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Originally posted by Muckster
reply to post by lagenese
did you read my post?
Originally posted by Muckster
You UFO people are all mad... There is no proof of UFO's except a few grainy photos and the statement of a few crack pots!!!
Well... that’s what I used to think
I used to avoid UFO forums and websites like the plague...
Skeptical Ed: "That I can understand! I've been attending UFO forums since the '90s and they draw individuals who are not the sharpest tacks in the box so I would guess that 7 out of 10 are going to be believers who don't require evidence and scoff at skeptics."
But i have been looking into this subject recently... and the more I look, the more interesting it gets. There are thousands of witness statements from all walks of life and some of the footage I have seen (especially from Russia and Mexico for some odd reason) is very convincing.
Skeptical Ed: "Yes, but don't accept everything you see as real because CGI UFOs is now the hot trend."
Now I’m not saying that i am fully on board with the whole ET thing (yet)... i don’t think that the evidence is strong enough (in my mind) to say for sure one way or the other. Travellers from the future? ET's? Experimental aircraft? Who knows... But there is defiantly something going on that can’t simply be put down to Chinese lanterns or over active imaginations... and it seems that there is a surge in sightings at the moment.
Skeptical Ed: "The ET "thing" is, so far, in the mind of believers since not a single event has been supported by evidence regardless of what you hear, read, or see. One has to wonder what or who may be piloting UFOs if, indeed, they are craft but so far no one has come up with convincing evidence."
Anyway... just wanted to say sorry for pre judging all you UFO believers and I would like raise some points and ask some questions...
Skeptical Ed: "One should always keep an open mind about everything until the evidence brings into the realm of reality."
As I just mentioned, there seems to be a lot of activity around Russia and Mexico... do any of you guys have theories as to why this is?
Skeptical Ed: "I've always wondered about this myself."
2) Black Projects
For those of you who believe that it is experimental aircraft (black projects) how do you explain the sightings over majors city’s and the harassment of airliners?
Skeptical Ed: "I'm not an accepter of real UFOs being anything connected with humans. All human-made aircraft require wings, except for blimps and helicopters. If it has wings, it's ours."
3) ET’s reason
To those of you who believe it is in fact ET's... Do you think that they are trying to send a message or do you believe they are trying to just watch us covertly?? Because either way I don’t think they are doing a good job. If they are trying to send a message you would think that beings able to traverse the vast distance of space would have communication skills more advanced than a bit of weaving and bobbing in the sky. And if they are trying to be covert... well that one speaks for itself. Or, maybe there is a completely different reason for them being here that we haven’t thought of or considered!!
Skeptical Ed: "I don't consider UFOs a product of ETs. UFOs do not behave as if the occupants, if any, give a flying f__k about humans. They're blatant!"
I heard that some scientist have put many of the Alien abduction story’s down to sleep disorders such as sleep paralysis... what do you guys make of this? Personally i don’t buy it because I have suffered from sleep paralysis a few times in the past and it was nothing like being abducted and probed... Very weird and a bit scary, but nothing like what I’ve heard alien abductions are like. However, would aliens with super advanced technology not have mastered the art of non-invasive surgery? Would they really need crude surgical instruments and implants?
Skeptical Ed: "In my opinion, based on 52 years as a UFOlogy enthusiast there is no doubt that alleged abduction stories originate in the minds of the tellers due to many factors, mostly media reports that just perpetuate exponentially."
Forgive me if these questions have been raised before but I’m new to this section of ATS.
Oh... one last thing... i still think some of you are nuts, but then so am i so it’s all good