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Military To Work With FEMA During Swine Flu Pandemic

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posted on Jul, 29 2009 @ 04:22 PM
Swine flu is a joke! Swine flu is the real deal! I'm not taking a vaccine!

All of these expressions of people....DOESN'T MATTER. It's not the point.

The point is the fear many have been trying repeatedly raise--it's an excuse for the government/military to impose more power over the citizenry. That's the real issue that needs to be debated.

More proof in the corner of conspiracy theorists asserting martial law by the military is the endgame:

According to a CNN report, the military will assist civilian authorities in the event of a significant swine flu outbreak in the U.S. this fall, stoking fears that the pandemic, which has claimed relatively few lives so far, will be used as an excuse to implement martial law and a mandatory vaccination program.

“The plan calls for military task forces to work in conjunction with the Federal Emergency Management Agency. There is no final decision on how the military effort would be manned, but one source said it would likely include personnel from all branches of the military,” states the report.

The proposal, which was drawn up by U.S. Northern Command’s Gen. Victor Renuart, is awaiting final approval from Defense Secretary Robert Gates. The first step would be to sign an “execution order” which would authorize the military to begin detailed planning on how to implement the proposal, before actual orders to deploy military personnel are given.

The amount of troops required or whether they would come from the active duty or the National Guard and Reserve forces has not yet been determined.

Northcom has been preparing for mass flu pandemics for years and indeed, Gen. Victor Renuart spoke of the threat of a flu pandemic emerging out of Mexico just weeks before it actually happened.

posted on Jul, 29 2009 @ 05:52 PM

posted on Jul, 29 2009 @ 08:39 PM
No one (except me) is replying because their double checking their BOB's and putting on their Rambo Uniforms.

Everyone ready?

posted on Jul, 29 2009 @ 09:03 PM
reply to post by MOFreemason

Edit to warn of explicit language at the end of the video.

[edit on 29 Jul 2009 by schrodingers dog]

posted on Jul, 29 2009 @ 10:14 PM

get's the blood pumping doesn't it

posted on Jul, 29 2009 @ 11:51 PM
I saw this big story splashed on the Fox news site this afternoon, but now looking for it on cnn and fox, the story us buried. WHY? Also, just after that was posted, there was a live breaking report from the CDC regarding the vaccines. That too is not easy to find at this point. WHY?

Checking and rechecking the BOB's? You're probably right.

I also wonder why there is no mention on

[edit on 7/29/09 by opal13]

posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 05:12 AM
reply to post by warrenb

Strong & powerful video!

As an European I just hope that all this ends well for you guys!

And I'm very curious about how your military will react when the SHTF?

Will most of them side with the people or against them? could it be like a 50/50 situation?

We're living in some crazy times right now for sure, aren't we?!

It's like the world has gone totally mental on all levels, and its leaders are more or less clinical insane!

Us Europeans, we're toast! - you are the last hope of mankind! - lead the way

posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 10:25 AM
I was going to post this until I did a search. Here's the actual CNN article (it looks like it's been updated though:

Civilian authorities would lead any relief efforts in the event of a major outbreak, the official said. The military, as they would for a natural disaster or other significant emergency situation, could provide support and fulfill any tasks that civilian authorities could not, such as air transport or testing of large numbers of viral samples from infected patients.

Or provide support for mass mandatory inoculations, forced quarantines, disarmament, etc.

I'm going to laugh when this fall/winter flies by and no one is dying except those who got the damn vaccine. Maybe laugh IS NOT the right word, but you know what I mean.

posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 05:16 PM

The U.S. military wants to establish regional teams of military personnel to assist civilian authorities in the event of a significant outbreak of the H1N1 virus this fall, according to Defense Department officials.

The proposal is awaiting final approval from Defense Secretary Robert Gates.

The officials would not be identified because the proposal from U.S. Northern Command's Gen. Victor Renuart has not been approved by the secretary.

The plan calls for military task forces to work in conjunction with the Federal Emergency Management Agency. There is no final decision on how the military effort would be manned, but one source said it would likely include personnel from all branches of the military.

posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 05:51 PM
Im not sure if you know this but the Navy was mixed up with the original out break here in the US and Mexico due to there influenza testing program ran in conjunction with CDC and Navy. The first child found ill here in the US was a US Navy child and was tested at the US navy medical hospital in San Deigo California. The same place a Navy Medical reasearch ship Had 50 sailors quartined due to swine flu outbreak.

So them talking about the military taking steps now to help with the pandemic means they have more than just testing and treating in mind.
Most of the above information came from or

[edit on 30-7-2009 by JBA2848]

posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 06:21 PM
It was just on msnbc Nightly News just 30 minutes ago too, but it was a little blurb, not really as in detail as yours.

posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 06:55 PM

Plans for “vaccine” bracelets to be forced on people at road blocks July 30, 2009 by birdflu666

Former Kansas State Trooper Greg Evensen reports that there are plans for road-blocks to force vaccines with military personnel putting bracelets on people. Those who refuse to take the steel band with a microchip will be put on a prison bus and taken to a quarantine camp.

Evensen also says he believes that many law enforcement officers will reject using this “Gestapo” approach on their fellow citizens, and will question the legitimacy of the orders of what looks like a bunch of criminals in federal government who appear to be seeking to retain their grip on power by setting up an apparatus of state terror, all too reminiscent of that if Nazi Germany where the inmates of concentration camps like Buchenwald were killed by injections in the heart.

Law enforcement officers anxious to restore law and order and arrest really dangerous criminals should look no further than at the people sitting in the top echelons of government, he hints.

Now we have become eaves-dropping, roadblock setting, door crashing, face grinding, arm breaking, pursuit driven bastards that have sold their asses to the government masters hell bent on establishing the TRUE reincarnation of the dreaded SS. That is NO overstatement. Note: There are significant numbers of officers at all levels that simply detest the forced training at FEMA centers, the requirements to stop Patriots and others simply because they “look” dangerous, and are exercising free speech statements on their vehicles. By whose ultimate authority does this take place? By whose ultimate judgment is it that it is necessary to harass INNOCENT drivers and families? The public sees this Gestapo mentality as far more of a danger than any stickers they put on their vehicles? Where are all these “faithful” enforcers of the law when it comes to confronting the unlawful, unconstitutional, unjustifiable, and unmerciful rotten bunch of usurpers, communists, atheists, deviated, immoral scungebuckets that are walking the halls of Congress, the White House, and the Federal Courts? How is it that the “get ‘em at any cost” morons at Homeland Security have created an environment in amerika that is an unwarranted intrusion of power in 186 other nations? And all of this is done in the name of safety and security. I guess that a majority of ignorant buffoons really do believe that Barack Sotero is the Messiah and he does hold the keys to socialist paradise in his hands.

So, once again, I implore those officers of the law who are in grave doubt about the legitimate authenticity of their superiors in any agency, to simply read the constitution, re-read their oath of office, seek out retired officers for guidance, and remember this very carefully—to brutalize citizens in the pursuit of order, is a guaranteed recipe for resistance. PLEASE do not pit yourselves (all 650,000 officers at all levels in the US) against a seething and angry populace who outnumber you 5000 to 1. Believe me; you want all of us working with you, not against you.

The only thought I have right now is how fast can I get a job, get a few bucks and buy a gun and all the ammo I can get, which probably isn't much.

I won't take the vaccine. I live in a city, though, which will most likely become a quarantine zone.

Life, it seems, is going to get real interesting in the next couple of weeks.

posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 07:59 PM

Concurrent Breakout Session #1
Mass Fatality Management Planning

Develop and maintain plans, procedures, programs, and systems
Develop and implement training and exercise programs
Direct fatality management tactical operations
Activate fatality management operations
Conduct morgue operationsManage ante-mortem data
Conduct final disposition

Concurrent Breakout Session #5
Law Enforcement Agencies
Protect police forces from falling ill & from being hurt in civildisturbances
Protect the delivery of vaccines & essential goods & services.
Manage a surge in crime & meet routine requests at the same time
Control & diffuse social unrest & public disorder
Isolate prisons & other facilities

Concurrent Breakout Session #6
First Responders: Fire Department

Protect fire department first responders from falling ill & from being hurt in civil disturbances
Continue to respond to routine fire outbreaks while responding to pandemic-related calls
Effectively transition into All-Hazards Incident Management Responders
Effectively undertake mass vaccinations
Enforce quarantines

Concurrent Breakout Session #9
Hospital and Emergency Medical Services

Prioritize the use of antivirals for the essential workforce
Anticipate interruptions in food, fuel and essentials supplychains & establish stockpiles
Plan for reduced response capacity due to mechanical failure & lack of personnel
Maintain continuous operations during a pandemic
Plan for 30-40 percent drop in labor force
Protect the emergency operations center

Just some things that caught my eye on this swine flu conference that is coming up.

Mass Fatality Management Planning

Enforce quarantines

Plan for 30-40 percent drop in labor force "Hospital and Emergency Medical "

Protect the emergency operations center

Protect police forces from falling ill & from being hurt in civildisturbances

Protect the delivery of vaccines & essential goods & services.

Manage a surge in crime & meet routine requests at the same time
Control & diffuse social unrest & public disorder

Sounds like there having a conference on preparing for war rather than swine flu. And im pretty sure these are some of the things FEMA wants the US military to help with.

[edit on 30-7-2009 by JBA2848]

posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 09:12 PM
I am thankful our military and FEMA are coordinating efforts should we have a catastrophic situation.

Does anyone remember when Katrina hit New Orleans? I do. FEMA and the military were criticized for doing too little too late. It was because of either poor or no planning.

FEMA and our Military is damned if they do something and damned if they don't.

I'm sure those women who were raped in the coliseum in New Orleans would have been very thankful to have had a military presence there to protect them.

There is no police department in any decent sized city in the USA that is large enough to protect it's citizens in a disaster.

The military will not even be able to take care of everybody.

Of course I am a supporter of the Armed Services. My dad was a WW2 veteran as well as all four of my husbands, three of which are dead now due to service related illness.

People need to get their heads out of the clouds and do the math and some deductive reasoning.

[edit on 30-7-2009 by dizziedame]

posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 09:41 PM


the virus mutates into a really virulent one that passes easily from person to person; then all of this planning will be put to good use. Every resource will be taxed to the limit in that situation.

I believe that this worse case scenario is what they are planning for. That is a good thing.

Unfortunately, the problem with having all this in place is that if the worse case scenario does not actually materialize there will be a strong desire amongst some groups to use it anyway!

That is the risk that we/you in the US face. Especially given that the vaccine is not fully tested.

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