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Who Is Lying?




Topic started on 28-7-2009 @ 01:31 AM by Lemon.Fresh


CNN/U.S. president Jon Klein sent an email to a handful of “Lou Dobbs Tonight” staffers last night regarding the coverage of the so-called Birthers and the validity of Obama’s eligibility.

In part, Klein writes, “It seems this story is dead — because anyone who still is not convinced doesn’t really have a legitimate beef.” Klein asked CNN researchers to dig into the question of why Obama couldn’t produce the original birth certificate. The researchers contacted the Hawaii Health Dept. and confirmed that paper documents were discarded in 2001 when the department went paperless. That reportedly includes Obama’s original birth certificate.

If Klein’s statement is true, then this official statement, dated October 31, 2008, from state health director Dr. Chiyome Fukino is false:

“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”

If what Klein says is true, Fukino is lying. If what Fukino says is true, Klein is lying. It’s one or the other, isn’t it?


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So . . .

How is it that state health director Dr. Chiyome Fukino was able to personally inspect the birth certificate in November 2008 when it had been destroyed seven years earlier?

How is it that FactCheck.org was able to have "seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate" around the same time if it was destroyed in 2001?

How is that Dr. Chiyome Fukino saw the original document, as stated this past weekend?



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reply posted on 28-7-2009 @ 12:00 PM by Lemon.Fresh


No one?

Someone has to be lying. They can't BOTH be right since they contradict each other.



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reply posted on 28-7-2009 @ 12:02 PM by fraterormus


What about the possibility that they are both lying?

Has there ever been a such thing as an honest person in government?

EDIT: Well, perhaps lying might be too strong of a word. Let's just say that both sides may be spinning the truth. They aren't called Spin-Doctors for nothing.

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reply posted on 28-7-2009 @ 12:57 PM by Lemon.Fresh


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1.) If the records were destroyed, the Dr. is lying, as is Factcheck.org, and we are back at square one.

2.) If the records were not destroyed, why were his records not destroyed along with everyone else's, and why has he not shown his real birth certificate?



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