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Originally posted by pasttheclouds
God is free from logic,
but this is logic,
that is the thing about logic,
logic is the truth,
and logic in this world frees god of logic...
but it is still logic.
My main point I want to make is this: there's a different between religion and spirituallity. I think this is crucial! I really think people need to separate the two.
Originally posted by Astyanax
Do you think 'spiritual people' are more intelligent than religious people?
[edit on 15/8/09 by Astyanax]
Originally posted by Welfhard
I think 'spiritual people' think they have a higher awakening of consciousness.
Well, I think that you think that I think 'spiritual people' think they have a higher awakening of consciousness.
Actually, on a serious note, I didn't mean the word 'higher' to be placed in there. I should have said "Athiests have had AN awakening of consciousness".p
I dislike the idea that you think I am Selfish or something like that.
Originally posted by jprophet420
I'm sorry but the study is very flawed and confuses athiests and agnostics. Athiests still have a dogma, they BELIEVE that god does not exist. Since one cannot prove a negative it is a belief without proof. i.e. a dogma.
This is why atheism produces a lot of being "anti-" something or other rather than visionary solutions. A-theism is a by-product of theism, its antithesis. It would not exist without theism. Ive often heard atheists say that "every child is born an atheist". As atheism is a clearly defined position which has spawned hundreds of books, lectures, political-systems and activism this cannot be true. A child is born without any position whatsoever. If anything, the new born child is an agnostic - but even that would be one label too many.
Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
This sums up the counterargument nicely.
SOURCE:Challenge Match: Republican08 vs Skyfloating: "Atheism vs. Theism"
Which is funny how a so called lack can be logically argued to be a lack when it has spawned hundreds of books etc.