Battle of the Titans: The New Great Game II, page 1
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Topic started on 25-7-2009 @ 03:25 PM by SLAYER69
Well the Games alive and active in Central Asia. We have Obama warning the American people the other day about No Victory in Afghanistan. The global powers are positioning themselves to be players in the New Great Game


Kyrgyzstan: At the Crossroad of Empires, a Mouse Struts
BISHKEK, Kyrgyzstan — The first high-level customers to arrive at this stop on the Silk Road in July were two of Vladimir V. Putin’s confidants. Got some land for stationing Russian troops — say, something with a nice long runway? Soon after, a senior American diplomat dropped by. Can we put the final touches on that deal to keep our own military base here? (Oh, and by the way, anything else we can do for

ON THE GROUND A KC-135 tanker plane at Manas Transit Center, once called a “base.”

Kyrgyzstan, a mountainous nation in Central Asia that has long been a contender for the title of most obscure former Soviet republic, has suddenly become prime real estate, like a once-homely neighborhood that all the A-listers now covet.

Its unexpected emergence onto the international stage says much about how the war in nearby Afghanistan, the struggle for political influence in the former Soviet Union, and the competition to control Central Asia’s bountiful oil and gas reserves are reshaping priorities of the world’s military and economic titans.

The other major player in Central Asia is China, which is also wary of the spread of Muslim fundamentalism. The Chinese concerns were underscored in recent weeks by the uprising by Uighurs, a Muslim ethnic group, in the Chinese region that borders Central Asia. Chinese companies are also investing billions of dollars in Central Asia.

“Everyone, all these powers, have a vital interest in this region,” said Andrei V. Fedorov, an analyst at the Council on Foreign and Defense Policy in Moscow. “It is not just economic. It is also stability. If something goes wrong in Central Asia, it will hit everyone around — Pakistan, Afghanistan, China — and will have great repercussions.”



www.foxnews.com
President Obama has put securing Afghanistan near the top of his foreign policy agenda, but "victory" in the war-torn country isn't necessarily the United States' goal, he said Thursday in a TV interview.

"I'm always worried about using the word 'victory,' because, you know, it invokes this notion of Emperor Hirohito coming down and signing a surrender to MacArthur," Obama told ABC News.


Central Asia The oil reserves there shrink the gulf states to nothing. It will be the flash point of the future.
Undoubtedly Central Asia’s strategic importance in international affairs
is growing. The rivalries among Russia, China, United States, Iran, India,
and Pakistan not to mention the ever-changing pattern of relations among
local states (five former Soviet republics and Afghanistan) make the region’s
importance obviously clear. Central Asia's strategic importance for Washington, Moscow, and Beijing varies with each nation’s perception of its strategic interests.

Washington focuses primarily on Central Asia as an important theater in the war on terrorism. Additionally, it is viewed as a theater where America might counter a revived Russia or China, or a place to blunt any extension of Iranian influence. Moscow and Beijing view the region as a vital locale for defending critical domestic interests.




If you look closely at the above map you will notice the surrounding countries. Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Russia, China, and Pakistan. Stay tuned this will become the international play ground.



Your comments?

Slay


reply posted on 25-7-2009 @ 03:43 PM by SLAYER69
reply to post by tothetenthpower



Well the Sheople will wake up when in about 5 or 10 years when they see us still hunting the YAWN "Taliban" .

As far as a separate forum for the New Great Game.
Dont get your hopes up so far I've received only dead silence.





reply posted on 25-7-2009 @ 05:42 PM by silent thunder
Thanks again, SLAYER69, for the continued topic/invite.

One thing that might save us to some extent (short of total regional military domination, which seems a pipe-dream to me at this point) is the fact that every major oil/gas producer in the region wants to DIVERSIFY its customers. For example, currently Iran's biggest customer for oil is JAPAN, not CHINA. They do not want to be controlled completely by Russia or China any more than they want to be controlled by the USA or the big Western oil majors. So they are trying to balance their customers. Pretty much every other oil/gas power in Central Asia and the Middle East has a similar policy, or would like to.

So...Rather than seeing China, Russia, or India as a new regional hegemon to replace the Western oil majors and their gov'ts, one could conceive of a multipolar petrochem policy becoming the defacto regional orthodoxy. This isn't is great for the USA as some other possible outcomes, and things won't be as cozy as in the old days, but its better than being squeezed out entirely.

Don't forget, also, as most of you are aware, the "proven" petroleum and natty-gas reserves of these various nations are wildly overstated and have been for decades. Additional exploration may bring new resources but we can't count on it for sure. Ominously for the US, a lot of the recent exploration in the region is being done by the state-owned Russian and Chinese petrogiants. The old Western oil majors ("the seven sisters") are dropping the ball. Although Western petrogiants still show up near the top of the Fortune 500, ahead of Gazprom or Sinopec, much of their stated income may be based on financial shenanagans or simply coasting on old glory and resting on their laurels. Not good.




[edit on 7/25/09 by silent thunder]


reply posted on 25-7-2009 @ 11:43 PM by SLAYER69
reply to post by IDK88



Yeah I still have some more to add. Sorry for taking so long RL you know how it is.
I'm working on an addition.

Stay tuned.



reply posted on 27-7-2009 @ 01:45 AM by SLAYER69
reply to post by silent thunder



Very good. Thanks for the links. Reading them now.



reply posted on 28-7-2009 @ 03:52 AM by SLAYER69


I think a congratulations is in order for all our New Great Game supporters maybe we caught somebodies attention!
Great work Everybody

The Great Game AND Battle of the Titans: The New Great Game II

Ambassador To Tajikistan Says U.S. Not Playing 'Great Game'

July 27, 2009
DUSHANBE -- U.S. Ambassador to Tajikistan Tracey Ann Jacobson denied that Washington is involved in a new "Great Game" in Central Asia with Russia or China, RFE/RL's Tajik Service reports.

Jacobson, who finishes her three years as ambassador in Dushanbe this month, told RFE/RL that she has read in the media about this "Great Game idea," but said "we are not playing any kind of game."



reply posted on 29-7-2009 @ 10:23 PM by mike dangerously
reply to post by SLAYER69

The pieces are moving into place it seems that all three major powers are making their opening moves it will be interesting to see how this will play out considering the major push for alternative fuels.


reply posted on 31-7-2009 @ 12:46 AM by SLAYER69
reply to post by IDK88



Well it begins.
Sad really. It was such a peaceful place. Oh well the game begins

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