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posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 02:05 PM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
reply to post by Jezus
 


Fortunately, nobody gives a rats ass about the old guys opinion on the internet.

You, on the other hand, are almost behaving as if you want the internet to be destroyed just so you can tell the world "I told you so!"


Well YOU might not care what he thinks about the internet but the point is his point of view represents that of those in control of information...

They don't like the internet and they don't like free speech because it makes it more difficult to control and manipulate people.

As far as offering solutions, stop pretending this isn't happening...

Stop pretending that we can trust powerful people to play nice.

Be aware, that is the first step to solution.




posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
And the fact that it's on infowars does not make it true.




I agree, but it also doesn't change the fact that it is true.

The elites don't like the free speech of the internet...

Rockefeller expresses it openly...

It isn't much of a conspiracy it is simple logical reasoning of cause and effect.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 12:20 PM
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theres a logical explanation for some things, most not



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 12:31 PM
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ACTUALLY, it is more than that, i think. it seems to be heading rapidly into the arena of true anti-semitism both against the jews and the muslims. and it also seems to be dragging the christians along for the ride as well. resulting in a huge bias specifically against people of the abrahamic faiths. the backlash is not pretty. you have rampant theories as to what it all means from all sides of the fence, but only a handful who actually know what's going on at the top, with their apprentices scrambling for a way to control it before it gets ugly. can't say i blame them as no one wants a repeat of any holocaust of any kind, at least, i know i don't and most of the people i know don't, but doesn't it look as if this is the direction it's heading in?



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 06:41 AM
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mods pls delete, I posted to the wrong thread

[edit on 24-8-2009 by lucid eyes]



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 06:57 AM
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great topic, this is something that should be taught in school.



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by Jezus
Well YOU might not care what he thinks about the internet but the point is his point of view represents that of those in control of information...


No it doesnt. And Rockefeller does not own the Internet. Most media execs are not only appreciative of the Internet but actively try to utilize it to further their own media empires.



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 12:52 AM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
No it doesnt.


Well that's your opinion, but I think the future will reveal otherwise...


Originally posted by Skyfloating
Most media execs are not only appreciative of the Internet but actively try to utilize it to further their own media empires.




No one is talking about "media execs"



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 10:43 AM
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The topic of this thread is pointing out the delusional people within the CT-scene.

I think you`d be surprised how many there are.

This discussion-board alone gets daily complaints by delusional paranoids who claim that ATS is "Controlled" by _________________ (fill in the particular group you love to hate).

In the last 4 weeks alone we`ve viewed posts claiming ATS is controlled by the FBI, by Conservatives, by Obama-supporters, by Jews, by the Government, by the CIA, by Terrorists....

In psychological terms, this behavior is called projection.



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
reply to post by Jezus
 


The topic of this thread is pointing out the delusional people within the CT-scene.

I think you`d be surprised how many there are.


There are tons of "delusional" people every where.

My point is that the more prevalent delusional people are those who believe they can trust and believe everything the corporate media tells them...

They judge truth by how "official" a source seems.

If something seems odd and doesn't get national media attention...dismissed.

If something is reported by a nice, polite, wealthy, well dressed, arrogant person on a big important news channel...accepted.

I think these people are far more common and far more dangerous for society...

We have this idea that paranoid people are delusional...maybe in some cases.

But paranoid people are often extremely skeptical, while apathetic people are naive and accepting.

This idea of dismissing and accepting information based only on where it comes from is disturbing.



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by Jezus
My point is that the more prevalent delusional people are those who believe they can trust and believe everything the corporate media tells them...


Not me



I think these people are far more common and far more dangerous for society..


Delusion is dangerous no matter whether it comes from the mainstream or from "conspiracy-theorists/alternative-press".




This idea of dismissing and accepting information based only on where it comes from is disturbing.



Not me.



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 11:59 AM
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Disliking is thought and thought is not always put into action thusly not a crime. I can dislike any of a million things. Doesn't mean I am actively trying to kill it.



posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 11:12 PM
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Just giving a friendly "bump" to this important thread. Will try to add what I can after reading through.

But reinvigorates my confidence in ATS. Some exceptionally knowledgeable and thoughtful people around here. They just get lost in the crowd sometimes.

Mike



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 08:17 AM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
Delusion is dangerous no matter whether it comes from the mainstream or from "conspiracy-theorists/alternative-press".


Exactly, so we should probably be more concerned by the more prevalent delusions that have more control of the infrastructure of our society...



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 06:25 PM
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Originally posted by Jezus
Exactly, so we should probably be more concerned by the more prevalent delusions that have more control of the infrastructure of our society...


What would that be for example? Can you give examples?

Lets see...I "learned" on ATS today...

"Pepsi is a Zionist Plot"

"There is no evidence that planes hit the WTC"

"2012 is actually 2008"

hmmm....

[edit on 3-9-2009 by Skyfloating]



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 06:29 PM
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Its "theories" such as these that are so much more damaging to the reputation of the conspiracy-theorist than evualations of the msm.

One could almost think they were "planted" in order to discredit CTs in general.

[edit on 3-9-2009 by Skyfloating]



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 06:43 PM
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Invasion of the Body Snatchers

I used to love paranoid-science-fiction. The type where even the main characters very best friends, that assured him there was no conspiracy, were in on the plot. I remember "Total Recall" where Arnie has a suspicion about a Marsian Conspiracy, but his wife (who is part of the conspiracy) assures him all is well. I remember

Logans Run
Soylent Green
1984
Brave New World
Minority Report
Village of the Damned
Invasion of the Body Snatchers
The Matrix

and many, many more. I used to think these are the best movies around because they build an awareness of "something being wrong in the world, that we cant quite put our fingers on". But on the other hand, its movies like these that also foster some of the kind of exaggerated paranoia found here.

I would bet good money that 99% of this websites visitors have watched these classics with eager fascination.



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 06:53 PM
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Great thread, many times I wanted to leave this forum, because of the reasons you listed, also,

Conspiracy theories can be dangerous.
I really believe some groups or people spread falsehood to perpetuate hatred towards others.

Which makes me wonder why sites like this allow theories that are blatantly false.



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 06:57 PM
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Also wouldn't it serve the ATS community well to work together towards truth, a joint effort in research and fact finding,?

Instead we choose sides and ridicule and undermine anyone who starts a topic that doesn't suit our particular political agenda.

[edit on 063030p://bThursday2009 by Stormdancer777]



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 07:00 PM
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Then there are those who do the exact opposite yet still equally wrong and only believe "alternative" sources.





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