First Osama, then Saddam and now Bush Kills Americans and Innocent People

Bush acountable for what, and dont go into anti war drivel...
list me some SPECIFIC, PROVABLE, and ACTIONABLE (impeachable) actions.

Heck, Bush could and can send US armed forces anywhere in the world for 90 days as is the authority of the Office he holds. He doesnt need permission.

Hmm didnt Congress sign an open ended deal that basically gives the administration the ok AND the $$$ to wage war? They made it nice and vauge too, so that there was leeway in what the Presidential options could be.

Bush is accountable for making a decision as Commander in Chief....but
Judging the war wrong before duriung or after the conflict and then trying to apply that to the President is a far far streatch of reason unless there is something tangible to nail him on.

If there was something tangible to act against Bush on
WHY HAVENT HIS OPPONENTS ALREADY CAPITALIZED ON THIS?

Simple, they dont got whats its gonna take to get him.

Err, Orang.....OBL/Al Qaeda has threatened to destroy the house of Saud....you obviously don't know what you are talking about. Althou its true that the house of saud is not the most benign, they have trully shown changes and a willingness to embrace the west, and even thou these changes are slow, they have been trying. This is one of the reasons why OBL wants to destroy the house of saud, because of their ties to the western world, which Islamic extremists don't want.

"Osama Bin Laden vs. the House of Saud
Q&A: TIME's Middle East bureau chief Scott MacLeod, in Riyadh, says this weeks bombings have opened a battle for the soul of Saudi Arabia, forcing the royal family to rethink its response to Islamist extremism."

Excerpt taken from.
www.time.com...

BTW I lived in Spain, and i remember many people were remembering fondly the times of Franco...but i can assure you, Bush is nothing like Franco was, and Bush is not facist....

Also, here is a snip on some of the information that ties Saddam/Iraq to Al Qaeda...and Russia.....

"Frontpage Magazine: Welcome to Frontpage Interview, Mr. Pacepa. Let�s begin. As a former Romanian spy chief who used to take direct orders from the Soviet KGB, you are obviously armed with a wealth of information. You have written about how the Soviets armed Hussein with WMDs, and also taught him how to eliminate any trace of them. Can you talk a bit about this and tell us its connection to the �missing WMDs� in Iraq today?


Pacepa: Contemporary political memory seems to be conveniently afflicted with some kind of Alzheimer's disease. Not long ago, every Western leader, starting with President Clinton, fumed against Saddam�s WMD. Now almost no one remembers that after General Hussein Kamel, Saddam�s son-in-law, defected to Jordan in 1995, he helped us find �more than one hundred metal trunks and boxes� containing documentation �dealing with all categories of weapons, including nuclear.� He also aided UNSCOM to fish out of the Tigris River high-grade missile components prohibited to Iraq. That was exactly what my old Soviet-made �S�rindar� plan stated he should do in case of emergency: destroy the weapons, hide the equipment, and preserve the documentation. No wonder Saddam hastened to lure Kamel back to Iraq, where three days later he was killed together with over 40 of his relatives in what the Baghdad official press described as a �spontaneous administration of tribal justice.� Once that was done, Saddam slammed the door shut to any UNSCOM inspection.

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FP: It is undeniable, therefore, that Saddam had WMDs, right?


Pacepa: In the early 1970s, the Kremlin established a �socialist division of labor� for persuading the governments of Iraq and Libya to join the terrorist war against the US. KGB chairman Yury Andropov (who would later become the leader of the Soviet Union), told me that either of those two countries could inflict more damage on the Americans than could the Red Brigades, the Baader-Meinhof group and all other terrorist organizations taken together. The governments of those Arab countries, Andropov explained, not only had inexhaustible financial resources (read: oil), but they also had huge intelligence services that were being run by �our razvedka advisers� and could extend their tentacles to every corner of the earth. There was one major danger, though: by raising terrorism to the state level we risked American reprisal. Washington would never dispatch its airplanes and rockets to exterminate the Baader-Meinhof, but it might well deploy them to destroy a terrorist state. We therefore were also tasked to provide those countries secretly with weapons of mass destruction, because Andropov concluded that the Yankees would never attack a country that could retaliate with such deadly weapons.


Libya was Romania�s main client in that socialist division of labor, because of Ceausescu�s close association with Colonel Muammar Gaddafi. Moscow kept Iraq. Andropov told me that, if our Iraq and Libyan experiment proved successful, the same strategy would be extended to Syria. Recently, Libya�s Gaddafi admitted to having WMD, and the CIA inspectors found them. Why should we believe that the almighty Soviet Union, which had proliferated WMD all over the world, was not able to do the same thing in Iraq? Every piece of armament Iraq had came from the former Soviet Union�from the Katyusha launchers to the T72 tanks, BMP-1 fighting vehicles and MiG fighter planes. In the spring of 2002, just a couple of weeks after Russia took its place at the NATO table, President Putin and his ex-KGB officers who are now running Russia concluded another $40 billion trade deal with Saddam Hussein�s tyrannical regime in Iraq. That was not for grain or beans�Russia has to import them from elsewhere. "

Excerpts taken from.

www.frontpagemag.com...

If you want to read more information on this, here is the original link that i posted this information on.
www.abovetopsecret.com...


[Edited on 17-5-2004 by Muaddib]

To claim that one joined for the training or educational benefits and not the war/military aspect is frightening, to say the least, but certainly not an excuse or cover.



seekerof

[Edited on 10-5-2004 by Seekerof]

You would never guess how many people are in the military not because they want to be but because they have no choice. People who cant find a job, hold a job etc. There are an extremely large amount of people who join the military for getting money for college. The ad programs for the military stay "Get money for college"

It's an unfortunate thing I agree but there are tons of people who joined to get that money and that's the only reason. Belive it or not it's true.

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