Ok, everyone trust your Government. Believe what they say and get the shot. Well at to those you don’t like after all!!! When body’s start drooping then you could say “I’ve told you so”

Question to all those who will refuse to take it........

Will you let your kids get it?

If so, why would you put them at risk if this is something that you strongly believe.

If not, and you do come down with H1N1 yourself, and pass it to your kids, and one dies.....could you live with yourself?

I have 2 young kids, and I am going round in circles with this stuff....

damned if you do, damned if you dont

Originally posted by schrodingers dog

Ten things you're not supposed to know about the swine flu vaccine

#3 - The swine flu vaccine could actually increase your risk of death from swine flu by altering (or suppressing) your immune system response. There is zero evidence that even seasonal flu shots offer any meaningful protection for people who take the jabs. Vaccines are the snake oil of modern medicine.

False.

I'd like to see some reputable statistics that vaccines don't work.
Granted flu vaccines don't offer blanket protection because they have to gamble against which virus/strain etc..

I may agree with some of what you say or the topic as a hole but when you post false information like what I have quoted above your credibility for the rest of the argument comes into question.


[edit on 28-7-2009 by n1zzzn]

Maybe it's a depopulation method?
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The vaccine that is.

I never realized there were so many people here with a production level understanding of the chemistry of vaccines!

wow!

Yes, let's not vaccinate the population that is vulnerable.

1) regular run of the mill influenza kills approximately 30,000 americans a year. The majority of these are older and younger folks who are NOT vaccinated.

2) vaccination doesn't cause autism and that was debunked thoroughly some time ago. To perpetuate this myth is an outright display of remarkable ignorance. Willful even.

3) Do you think polio shots are evil too? How about mumps and measles?

Why are people so afraid of being vaccinated against a disease that could kill you if you are even a relatively healthy individual.

all vaccines are developed in a rushed environment. this is because an answer is needed before deaths rise too high.

anyway, try to stick to what you know. some of you come off as total tools blathering away with nonsense that is clearly not fully understood.

I'm all for being careful, I am not for regular joes making assumptions about fields of study and knowledge that they know next to nothing about and rather than be educated they get assumptive and start postulating nonsense.

you want cred for this stuff? do your effing homework first and do it for real, not some freakshow site quotes.

[edit on 28-7-2009 by son of total newbie]

Why am I even posting?


Anyone agree with what I said? I mean it does sound rather ridiculous that we

should be mass vaccinated for a minor outbreak of swine flu doesn't it?

edit for double post sorry

[edit on 28-7-2009 by halfmanhalfamazing]

Vaccines are not 100% worthless. Suggesting that they are is laughable. Why make vaccines? Because governments would be irresponsible if they did not. The biggest issue imo, is the pharms doing it. I think they should be out of the loop entirely. But regardless of any money-making attempts by pharm, the people of the world would scream bloody murder if no vaccine was produced. They are pretty much damned if they do or don't.

I guess you'll never stop some folks thinking it's all an evil plot to steal our money and kill us. But I'm of the mind it's more along these lines:

They really are trying to produce something that will help. They realize it won't be fully effective, and there is obviously possible side-effects, but that's always the way with all medications. Just listen to the laundry-list of wicked symptoms from most drugs these days. Yet people buy them knowingly. It's rather ironic in fact, that for a better sex life, or for a full head of head, people are willing to risk all sorts of harm to themselves.

The pharms of course are going to make a killing. What are the alternatives? Well, I suppose the government could be fully responsible for producing and making available vaccines, but I shudder to think about what sort of reaction *that* would get around here. It's unfortunate that one company can make such $$$ off of something terrible, but you know, that's life, and happens all the time.

I don't think this will be mandatory in any way, just heavily recommended, with a big campaign push.

I think they are doing this for the nations good, or attempting to. If a rogue, killer virus might kill say, 100,000, if they could reduce that to 50,000 with vaccines, regardless of side-effects, that's not an evil thing. They are screwed no matter what they do honestly. If they do nothing, they are trying to kill us. If they give us vaccines... they are also trying to kill us? huh.

Finally, the vaccine is not nearly as evil, wicked and worthless as some of you are making out. You act as if they put drain cleaner in the stuff, force it down your throats, making money off of the vaccine, and then after they sell the grave plots and coffins, they make out again. Why can't it ever be what it seems to you folks? It's always an agenda, the government is always evil, there is always something sinistar behind any and all actions. It can't possibly be a governing body that actually wants to try to prevent deaths by offering a vaccine, even if it is only 55 or 60% effective.

I may not even take it myself. I never take flu shots. But imo, dismissing it out of hand makes YOU FOLKS just as dangerous as the government, big pharm, or the virus. I wonder how many people will listen to this, say "ok.. no way I am taking this!.." and then wonder many months from now, when they are at their childs funeral, if maybe, they ought to have done it after all.