Originally posted by DohBama
reply to post by Peruvianmonk
Whats not to love?
Lets have a look again at how wonderful this bill is, shall we?:
Pg 22 of the HC Bill mandates the Government will audit books of all employers that self insure.
Not starting off well mate, this says nothing about 'auditing the books' of businesses. Actually what it is talking about is studying the market as
(1) STUDY.—The Commissioner, in coordination with the Secretary of Health and Human Services and the Secretary of Labor, shall conduct a
study of the large group insured and self-insured
You can go ahead an read through the list of what the study will examine, I assure you it has nothing to do with 'auditing the books'...
Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill — a Government committee (good luck with that!) will decide what treatments/benefits a person may receive.
So do the insurance companies. They will make the rules regarding whether or not 'breast implants' and 'penis enlargement' are necessary or
cosmetic procedures. Show me any statement where it says they will be deciding what treatments you get on a case by case basis.
Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill — YOUR HEALTHCARE WILL BE RATIONED!
how did you come up with the notion that this text talks about LIMITING your care? It says NOTHING about limits, it talks about COST SHARING
(ie) how much oyu are going to have to pay out of pocket.
Lets look at the text itself shall we?
(A) ANNUAL LIMITATION.—The cost-sharing incurred under the essential benefits package with respect to an individual (or family) for a
year does not exceed the applicable level specified in subparagraph (B).
(B) APPLICABLE LEVEL.—The applicable level specified in this subparagraph for Y1 is $5,000 for an individual and $10,000 for a family. Such levels
shall be increased (rounded to the nearest $100) for each subsequent year by the annual percentage increase in the Consumer Price Index (United States
city average) applicable to such year.
So what this is saying is this: the MAX you will pay in one year is $5k for a individual and $10k for a family.
No need to panic.
Pg 42 of HC Bill — The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits for you.
No no no. Please READ the bill. This is getting rediculous. Where did you get that the HCC will choose your plan?
His/Her duties will be: (1) QUALIFIED PLAN STANDARDS, (2) HEALTH INSURANCE EXCHANGE, INDIVIDUAL AFFORDABILITY CREDITS...
I guess in a way they will develop PLANS just like insurance companies do today. so you may have to pay more for pregnancy coverage, as an example,
then not having it. but what did you expect that they were going to have no clarified plans of coverage and just do what ever you want for you? please
this critique is meaningless.
The other 28 elements will have to wait till I have more time. What is already apparent is your enormous lack of understanding of the actual text of
the elements cited. So much so that I can only assume you have not actually read them but that you took the list you provided form the source you
provided and did no 'fact checking' before subscribing to the links philosophy whole heartedly. Exactly the type of dogmatic slumber I cited to the
right-wing libertarian movement.
The source itself is a joke. To begin with the prominence of the article titled "Socialized Health Care: Who Suffers" is very telling seeing as how
this is NOT socialized medicine. In fact,
The original meaning [of socialized heath care] was confined to systems in which the government
operates health care facilities and employs health care professionals
is CLEARLY not what is happening today. The definition has changed as the right-wing fringe has cooped the phrase to become a derogatory attack on any
for of insurance that threatens their corporate masters.
Furthermore the author of the article you linked is clearly biased and nothing more than a partisan hack. From your link:
FamilySecurityMatters.org Contributing Editor Larry Schweikart is the author o 48 Liberal Lies About American History: (That You Probably
Learned in School) and A Patriot’s History of the United States: From Columbus’s Great Discovery to the War on Terror. He blogs at