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Obama. What do you think so far?


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Topic started on 28-7-2009 @ 03:11 AM by AngelHeart


Obama. Yes, the first black president. But to jump over all the racial implications, and to go straight to the matter: Is he really what this country needs right now? I believe his intentions are good. But his method of displaying leadership is rather lacking. His neutrality to the Iranian election has cost him a few believers. I understand it was a political decision, but the American people in this time of economic depression needs..."The Decider." It comes a time when a leader is not there at the right moment. Bush pushed Iran into his "Axis of Evil" speech, when at the time it was Khatami, a reformer, trying to bring his people out of the dark ages. There is a thought that what bush did, allowed Amadinejad's victory to be swift because the western oppression of it's capitalist ideals. His speeches would have been more detrimental in this time of need had Iran had him as president instead.

BUT!

Now we have a president who supposedly IS for the regular Joe.

Yet he has not passionately stood on his OWN ground to speak his OWN mind, on how things should be. He is young and inexperienced and perhaps a little naive, but if one is to take the top office of America his ideals should be made SPECIFIC. And not without detail, which his policies have been sorely lacking.

There are philosophical ideals, and there are constructive plans. Which from what I've seen he has only given the former. At this time of economic crises, can he mend the wounds before it gets worse? Before it was the housing crises, next I predict, the credit card companies are going to start to fail. He needs to take a stance as a complete, an utter leader. That is if only Congress will listen. So far he has been too lenient in his prison of seeing both sides. Reagan controlled democratic congress because of his prowess as the master orator, does not Obama have that same power? He must muster his forces within his own CABINET, mind you, to have the American people understand that he has, in fact, a plan! Not street corner philosophy, just a DETAILED PLAN.

What are you thoughts?



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reply posted on 28-7-2009 @ 03:42 AM by rangersdad


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Like the song said, "that don't impress me much." in regards to Obama so far.



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reply posted on 28-7-2009 @ 04:10 AM by SLAYER69


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"Obama. What do you think so far?"


Honestly...

I'm on the fence. Somethings he has said and done I completely agree with while others I just cringe! I cant be any more honest than that. For the record I didn't vote for him nor McPain.



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reply posted on 28-7-2009 @ 04:15 AM by ReelView





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reply posted on 28-7-2009 @ 04:19 AM by contemplator


He's been handed a bucket of sh^%$! by the repubs and they want him to make diamonds out of it. He can't, no one can so now no one listens to anything he says. It's basically just repubs and media trying to catch him slipping up then they talk about that non stop. My prediction tomorrow is that the first dog will poop on the lawn and Obama will forget to collect it. This will be a national scandal that fox news runs with 24x7 for the next 3 days. USA makes me sick. Everyone deserves what they are about to get. I hate to say it but it's the truth.



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reply posted on 28-7-2009 @ 04:28 AM by Republican08


He's as much the first black president as he is another white president.

50/50 Black/White.

Although, if we just screw MLK in his grave, we can just judge him by his skin, and not his content.

I honestly, detested him, but things economically seem to be looking up, so i'm kinda flaberghasted.or however you spell it.

I don't know, i'd of said a month ago kick him out immediately, but right now, i'd say give him another month, we'll see how it goes.



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reply posted on 28-7-2009 @ 04:56 AM by kettlebellysmith


Things are looking up economically, but Obama has nothing to do with that. The market corrects itself. The economy will climb out of this hole, just as it has in the past. (I would still put some money in precious metals.)
In my opinion, Obama showed himself to be racisist when he said he didn't have all the facts, but the pocie acted stupidly in arresting Gates.
I beleive that racisim will continue to come to the forefront, and will worsen.



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reply posted on 28-7-2009 @ 05:05 AM by jd140


Originally posted by contemplator
He's been handed a bucket of sh^%$! by the repubs and they want him to make diamonds out of it. He can't, no one can so now no one listens to anything he says. It's basically just repubs and media trying to catch him slipping up then they talk about that non stop. My prediction tomorrow is that the first dog will poop on the lawn and Obama will forget to collect it. This will be a national scandal that fox news runs with 24x7 for the next 3 days. USA makes me sick. Everyone deserves what they are about to get. I hate to say it but it's the truth.


People want him to make diamonds out of it because he said he could. People only expect things out of you if you say that you can do it.

He wasn't handed a bucket of anything either. He begged millions of people to vote for him so that he could have it. If he didn't think he could fix the situation then he shouldn't have ran for the job.

I am sick of the "I inherited this mess" crap that gets thrown around each time something doesn't go his way.



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reply posted on 28-7-2009 @ 05:16 AM by seagull


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Uh-huh, yeah the republicans were working in a vacuum this whole time, there weren't any democrats in Congress at anytime in the prior eight years of Pres. Bush's two terms. I seem to recall the dems had a majority for a good portion of that time... Now they have even more of a majority, and they have the White House...yet the noise remains the same...

Both parties are equally to blame for the problems, yet the majority of the blame lies with the people who voted these idiots into office in the first place... Politician don't operate in a vacuum, they'll do what they can get away with. so you wanna blame someone? Go take a long hard look in the mirror and start there...

Republicans...Democrats... Flip sides of the same coin... Thieves who got elected to office knowing that we'll be disinclined to watch over them if they make all the right sounding noises.

My thoughts on Pres. Obama? Too inexperianced, too naive, Thinks he's a lot smarter than he is. Nothing saying he can't improve over the next few years, but not too promising, at the moment.



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reply posted on 28-7-2009 @ 05:23 AM by FlyersFan


You asked - what do you think so far - here's my response -

Originally posted by AngelHeart
Now we have a president who supposedly IS for the regular Joe.


That's what he wants you to think, but it's far from the truth.

He's a corrupt Chicago-style politican. It's shining through in all he does.
Some of Obama's Friends The reward the buddies system is well in place.

He's a freak'n black-liberation-theology-cult racist.
Redistribution of wealth is racist and it's theft.
discussion and information here
Redistribution of wealth is RACIST

His neverending overseas apology tour is pathetic and ignorant.
Wall Street Journal
More Here
and more here
and even more here

His promise to disarm America is dangerous.


YouTube Link


His surrounding himself with deatheaters and corrupt socialists is frightening.

Ezekiel Emannuel for instance
John Holdren is another example
Eric Holder is a corrupt choice

He lied to get into office. Typical politician. No 'change, hope, unity'.
White House and Lobbyists

He power grabbed the Census from the Treasury Dept to the White House and is giving his corrupt ACORN buddies a bigger role in the census.


His spending trillions and trillions in just a few months makes the economic situation WORSE then it was. He's spending like a drunken sailor and it's out of control.

He's hiding his birth certificate. He's spending a lotta' money to keep
it from the American people. Definately no 'transparency'.
The first Obama's Birth Certificate Thread here at ATS

Oh ... and his wife makes me sick.
She's an elite, racist, play for pay Chicago politicians wife.

White House Party time
Michelle Obama's Pay for Play Position

THAT's what I think ... since you asked.



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reply posted on 28-7-2009 @ 05:24 AM by seagull


Originally posted by ReelView
Makes a good slick Willie. I had hoped he would declare a national malt liquor and chicken wings day.


Nice bit of racial bigotry, the KKK would be sooooo very proud of ya, son...

President Obama should be judged on his talents and abilities, not on the fact that his skin carries a bit more melatonin than mine. It would seem that, despite all the progress we've made in racial issues in the past few decades, we Americans have a long way yet to go...



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reply posted on 28-7-2009 @ 05:29 AM by AngelHeart


Remember! Race aside, will things get better or worse as his administration proceeds. He has no even yet quieted is own cabinet's disproportionate ideals to back his views. What needs to be done?



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reply posted on 28-7-2009 @ 05:33 AM by FlyersFan


Originally posted by contemplator
He's been handed a bucket of sh^%$! by the repubs ...

So Barney Frank is a republican?
So Chris Dodd is a republican?
So Bill Clinton's HUD Secretary Andrew Cuomo is a Republican?
So Obama, who sued Citibank and forced it to make bad loans, is a Republican?
So Bill Clinton who pushed for less stringent credit and downpayment requirements is a Republican?

etc etc etc


YouTube Link


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reply posted on 28-7-2009 @ 05:34 AM by seagull


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It's really hard to say. I'm not his biggest fan, nor am I his biggest detractor. I'm uncomfortable with the level of govt. spending he thinks is acceptable, no make that pissed off at the level of govt. spending he thinks is acceptable.

Health care? It would help if he had actually read the bill...to my knowlege he hasn't.

It'll be interesting, that's for sure. I'm not too confident, but I hope I'm wrong.



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reply posted on 28-7-2009 @ 05:37 AM by AngelHeart


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Your post is most accurate and not without the necessary citations. So is it only going to be "business as usual" or do his speeches resonate a need for change?



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reply posted on 28-7-2009 @ 05:39 AM by AngelHeart


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My problem with him is that he makes too many concessions to appease both sides. That is what happens when you vote in a Senator and not a Governor.



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reply posted on 28-7-2009 @ 05:45 AM by seagull


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The art of politics is comprimise, or leaving everyone equally unhappy. But I agree, he needs to stand his ground on an issue, until such time as a comprimise is the ONLY way anything at all will be accomplished.

Comprimise too soon, and you're percieved as weakwilled.

So I agree with you on that. But that strikes me as part of his character, and may not be something he can change readily.



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reply posted on 28-7-2009 @ 05:58 AM by WhatTheory


Originally posted by AngelHeart
My problem with him is that he makes too many concessions to appease both sides.

What concessions has Obama made to appease republicans?



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reply posted on 28-7-2009 @ 05:59 AM by kettlebellysmith


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I can only see things getting worse. Obama is in a hurry to get Pelosi and Reid to write legislation that will totally destroy this country. He is giving the ultra libs a free hand, and they have no sense of fiscal responsibility. If he continues, we will not only be bankrupt, we will degenerate into a 3rd world country.
Citizens are going to have to get politically involved if they wish to stop this, and turn this country around.



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reply posted on 28-7-2009 @ 08:15 AM by FlyersFan


Originally posted by AngelHeart
So is it only going to be "business as usual" or do his speeches resonate a need for change?

He's a typical politician. Nothing new. He does not represent 'change, hope, unity'. He's just a far left 'redistribute the wealth', soak-the-rich bamboozler.

so ... it's 'business as usual' with a FAR left wing twist.



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