Err, Orang.....OBL/Al Qaeda has threatened to destroy the house of Saud....you obviously don't know what you are talking about. Althou its true that
the house of saud is not the most benign, they have trully shown changes and a willingness to embrace the west, and even thou these changes are slow,
they have been trying. This is one of the reasons why OBL wants to destroy the house of saud, because of their ties to the western world, which
Islamic extremists don't want.
"Osama Bin Laden vs. the House of Saud
Q&A: TIME's Middle East bureau chief Scott MacLeod, in Riyadh, says this weeks bombings have opened a battle for the soul of Saudi Arabia, forcing
the royal family to rethink its response to Islamist extremism."
Excerpt taken from.
BTW I lived in Spain, and i remember many people were remembering fondly the times of Franco...but i can assure you, Bush is nothing like Franco was,
and Bush is not facist....
Also, here is a snip on some of the information that ties Saddam/Iraq to Al Qaeda...and Russia.....
"Frontpage Magazine: Welcome to Frontpage Interview, Mr. Pacepa. Let’s begin. As a former Romanian spy chief who used to take direct orders from the
Soviet KGB, you are obviously armed with a wealth of information. You have written about how the Soviets armed Hussein with WMDs, and also taught
him how to eliminate any trace of them. Can you talk a bit about this and tell us its connection to the “missing WMDs” in Iraq today?
Pacepa: Contemporary political memory seems to be conveniently afflicted with some kind of Alzheimer's disease. Not long ago, every Western leader,
starting with President Clinton, fumed against Saddam’s WMD. Now almost no one remembers that after General Hussein Kamel, Saddam’s son-in-law,
defected to Jordan in 1995, he helped us find “more than one hundred metal trunks and boxes” containing documentation “dealing with all categories of
weapons, including nuclear.” He also aided UNSCOM to fish out of the Tigris River high-grade missile components prohibited to Iraq. That was exactly
what my old Soviet-made “Sărindar” plan stated he should do in case of emergency: destroy the weapons, hide the equipment, and preserve the
documentation. No wonder Saddam hastened to lure Kamel back to Iraq, where three days later he was killed together with over 40 of his relatives in
what the Baghdad official press described as a “spontaneous administration of tribal justice.” Once that was done, Saddam slammed the door shut to any
FP: It is undeniable, therefore, that Saddam had WMDs, right?
Pacepa: In the early 1970s, the Kremlin established a “socialist division of labor” for persuading the governments of Iraq and Libya to join the
terrorist war against the US. KGB chairman Yury Andropov (who would later become the leader of the Soviet Union), told me that either of those two
countries could inflict more damage on the Americans than could the Red Brigades, the Baader-Meinhof group and all other terrorist organizations taken
together. The governments of those Arab countries, Andropov explained, not only had inexhaustible financial resources (read: oil), but they also had
huge intelligence services that were being run by “our razvedka advisers” and could extend their tentacles to every corner of the earth. There was one
major danger, though: by raising terrorism to the state level we risked American reprisal. Washington would never dispatch its airplanes and rockets
to exterminate the Baader-Meinhof, but it might well deploy them to destroy a terrorist state. We therefore were also tasked to provide those
countries secretly with weapons of mass destruction, because Andropov concluded that the Yankees would never attack a country that could retaliate
with such deadly weapons.
Libya was Romania’s main client in that socialist division of labor, because of Ceausescu’s close association with Colonel Muammar Gaddafi. Moscow
kept Iraq. Andropov told me that, if our Iraq and Libyan experiment proved successful, the same strategy would be extended to Syria. Recently, Libya’s
Gaddafi admitted to having WMD, and the CIA inspectors found them. Why should we believe that the almighty Soviet Union, which had proliferated WMD
all over the world, was not able to do the same thing in Iraq? Every piece of armament Iraq had came from the former Soviet Union—from the Katyusha
launchers to the T72 tanks, BMP-1 fighting vehicles and MiG fighter planes. In the spring of 2002, just a couple of weeks after Russia took its
place at the NATO table, President Putin and his ex-KGB officers who are now running Russia concluded another $40 billion trade deal with Saddam
Hussein’s tyrannical regime in Iraq. That was not for grain or beans—Russia has to import them from elsewhere.
Excerpts taken from.
If you want to read more information on this, here is the original link that i posted this information on.
[Edited on 17-5-2004 by Muaddib]