'm pretty much just going to copy my post from fark I did earlier today about this.
It started around 1935, a little bit after the great depression, when alot of people thought Democracy was dead and Communism or Fascism were the only
options left. They didn't want to be red communists, of course, but fascism seemed allright, if they had supernatural justification for their fascist
beliefs. They became no longer interested in Democracy but in what they called "the age of minority control". Politicians and people of power
(because you have to have power before you can join) are considered "the new chosen" and Jesus's real message wasn't meant for everybody, just
God's special selected, and part of the real message of Jesus is that people in power are above morality. They have connections to fascist regimes
they've helped politically over the years, and they hold up as a "model for understanding Jesus" Stalin or Hitler... because, really, Jesus was a
"strong, powerful, influential man".
It's pretty much an "invisible" cult, whose members are some of the most politically powerful people in this country. Senator Sam Brownback from
Kansas, Congressman Zach Womp from Tennessee, Senator John Ensign from Nevada, Senator Jim Demint & Governor Mark Sanford from South Carolina (big
suprise), Congressman Chip Pickering from Mississippi, Congressman Bart Stupak from Michigan, Senator James Inhofe & Senator Tom Coburn from Oklahoma
are some of the current known members. Remember, these people think the fact that their organization is invisible gives them more effective means to
power.
Alot of that I took directly from the Coast to Coast am show the author of "The Family" was on 8-22.
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reply posted on 25-8-2009 @ 09:02 PM by havaniceday
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Oh also, Jeff Sharlet mentioned that when they first started, Doug Coe received alot of investment money from one of the Rockefellers.
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