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Originally posted by MadDogtheHunter
reply to post by refuse_orders
Oh, now I'm a Nazi. Thats cool. What are you? A moron? Next insult please.......
Originally posted by badmedia
reply to post by TheRedneck
Ahh, the switch. I remember the switch, and I also remember having the name of my dad's name imprinted backwards on my rear and legs(which reads correctly in the mirror).
My parents use to make me go pick out my own switch. Which after a few years experience I found out was not such a bad thing. One might at first glance think the smaller switch is the best(for least amount of pain). Not the case. The best way is to get as thick of switch as you can find. And also get as close as possible to the end that is being held. It bounces more and is less painful.
I was spanked until I moved out when I was 16. Atleast 3 or 4 times a week, 3 or 4 times a day when I was younger. Had switches break from use.
I am not "broken" from it, and I certainly didn't feel abused at all. It's not like my parents did it just because they were bored. I was a rowdy kid, had 2 younger brothers and it kept us in line for the most part.
People act like "oh that's so awful". But yet, when given the choice between that and being "grounded", I would choose that each and every time(and it sucked when you got both anyway lol). I would rather be whipped than be grounded from going outside to play any day of the week.
We use to get paddled in school, and I would always choose the paddling over writing sentences or being suspended. Yes, it hurts, but it's only temporary.
The OP says they had "whelps that lasted days". And guess what? It probably didn't hurt for more than an hour - if that long. Which is the entire reason I would choose that over being grounded. It didn't last as long.
I don't think I've ever even seen or meet someone who was amish, so I can't really comment on that. But the above claim of "child abuse" is not child abuse at all. If it was abuse, then kids wouldn't choose it over being grounded all the time. It's actually a lesser punishment.
Crazy Horse, Tashunkewitko of the western Sioux, was born about 1845. Killed at Fort Robinson, Nebraska in 1877, he lived barely 33 years.
As a boy, Crazy Horse seldom saw white men. Sioux parents took pride in teaching their sons and daughters according to tribal customs. Often giving food to the needy, they exemplified self-denial for the general good. They believed in generosity, courage, and self-denial, not a life based upon commerce and gain.
One winter when Crazy Horse was only five, the tribe was short of food. His father, a tireless hunter, finally brought in two antelope. The little boy rode his pony through the camp, telling the old folks to come for meat, without first asking his parents. Later when Crazy Horse asked for food, his mother said, "You must be brave and live up to your generous reputation."
It was customary for young men to spend much time in prayer and solitude, fasting in the wilderness --typical of Sioux spiritual life which has since been lost in the contact with a material civilization.
The helplessness of childhood makes the threat of bodily harm or loss of love, which is used by the parents and others to enforce civilized morality and civilized education, a traumatic experience. The developing little person becomes afraid to express its own tribal nature. There is much fear that lies at the bottom of becoming a civilized adult.
When the child becomes aware of ideas and impulses that oppose the dictates of civilization, s/he experiences anxiety, which is the signal for danger. It is not the insights and urges themselves that the child fears, but rather the reaction to them on the part of those in charge
We have internalized our masters, which is a well-known psychological response to trauma. When faced with overwhelming terror, the human mind splits, with part of itself modeling itself after the oppressor. This is an act of appeasement: "Look," the mind says in effect, "I am like you, so do not harm me." As a result of the civilizing process, together with this psychological defense mechanism known as "identification with the aggressor", we now hear the alien voices of the various representatives of civilization in our heads.
These ego-alien identifications, built up over the course of a lifetime, cohere and form a distinct, circumscribed personality, or false self, that represents and enforces the rules and regulations of civilization. This false self is observable in the frozen facial expressions, stereotypic gestures, and unexamined behavioral patterns of the general public