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Originally posted by Welfhard
reply to post by badmedia
No I was more pointing out the pointlessness of declaring "I know truth." when it's completely unverifiable. It's made all the more pointless by actually telling people not to accept it.
Originally posted by Welfhard
reply to post by mamabeth
I know that Christ is a title.In hebrew His name is Yeshua,in english it's
I would argue that since 'Jesus' comes from the Greek bastardisation of the Hebrew that that is therefore not his name and should not be used. Yeshua, after all, also is the root of Joshua. Might as well call him that - it's not bastardised.
I have no intention of wearing a suicide belt and blowing everyone up.
But you are willing to die for faith.
The christian faith considers suicide self murder and is forbidden.
Some of the 1000's of denominations feature this as their dogma, which I find odd for two reasons. The god of the Bible killed people, left right and centre with the flood and such. He killed almost every newborn son of egypt apparently - and when a woman miscarries or it is stillborn, some priest or pastor will come along and say "God giveth and god taketh away." effectively apologising for God doing an abortion without the will of the parents.
Secondly, suicide can be justified. There was a movie I watched awhile ago with Denzel Washington. His son needed a heart transplant but they could not afford anything, but the end of it Washington was lying on a stretcher with a gun to his head so his son could have his heart.
There is also euthanasia, relieving the suffering of people on the way out the door (particularly gruelling and painful) then Euthanasia is perfectly reasonable.
..Not that I think suicide bombers are reasonable, but more that this kind of extreme fundamentalism leads to unreasonable thinking.
Originally posted by Welfhard
reply to post by badmedia
Please don't throw wisdom quotes at me if you do not understand their meaning.
That's a little out of left field. This isn't about wisdom quotes, I was pointing the stupidity of saying "I know truth" as you did.
No need to be insulting, this thread really seems to have gotten your back up.
Originally posted by makinho21
BadMedia again needs to belittle in order to triumph. Hurray for arrogance!
As he has done in every other post, he speaks from atop his divine pedestal, with the knowledge that we - the lesser minded folk - do not possess the means to understand the hidden truth he spreads. Perhaps that is why he continues to refer to himself as a small, round fruit - he is hoping to root the spiritual in all of us.
Originally posted by badmedia
reply to post by truthtothemasses
There are 2 ways you can accept something as an authority. You can believe it, or yuo can not believe. Those who really manipulate could honestly care less which "side" you pick, so long as you pick a side and debate off their authority and claims.
This sticks people into duality, in which each side becomes a bunch of hypocrites, who each play the evil for the other side. Each side will point out the flaws in the other side, while only looking at the good qualities of their own side. Each side is extremely sure that if they get rid of the other side, the problems will go away. But in action, both are really the same.
To me, ultimately both atheists and religious people are the same. They simply accept, but do not understand.
The only way to get out of that wheel of duality is to step outside of it and look at both sides. Take the whole middle east war. If people would simple step out of the wheel, take a look at things from both sides, they would see in action they act alike. And that is those who commit and promote those actions who cause the evil of the world. Don't be that guy.
If you think of whitte light as a metaphor of infinite, formless potential, the colors on a slide or frame of film become a structured reality grounded in the polarity that comes about through intelligent subtraction from that absolute formless potential. It results from the limitation of the unlimited. I contend that this metaphor provides a comprehensible theory for the creation of a manifest reality (our universe) from the selective limitation of infinite potential (God)...
If there exists an absolute realm that consists of infinite potential out of which a created realm of polarity emerges, is there any sensible reason not to call this "God"? Or to put it frankly, if the absolute is not God, what is it? For our purposes here, I will indentify the Absolute with God. More precisely I will call the Absolute the Godhead. Applying this new terminology to the optics analogy, we can conclude that our physical universe comes about when the Godhead selectively limits itself, taking on the role of Creator and manifesting a realm of space and time and, within that realm, filtering out some of its own infinite potential...
Viewed this way, the process of creation is the exact opposite of making something out of nothing. It is, on the contrary, a filtering process that makes something our of everything. Creation is not capricious or random addition; it is intelligent and selective subtraction. The implications of this are profound. If the Absolute in the Godhead, and if creation is the process by which the Godhead filters our parts of its own infinite potential to manifest a physical reality that supports experience, then the stuff that is left over, the residue of this process, is our physical universe, and ourselves included. We are nothing less than a part of that Godhead - quite literally.
[What] would emerge would be an increased understanding that all of us are immersed, both as living and physical beings, in an overall interpenetrating and interdependant field in ecological balance with the cosmos as a whole, and that even the boundary lines between the physical and "metaphysical" would dissolve into a unitary viewpoint of the universe as a fluid, changing, energetic/informational cosmological unity."
Akasha (a . ka . sha) is a Sanskrit word meaning "ether": all-pervasive space. Originally signifying "radiation" or "brilliance", in Indian philosophy akasha was considered the first and most fundamental of the five elements - the others being vata (air), agni (fire), ap (water), and prithivi (earth). Akasha embraces the properties of all five elements: it is the womb from which everything we percieve with our senses has emerged and into which everything will ultimately re-descend. The Akashic Record (also called The Akashic Chronicle) is the enduring record of all that happens, and has ever happened, in space and time."
Originally posted by TurkeyBurgers
I just wanted to let everyone know that I have just found profound wisdom and meaning in my life. I want to share it with you all, my fellow ATS members. Permit me if you will to share with one and all.
"The president of the United States (Bush at the time) has claimed, on more than one occasion, to be in dialogue with God. If he said that he was talking to God through his hairdryer, this would precipitate a national emergency. I fail to see how the addition of a hairdryer makes the claim more ridiculous or offensive." -Sam Harris
The Author Sam Harris has definitely helped me to find The Father.
His wisdom is great and his words are pure. I hope you all can find the hidden meaning in his works and spread the gospels of Sam.
This conception corresponds to a perennial intuition also articulated in Hindu Cosmology. There the almost infinitely varied things and forms of the manifest world are united in an essential oneness at a deeper level. At the fundamental level of reality the forms of existing things dissolve into formlessness, living organisms exist in a state of pure potentiality, and dynamic functions condense into static stillness. All attributes of the manifest world merge into a state beyond attributes. Time, space, and causality, are transcended in a state of pure being; the state of Brahman. Absolute reality is the reality of Brahman; the manifest world enjoys but a derived, secondary reality - mistaking it for the real, is the illusion of maya.
A comparatively evolved system, such as the human, has a comparatively evolved brain and thus a correspondingly articulated mental potential. The endows the human brain with a highly evolved capacity for recieving sensory signals from the manifest domain, and nonsensory in-formation from the virtual domain [ie: the zero-point field]. In regard to the latter, the brain is genetically informed by the wave function of the universe and specifically in-formed by the wave function of the social and ecological systems in which the individual participates. Sensory information constitutes the familiar contents of everyday experience, whereas nonsensory information, in modern societies generally repressed, comes to light mainly in the form of intuitions, images, archetypes, and the seemingly anomalous contents of altered-state experience.
The altered-state interconnection of human consciousness with the world at large is of crucial importance for our times (atheists take note). It exhibits a fact that both mainstream science and mainstream public opinion has long disregarded; that our mind is spontaneously linked with other minds, and even with the cosmos as a whole.
Evolution, we should note, realizes a twofold potential in the cosmos; a physical potential for the progressive, although intermittent and non-linear, complexification of manifest entitites; and a mental potential for the intermittent yet progressive evolution of consciousness. These potentials were encoded in the primordial virtual-energy domain. In the maximum concept that domain constitutes [b]the primordial nature of God.
Upon the termination of the evolutionary process - following the "evaporation" of the last remnants of supergalactic structures in the space and time of the last universe - the potentials encoded in the primordial virtual domain achieve final realzation. For the maximum concept the completely in-formed virtual-energy domain constitutes the consequent nature of God.
In the course of innumerable universes, the pulsating Metaverse realizes all that the primeval plenum held in potential. The plenum is no longer formless; its surface is of unimaginable complexity and coherence; its depth is FULLY IN-FORMED (caps by me ie: infinite intelligence). The cosmic proto-consciousness that endowed the primeval plenum with its universe-creative potentials becomes a fully articulated self aware cosmic consciousness - it becomes, and thenceforth eternally is, the self-realized mind of God.
I belong to a group of scientists who do not subscribe to a conventional religion but nevertheless deny that the universe is a purposeless accident. Through my scientific work I have come to believe more and more strongly that the physical universe is put together with an ingenuity so astonishing than I cannot accept it merely as brute fact. THere must, it seems to me, be a deeper explanation. Furthermore, I have come to the point of view that mind - ie: conscious awareness of the world - is not a meaningless and incidental quirk of nature, but an absolutely fundamental facet of reality
You were using it in a manner to which it would be impossible for someone to know the truth.
Why do I post? Simple - I plant seeds.