It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by Perseus Apex
reply to post by ManBehindTheMask
Unfortunately, those that will be enforcing martial law will be mostly made up of foreign troops (UN) though that is by design. Most of our troops will be conveniently overseas.
To answer your question, there are many ex-military like myself that would defend the 'people' and that which our military had supposedly lost so many lives defending; the US Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and Freedom and Liberty for all.
America is the last stand in the NWO scheme. If Americans don't rise up and defend the institutions above, America and that of the world will pay the price. Their collective progeny will be introduced to a world of serfdom where no one, even TPTB will be satisfied with the End result.
You have a Choice.
Choose wisely and act Courageously with Compassion in forethought.
Originally posted by rapunzel222
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
reply to post by bobbylove321
You need to seriously get a grip on reality.
You can live in your fog if you so desire, but it is awfully ignorant to use your freedoms to malign those who defend them with their lives.
I really wish that we could give all those who think like you a piece of land to call your own, so that you could live in this peaceful, blissful world of no evil and no need for use of force.
You would be a model for all the rest of humanity.
before you all bite bobby's head off, i think the point he's trying to make, is that in the world as it is, when you fight, you fight for those in control of the world, and at the moment, unpleasant people control the world. THAT is reality.
if no one in the world faught, there would be no wars.
at the moment, since a lot of people are unpleasant, and a lot of people are under the control of other unpleasant people, there are wars and fighting. the only way to really end the situation, is for everyone to experience a personal revelation about living peacefully on a block of land (as you suggest) and growing their own vegetables. i live in hope.
in the meantime, i dont question the motives of those who serve in the army. they see themselves as protecting their country from foreign forces who could harm their families and friends. and the way the world is at the moment, the foreign forces and powers would no doubt do so, even if everyone in the USA dropped their weapons. so yeah. its a problem.
until everyone in the world cottons onto the living in peace on a vegetable farm idea, we are going to have to protect our selves and others from unpleasant, unpeaceful people.
BUT: if a lot of the unpleasantness is coming from the very top of our society. by those in charge - and who DO control governments/military/police/judges etcetera - directly or indirectly, - then i think bobby is trying to say that people need to think carefully about the orders they are following and personally evaluate everything. and i think we all need to turn a critical eye on our politicians and leaders - and bankers - etc - including people in teh military. becuz the military CAN be used against its people, and to support evil ends. just look at the nazis. i am sure most of them believed they were patriotically serving their country, yet look what happened. i just think people need to THINK. defend those you love, sure; but i do think people need to be careful about what and whose goals they could be furthering by serving their leaders.
and if the leaders turn on the people you love, dont fight for them anymore. fight for those you love. personally i think our leaders already have turned on the people. which presents a bit of a problem.
So here it is: USAF, USMC, NAVY, Coast Guard, US ARMY, all reservists , all vets and current military, WOULD YOU if ordered by the United States government, turn on your brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers and friends...on your COUNTRY , If the order was given to do so? Or would you fight back against TPTB, to protect our sovereignty and people from tyranny?
Would you willingly round up people say, who wouldnt take a flu vaccine, and assist local police in arresting said people?
If the people rose up against the government, would you stand beside us and help us restore our freedoms? The freedoms we were sworn to protect when we took our oath? Or would you help the government quell the uprising?
...I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic...
....according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice....
Originally posted by observe50
And that is the reason they want to take you guns and weapons away. Easier for them to get at you.
Originally posted by TheCoffinman
though some military members are family types or high school patriots, you fail to realize who the person behind the guns are. ever watch a combat video from marines or soldiers in iraq or afghanistan? theyre not yelling, "omg! we must stop those bad guys from harming these poor innocent iraqi people"... no no its, "kill that motherf*cker wooooo!!!!!, that was f*ckin awesoe maaaaaaaan" a tyranical government usuaully takes care of its own... its how they stay in power, so i doubt anyones families who have a military member (immediate family anywasy) would feel any of the pains the rest of us would feel. theyd be takin care of.. im a vet i know what kinda folks are in the service.. if they werent willing to kill somebody, they wouldnt have joined...