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Originally posted by Frith
Again you're just trying to troll the readership here.
The only other question I have is that I just don't know why you bothered to become a moderator here.
Originally posted by jkrog08
[ it has ENTERTAINMENT VALUE. This is the sad truth and more real cases need to be presented in manners not concerned with excess fame, money, etc. Of course I am applying your statement to ufology but you could apply this to anything really.
Originally posted by Jezus
Isn't the main stream media more dangerous because it is just as false and unquestioned by the majority?
Originally posted by Frith
Had Skyfloating typed that false information is the "original seed" of some and not all problems I couldn't say much about it. However he did not. And you're trying to tell me its the cause of most of mankind's problems. You're providing no examples. Just like Skyfloating.
The "original seed" of some (not all) of man's problems are basic mindsets of desire like want, desperation, and greed. These mindsets can manifest themselves externally as a lie and turn into something else, but conspiracy theories are not the "original seed" of all or many of mankind's problems.
What Skyfloating is doing is stoking the fires here trying to throw an apparently baseless opinion out here knowing the type of reaction it would get. And he's gotten you and many others to agree to it without so much as single shred of evidence for his beliefs.
Originally posted by Sirius20
All kidding aside, I think you're right about a lot of your information. I have only been researching this stuff for a short time, though, and I know I still have a long way to go, but I still feel myself as a pretty logical person and I'm open minded. I look at all sides of a story before I make a decision on what I feel is true or not. It's kind of funny too, since I've been researching conspiracy theories trying to find the truth, I think I've become more confused than before I started. It seems that every other day I'm finding something that shatters my belief system because I can stop believing in something and admit that I'm wrong if more viable information comes along to the contrary. I started out with infowars and became hooked on that website and actually suffered from some of the symptoms that you had in your OP. I was paranoid, thought I was somehow more informed than others and laughed at the "sheeple", and gullible (which I'll admit I still am with a lot of stuff.) After going on that website though for a few months I realized how I turned into a different type of sheep, no different than the ones that the Jones' people criticize for watching the MSM. I was regurgitating the same exact information that I was getting almost verbatim and one day I realized that almost all of the comments on the articles there were doing the same thing along with people on youtube doing it. The amount of hatred, racism, and paranoia on there was enough to make my head spin once I got out of the spell I was in and if you even criticize him or any of the stories, you're automatically deemed a government shill or disinformation agent or troll. There are no reasonable arguments that actually take place on there it's just mass hysteria.
Originally posted by john124
This has a danger going beyond people's psychology, and the more people don't call out Iranian Islamic regime propaganda and lies as propaganda and lies, the more chance they have of winning.
Originally posted by notreallyalive
The claiming 70% with no citation and the haphazard, mostly incorrect, meaning of psychological terms does nothing but allow conversation. This thread is not at all about fact - it's precisely what the author says is a problem.
Originally posted by Sed Non Credo
Not a day goes by where I don't sit in awe of many U.S. citizens seemingly overly denying ignorance, to an extent where few even seem to crave all out anarchy.
Originally posted by T0by
We have to think of the teens we are influencing here at ATS too.
Sometimes it is obvious a poster is quite young and is spouting quite paranoid words at such a young age.
How are topics like the ones on this site going to affect them later in life if they accept them into their belief systems?
I think we shouldn't forget how we are influencing the younger people.
Originally posted by schrodingers dog
You're not suggesting that keeping a certain archetype of folk occupied, playing on their fear based dogmas, with contrived conspiracy theories is the real conspiracy, are you?
Originally posted by mckyle
In the real world, people are held accountable for what they write and say
Originally posted by Frankidealist35
Skyfloater I just read your OP and it looks like you've just completely given up on every conspiracy theory what so ever.
You can no longer see the truth as it is.
I think you have bought in to the mainstream media's opinion that conspiracy theories are bunk, that conspiracy theories don't happen, and, that they're all a lie.
These people aren't out to get us. They're only out to control everything. These politicians are control freaks. They're total jokes.
The mainstream media doesn't cover them at all. They just love oogling over Obama like he's the messiah. Obama went to bilderberg in 2008.
They probably did plan the economic collapse. If they didn't they certainly ignored all the forewarnings before they did anything.
The word conspiracy theory is just a label to discredit people who are looking for the truth. The mainstream media represents the establishment. It only represents two different mainstream sides of the view. People watch the mainstream media. They get their views from them. The government controls the airwaves.
The New World Order probably is evil.
UFOs do exist.
Many people in our government are war mongers.
much of your post is bunk.
Where did you get the 75% number from?
Why do you even come on here if you just think that conspiracy theorists just have mental problems?
Originally posted by MightyAl
1. Even if you are a disinfo agent, we are already misinformed by many articles in the mainstream and independent news and blogs.
2. Enough evidence shows that you are better off trusting David Icke and Alex Jones than the mainstream news for 9/11 and the Swine Flu.
3. The Swine Flu is overblown in the mainstream media and it is the CTs who are trying to make it sound less bad
4. Don't trust Sorcha Faal, who tells lies in articles.
5. History shows what the governments have done before, so why shouldn't it happen again? Should I now not trust Jim Marrs either?
6. The Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Bildergberg Group, G30, Federal Reserve, Bank of England and so on really exist, and are not just sitting there thinking about the best life for the people on Earth
7. The world of finance is in fact corrupt, e.g. AIG just to mention one, Geithner and the AIG chairman are members of G30 for a start, so how did they handle the AIG bonuses?
8. Anyone ever heard of Carlyle?
9. Anyone ever seen what's going on in Pipelinistan, and wondering how that related to the wars in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq and eventually Iran?
The mainstream news doesn't mention much of these or anything at all, but they are in fact happening. So who do you want to trust the most?
Originally posted by Neo_Serf
Hence the move to shut down/regulate the web.
'Conspiracy Theorists', for all their nuttiness, represent the last bastion of truthtelling in an otherwise decietfull world.
Everything human has a +/-, but in the grand scheme, those of us who ask questions and refuse to be spoonfed info are the vanguard of truthfulness and liberty in an otherwise BS paradigm.