Originally posted by Mr No One
Funny, there are posts on this site which say that time-travel is immpossible past 2012 and that "gifted" people cannot see a future past 2012. In the interview with Gordon-Michael Scallion he claims that 2012 is the year the Earth will complete a geo-physical poel shift. I wonder if there is some etheric connection or if the real truth of it all is someone once said 2012 was the end of the Mayan calender and now everyone is throwing their 2 cents as to what that means.

One source says that knowledge will spread forth. People will know about "psi", "ufo's" etc. I don't know, i believe that more, but that's a super super really big if.

Originally posted by Zoso
general opinions? is this a taboo subject, proven to be a fantasy money-maker for the mystical sick? what of this date is real? what does it mean to you? what will fall out of the sky?

If your really intrested then I'll help you out.
First, the Earth will never ever get destroyed.
Second, life on Earth for those critters known as humans will drastically change..

Forget about the Bible for a moment. The reason why 2012 is such an intresting date is because there are many other sources talking about 2012. My favorite one is the writtings of the Mayas, Aztecs, Incas, Olmecs, Toltecs, who all say "the gods" will come back to earth from the sky in the year 2012. Actually their calender is different, but when the dates are translated to our western calender, it points to the year 2012 on our calender.

Read "When Time Began" by Zecharia Sitchen for more details. In that book he goes into graphic detail about the civilizations I mentioned. And their calender, which modern scientists call the "Longcount Calender".

Next, you have the NY Times, March 16, 2004 issue, on the front page, taking about how a new planet has appered in our solar system. All other planets move in a rough circle or oval, around our sun. This new planet is moving in a straight line traveling to our planet Earth. Guess what year its due to arrive?

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Ok, so far we know that various ideas of what might happen are "the end of the world": possibly the end of the world not, but the end of the world as we know it meaning there is going to be some type of change, others believe it will be just simply the end of the world period. Then theres aliens showing themselves to the human race and giving us information about everything we dont currently know (or that we suspect but dont know for sure). Also, there is the pole shift, time warp and others i fail to remember.

The reasons to these ideas seems to always come down to the mayan calendar! We (humans) are seeking an answer to their "unusual" ending of such (the calendar). What this seems to prove is that we can only guess/speculate/hypothesize and that nothing is proof/for sure.

All that i've said so far is a review: now something from myself personaly, i ask that those who dont believe any of it or parts of it to please not judge those who are seeking the answer :T as so many people are judgefull.

Now i continue with the conclusion of this post, The only true thing we can do, is wait to see what does happen! I think it shall be rather curious and exciting for us all to see who's right, wrong and if anyone is at all!

P.S. (something from myself again) i personally have my own personal belief as to what is going to happen, but i know theres at least a 50% chance im wrong and so i take everything with a grain of salt.

the mayan and many other acient civilizations speak of a planet called Nibiru or Murduk. It has an oliptical orbit around the sun.Takes 3600 years to make one revolution around the sun.We were genetically hybrid from the neandertals to do the labor of the Niambrians.Mining gold in the nile valley to somehow sistain the atmosphere on there planet.Thats why we have such a fatiation with gold today.When the planet comes by I'ts gravitational pull on our planet will cause pollshifts.Land masses will rise and fall.Thats where Atlantis went.The planet is know visible in the morning sky. Thats why we're experiencing wierd weather.It is only going to get worse as the planet gets closer.All sounds like crap,but i hate to say It's true. The bible refers to this planet as WORMWOOD.The great terror king from the sky.After the climate change,the KNO.Will go into effect.

I have no doubt... and I am the return of Jesus Christ... by the way, we like Gold because it is a very rare metal, and very pretty... we aren't the only animal on the planet Earth that is attracted to Gold either! Research, research... don't speculate and throw out brain-dead ideas... We don't like rocks because they are everywhere! Rare things are more expensive... and more eye catching.

2012 the Z08 Corvette will come out










but seriously, as far as i can tell anyone who has any dates is FULL of it
no humans with modern technology have been around long enough to say "this happens ever blah blah years", sure they can look at the ground, in the core, but its all THEORY about what happened thousands of years ago.. becuase there is no proof, and myself i dont feel like having faith in DOOM lol

the World will end whenever the comet we dont see slams into us before we have a chance to react, remember only 10% of our sky is being watched at any one point in time, ...

and of course religion says Satan will rise and kill us, not city sized comets, cuz that just wouldnt make any sense

You know those mayan people kinda sorta died out so maybe thats why they just quit doing dates in 2012. and also this sounds sorta like "omg! the end of the worlds gonna be in the year 2000 omg omg omg!" there were people makin such a huge big deal about it and guess what?! nothin happened! its gonna be the same with 2012. It's been the same at the beginning of almost every century, and a bunch of other dates. Seventh-Day Adventists (no offense to anyone that is one of course) back in the 1800s predicted the end like 3 times, gathered on top of a mountain and waited for nothin. It's the same with 2012. the mayans just happened to quit doin dates, and everyone's gonna freak out for nuthin!

oh yeah another thing, the mayans kinda sorta ya know went extinct so maybe they had just completed 2012 when they started to die off or somethin. i dont remember hearin anything about a planet headin straight for the sun, besides hows that possible? what's his face's one physics law (learned it in high school sometime) says that the rotation around the sun is ecliptical. so its not like possible to have an orbit thats like a straight line i dont think. but yeah

1800s: aaah world's gonna end......nope, still here

1988: aaah world's gonna end......still here

2000: aaah world's gonna end.......nope yet again still here

2012: aaah world's gonna end........i seriously doubt it, and if it does, i'll be sure to get a front row seat

I checking out my calendar and it ends on December 31, 2006. I guess that means the world will end then.

better not speak to loudly, half the population will be in underground bunkers by july

Originally posted by PennKen2009
better not speak to loudly, half the population will be in underground bunkers by july

I will be at a higher elevation at least, and hopefully not on top of an active volcano.

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Originally posted by Zoso
general opinions? is this a taboo subject, proven to be a fantasy money-maker for the mystical sick? what of this date is real? what does it mean to you? what will fall out of the sky?

If i remember correct, it is scientificly proven that on the 21st day of December 2012, all the planets plus the sun and moon will align in the centre of the galaxy.

I dont know how it will affect Earth, maybe the gravity of the surroundings affects us, or maybe it will trigger our DNA so it will restore to the original 12 strings instead of the 2 we have now..im not an expert on these things but i do know about the alignment on that day, scientists have said and proven it.

Look on the bright side

If the world does end on that day you wont have to bother doing any christmas shopping.



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Originally posted by ZUFFI
In any case if all these old prophecies were still true (ie same railway track) then you would all probably be dead already because both Nostradamas and the Hopi indians predicted a major meteor impact for the mid 90s. It came close but narrowly missed the earth in April 1996 - reason being because humanity has changed its destiny.

Could you please provide links to Nostradamus and the Hopi prophecies you're referring to? As far as I know, Nostradamus predicted the end of the world somewhere in the late 3rd millenium and the Hopi's never predicted any asteroids or meteors. The one you linked to missed us by a quarter million miles.

there's a really good book to check out called "the mayan prophecies" .
and as stated earlier in this thread, it is about sun cycles and 'change'.
it's a very fascinating read and not just "lore of old". the mayan calendar ends dec. 2012, and from what i remember reading is "change" is to be expected. no end of world scenario, etc.

it's a great read with a boat-load of hard science about the sun cycles.
check it out.
-b