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Gwen Olsen: 14 Years a Pharma Rep & What She Has to Say

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posted on Jul, 28 2009 @ 02:53 PM
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I would like to introduce Gwen Olsen to ATS. I did a search and was rather astounded that her name appeared nowhere here on the site, so I think it's about time we all heard her story:










After watching these, it is so evident that we have a problem. A BIG problem.

Please respond with any stories that confirm or refute (I suspect not many on that latter) what Gwen offers. And any other discussion you want to bring up.

EDIT to delete a dup. vid...

[edit on 7/28/2009 by Amaterasu]




posted on Jul, 28 2009 @ 03:28 PM
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Thank you for posting this. I've never heard of her before and generally try to avoid medications as much as possible. But I have family that take them, and it's nice to have something this logical to send them.

I actually knew a guy who worked for a drug company for a while. He told us never to take vaccines (he didn't specifically explain why, but I didn't need to ask as every flu shot I've ever had has given me the flu) and he also told us that the people he worked with constantly complained that people were too healthy. lol



posted on Jul, 28 2009 @ 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by AmethystSD
Thank you for posting this. I've never heard of her before and generally try to avoid medications as much as possible. But I have family that take them, and it's nice to have something this logical to send them.

I actually knew a guy who worked for a drug company for a while. He told us never to take vaccines (he didn't specifically explain why, but I didn't need to ask as every flu shot I've ever had has given me the flu) and he also told us that the people he worked with constantly complained that people were too healthy. lol


Thank you for your response. I am thrilled to offer something to help convince your friends and family that there is just something very evil in the Pharma industry.

A friend of mine got epilepsy from taking Wellbutrin, and he was not told that he might lose his drivers license, or, should he have a seizure in a car and kill someone, that he would be tried for vihicular manslaughter or that the risk of seizure is present the entire course of the drug.

Fortunately, he did not seize in a car, but he is now on a crusade to get Glaxo Smith Klein to label Wellbutrin (Zyban) "Do Not Drive." As it stands now, they don't LEGALLY have to tell you anything but "may cause seizure" and "Do not drive until you know how this medication will effect you."

And since the risk of seizure is present throughout, and until you actually have a seizure, you cannot know how the drug will effect you... The label should just prohibit driving.

On top of that... Right now there are millions of us driving around on these drugs which could cause a seizure at any time... So we're ALL at risk.



posted on Jul, 28 2009 @ 05:12 PM
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Wow. I expected more response than this...

I sure wish I could post to several areas of interest. Maybe a mod could see a better place to move this to?



posted on Jul, 29 2009 @ 01:22 PM
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reply to post by Amaterasu
 


Yeah, this forum doesn't get the attention it deserves. That's for sure.


Unfortunately, members of this site care more about "I'm an Alien" threads than informative threads, such as this, of which can have a direct impact on their lives.

Nice videos. S&F!

Here's a few related threads: www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Keep an eye out for a similar article from the press corps and ATSnews.


-Dev



posted on Jul, 29 2009 @ 01:56 PM
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reply to post by Amaterasu
 

Hi Amaterasu and all.

VERY useful videos.

One thing that you, Amaterasu and OPs like you did to me is:
to show me that MS#### lie. [ Main Stream #### ],
MSPharma lie,
MSPetrol lie,
MSMedia lie, as we all know it,
MSBig-banks lie.
MSArmament lie,
MSThat I forgot, lie. . . B-)
MSMedecine lie,
. . .

Blue skies.



posted on Jul, 29 2009 @ 02:36 PM
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reply to post by DevolutionEvolvd
 


Maybe I should have just put it in "General Conspiracies..."

I hope a mod moves it, eh? [smile]



posted on Jul, 29 2009 @ 02:36 PM
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You might want to post your thread to the recent one; I think I'm mentally ill ( or whatever)

I've been on SSDI and have had my own experience with some nasty prescriptions. Some of which I actually believe would have killed me, even though I was put on disability for a suicide attempt


It's like: " Here, let me prescribe you something to help you with that."


........


I like her, regardless of her plugging her book. Kinda reminds me of: Mein Kampf and Adolf Hitler in a weird way. Hitler was said to be a prescription junkie/nutjob who also halucinated etc.

Not saying she's a nutjob, but to have worked for these white collar criminals, I'm really surprised she's still alive.

The problem I have with her new business; is that these health food stores and herbal remedies are also criminals in their own right. The costs are typically way too expensive for us regular folk and insurance won't pay for those. Many of which are also drugs.


BUT, I haven't read her book, so, it's not fair to say she's now working for them. But I am suspicious.

Thing is, most people who break down are under stress like work animals and zoo animals.

Vacations are usually too short and can even be just as stressful.

Our system, especially in the U.S. is messed up. Other countries have longer vacations. Not sure if that's working though.

I tried the halcion. One pill didn't seem to do much, so, I took two........and.. " WHAM! I would hit the pillow hard. I was unhappy when these ran out.


I found out these weren't available for me anymore. I guess that was a good thing.



posted on Jul, 29 2009 @ 02:38 PM
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GREAT FIND, STAR AND FLAG! WATCHING NOW COMMENT LATER.


Upon closer review, I believe this "GWEN" character to be a traitor.

There is no way someone like this could be a part of Big Pharma, she appears to have a conscience. Nothing to see here, move along.

/sarcasm

[edit on 29-7-2009 by king9072]



posted on Jul, 29 2009 @ 02:38 PM
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Originally posted by C-JEAN
reply to post by Amaterasu
 

Hi Amaterasu and all.

VERY useful videos.

One thing that you, Amaterasu and OPs like you did to me is:
to show me that MS#### lie. [ Main Stream #### ],
MSPharma lie,
MSPetrol lie,
MSMedia lie, as we all know it,
MSBig-banks lie.
MSArmament lie,
MSThat I forgot, lie. . . B-)
MSMedecine lie,
. . .

Blue skies.


C-JEAN,

I am so glad to have been a part of that.

If you want a solution... I offer the ideas in a "fictional" story. The book (short read) is offered freely here:

files.abovetopsecret.com...

I would be honored if you would read it... [smile]



posted on Jul, 29 2009 @ 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by aleon1018
You might want to post your thread to the recent one; I think I'm mentally ill ( or whatever)


I could surely do that. Or at least a pointer back here, eh?


I like her, regardless of her plugging her book. Kinda reminds me of: Mein Kampf and Adolf Hitler in a weird way. Hitler was said to be a prescription junkie/nutjob who also halucinated etc.

Not saying she's a nutjob, but to have worked for these white collar criminals, I'm really surprised she's still alive.

The problem I have with her new business; is that these health food stores and herbal remedies are also criminals in their own right. The costs are typically way too expensive for us regular folk and insurance won't pay for those. Many of which are also drugs.


I might point out that she was very low-key in "promoting" her book - at least I thought so. She mentions it in passing, really. Not like a big snowjob effort.

Also, the costs of natural remedies are, in some places, inflated, I grant you that, but most of the truly organic products ARE higher in cost to produce (due to added time and effort to produce the quality, for example), and you surely can't fault the natural remedy folks for what insurance will and will not pay for. That is because the insurance companies are in bed with Big Pharma with a give-and-take between them - they are all Big Corporate Business, after all. They WANT us sick, just not TOO sick.

I suspect that Gwen's heart is in the right place.


BUT, I haven't read her book, so, it's not fair to say she's now working for them. But I am suspicious.


And I'm not, so much. Though I haven't read her book either, I am led to believe that it basically contains what she presents here, along with the story of her neice who was put on one of these drugs and poured gasoline over herself, lit herself afire, and thereby killed herself.

I think Gwen is the real deal.


Thing is, most people who break down are under stress like work animals and zoo animals.


And I have a solution for that... The ideas are in MY book, linked in my sig. (Sorry to plug, but at least my book is free! [smile])


Vacations are usually too short and can even be just as stressful.


Life itself can be a vacation... (See my book... [grin])


Our system, especially in the U.S. is messed up. Other countries have longer vacations. Not sure if that's working though.


It works marginally better... But I have a solution... Yeah, yeah. My book...


I tried the halcion. One pill didn't seem to do much, so, I took two........and.. " WHAM! I would hit the pillow hard. I was unhappy when these ran out.


I found out these weren't available for me anymore. I guess that was a good thing.


A very good thing, yes. All this is poison.



posted on Jul, 29 2009 @ 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by king9072
GREAT FIND, STAR AND FLAG! WATCHING NOW COMMENT LATER.


Upon closer review, I believe this "GWEN" character to be a traitor.

There is no way someone like this could be a part of Big Pharma, she appears to have a conscience. Nothing to see here, move along.

[edit on 29-7-2009 by king9072]


Hmmm... Why do you say this. Please elaborate.

?????

EDIT: Or am I missing a tongue in cheek?

[edit on 7/29/2009 by Amaterasu]



posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 10:30 AM
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Um, I must be missing something here. Do people actually take medications and don't think that there could possibly be side effects? Every drug commercial on TV usually has a long laundry list of negative outcomes. And those mostly for something like a blood condition or to get a errection.

This women sold psychiatric drugs that are suppose to effect the brain chemistry. And she shocked that drugs had some side effects. Did she think she was selling the golden pill in which everybody gets cured and there are no side effects?

Every medication has risk.

(1996): "Each year, use of NSAIDs (Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs) accounts for an estimated 7,600 deaths and 76,000 hospitalizations in the United States." (NSAIDs include aspirin, ibuprofen, naproxen, diclofenac, ketoprofen, and tiaprofenic acid.)
Should we pull aspirin from the shelves because it killed people?

People need to realize that in the clinical stage of development of a drug you don't have a endless supply of human guinea pigs. You try and get all the possible data you can, which includes side effects, drugs you don't want to combine it with, and any other adverse reaction. But you only have a limited number of test subjects. Drugs are not prefect. But they do help the majority, if they didn't people will not be taking them, because they wouldn't work.

Everyone should know that taking ANY medication involves risk. Doctors and Pharmaceutical companies are not out there to try and create expensive lawsuits for themselves.



posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 12:04 PM
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Patients shouldn't be made to feel that they have to take something harmful to get well. There's always other alternatives to some of these medications. Long term disability and a drastic change in diet is just one. Stress has a way of breaking down a persons defense system.

I've been told that if I didn't take my medications, that I might be labelled as non-compliant and could lose my SSDI.

The pharmecutical companies also abuse the medicare system by charging unnecessarily high prices. This is basically greed for them and their stock holders.

No amount of excuses on their behalf will change my mind, .........unless I've been medicated and can no longer think for myself.

There's always the threats they use.



posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 12:35 PM
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Here in the uk big pharma and doctors have us by the balls.I decided to ask my doctor if i could stop taking my medications for a few months(which were not helping) so i could try some natural alternatives to see how that went.Anyway,i got threatened to be taken in to a psych ward if i stopped taking them and tried a natural alternative for a while...so im still on them.I was quite shocked when they said they would forcefully put me in a psych ward for not taking medication and nothing to do with my mental health,they seemed to make the decision for me that me deciding not wanting to take them was a result of my mental health
Can't do anything about it either as they have all the power.



posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 12:47 PM
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It would seem that many will pick up their prescriptions, but not even take them. I have to wonder how many people are actually checked through blood tests or otherwise, to see if they'tre still taking their meds.

My occasional visits with therapist or psychiatrist, may actually be looking for any tell-tale signs I'm still on them, such as the side effects; weight gain....drooling etc.


I had gained around 40 lbs on my last medication and probably acted as bad or as worse mentally as I had before that. I basically compared the side effects to down syndrome......and terminal illness.

[edit on 30-7-2009 by aleon1018]



posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 12:54 PM
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Awesome find!!!
Thank you.



posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 01:04 PM
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I had weight gain,but not as bad as alot of people.The worst thing was auditory hallucinations.Anyway,the point is i find that many of these doctors are unknowingly being nothing more than pimps for big pharma and the legislation is in place for people who may wish to stop taking them.Like forcefully putting you in a psych ward...which i personally find appalling.

[edit on 30-7-2009 by Solomons]



posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by aleon1018
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The pharmecutical companies also abuse the medicare system by charging unnecessarily high prices. This is basically greed for them and their stock holders.

A drug patent only last 20 years. It begins when it is just a compound. It can take somewhere between 10-15 years (sometimes longer) for that compound to reach the commercial level. So a pharmaceutical company may only have a handful of years to make a profit off their drug. Before generic drugs can be available. That is why drugs are expensive. Without charging large sums we wouldn't have drug companies. That's just how it goes.



posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 02:42 PM
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More Lobbyists Than Congress Members - PhRMA pours $40 Mil into crafting health bill
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Healthcare industry spending $1.4 million - a day - on lobbyists
www.abovetopsecret.com...


These 2 articles should be clear enough that something is stinky in DC

Money talks, greases palms and opens doors



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