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Originally posted by Angelsoftheapocalypse
Me, as a current military member, if an unlawful order was given, or even a lawful one that seemed too entirely wrong was given, i would turn. i will not herd with the rest of the "sheep" and do whatever orders my command give me. i have a conscious, and a brain, and i will use it. even if it means i will be in prison for the rest of my life. remember, our founding fathers were the same way, they turned against the king, for things that were done to them that they saw was wrong. and what are they called now? patriots!
Originally posted by Moshpet
The other thing is, riot control, anti-looting operations, peace keeping and similar actions are with in the legal realm of orders that would have to be obeyed.
If a mob attacked the soldiers under those conditions, they would be justified in defending themselves. A mob has no conscious and is more like a wild animal, there would likely be deaths and injuries as an 'organized' group defended themselves against an untrained mob.
Would the soldiers be at fault during those kind of operations? No.
The other side of the coin naturally is what becomes an illegal order?
If say in the course of breaking up a riot, a commander orders an all out assault using belt fed weapons tanks and so on. When lesser force will accomplish the same task; then it becomes an illegal order.
Now if the same mob had significant firepower and were giving the commander and troops sufficient cause to think their lives were in jeopardy, an all out attack in self defense is a legal order. However, once the threat was stopped, any further use of force would be criminal.
Now as for herding folks at gun point to line them up and shoot them, just for population control.... No, I really doubt any of our troops would willingly join in. The sane ones anyway. There are always some nut jobs who would do it if they could get away with it.
Basically as long as the mission is peace keeping and so on, and their lives are not threatened, I don't think any of our troops would need to fire their guns. But there is always the likelihood of some dolt with a gun 'starting something' on either side.
[edit on 27-7-2009 by Moshpet]
Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
So here it is: USAF, USMC, NAVY, Coast Guard, US ARMY, all reservists , all vets and current military, WOULD YOU if ordered by the United States government, turn on your brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers and friends...on your COUNTRY , If the order was given to do so? Or would you fight back against TPTB, to protect our sovereignty and people from tyranny?