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Originally posted by SarK0Y
to process info always been haemorrhoidal curse
Originally posted by A51Watcher
are the ones that are supporting 'bulbs'... and that have 'hands and arms' -
Originally posted by zorgon
Well this is really odd... nothing like this ever showed up in previous searched
The Great Pyramid's Subterranean Chamber Hydraulic Pulse Generator
The Great Pyramids of Eqypt were ram water pumps...
Originally posted by griswold
i cant watch videos from first post:
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Originally posted by zorgon
Ever see one of those working?
I'm not an Egyptologist, I'm a technologist. I do not have much interest in who died when, whom they may have taken with them and where they went to. No lack of respect is intended for the mountain of work and the millions of hours of study conducted on this subject by intelligent scholars (professional and amateur), but my interest, thus my focus, is elsewhere.
When I look at an artifact to investigate how it was manufactured, I am not concerned about its history or chronology. Having spent most of my career working with the machinery that actually creates modern artifacts, such as jet-engine components, I am able to analyze and determine how an artifact was created. I have also had training and experience in some non-conventional manufacturing methods, such as laser processing and electrical discharge machining.
...The ancient Egyptians created artifacts that cannot be explained in simple terms.
These tools (primitive copper instruments) do not fully represent the "state of the art" that is evident in the artifacts.
There are some intriguing objects that survived after this civilization, and in spite of its most visible and impressive monuments, we have only a sketchy understanding of the full scope of its technology.
The tools displayed by Egyptologists as instruments for the creation of many of these incredible artifacts are physically incapable of reproducing them.
After standing in awe before these engineering marvels, and then being shown a paltry collection of copper implements in the tool case at the Cairo Museum, one comes away bemused and frustrated.
Dendera and the Temple of Hathor
"In the last room, one sees, carefully carved on the Southern wall, a falcon with detailed feathers, preceded by a snake emerging from a lotus blossom within a boat. Whereas the whole of the temple is constructed of sandstone, to facilitate a relief of fine quality there was placed in the wall, at the level of the figures, a block of limestone suitable for very detailed work, and of this the artist took full and perfect advantage. These reliefs are cosmological representations. The snake that comes out of the lotus is equated with the shining deity Harsamtawy (Ihy) as he appears for the first time out of the primordial sea. He is again represented near the bottom of the crypt in the form of two snakes also coming forth, but this time wrapped in lotuses like protective envelopes. Sometimes those that were on the Mesktet-barque collaborated with Horus; other times the Mandjet-barque with its crew helped to reveal the god: Djed raises his body, a supreme manner of worship, attendant of the god's prestigious ka. The statuettes appear to have been used for the New Year celebration and the festival of Harsamtawy. It is likely that on these solemn occasions these objects were transported to the vault [i.e. the room above the crypt]."
Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by A51Watcher
You’ve made some excellent shape comparisons to lead the argument that the AE had advanced technology. Lovely images and collages, but perhaps some context?
Maybe some evidence that AE had the infrastructure to design and engineer column insulators, cables, transformers and glass bulbs? It should require more than a reflex interpretation of these ancient reliefs before we knock Faraday, Ampere and the guys from their pioneering position in history...
They had the materials: copper, glass, ceramic. Did they have the ability and knowledge to apply those materials to the generation of electricity? I’d say nope, not at all.
Have we found anything that looks like a column insulator or a length of copper cable…not that we know of.
For this technology to have existed, it must have been brief and practically within a sociological bubble.
At the very least, it appears to be confined to the Dendera Temple complex without precursors (Eddison was all trial and error) or subsequent uses or references by latter rulers (Greek or Roman) or contemporary historians.
The ‘Dendera light bulbs’ are found in the Hathor Temple, constructed around the 1st Century BC during the Roman Period. So at what level of technology were the Romans and Egyptians at in this period? One drawback is neither the Romans nor the Egyptians had the knowledge to blow glass. Without this ability, perhaps the bulbs are only bulbs to modern eyes? It was mid-1st Century before the technique came through from Syria. No glass, no bulbs. No evidence of copper cables, no insulators or parts thereof.
Unless we take the route that shady forces have ‘hidden the evidence,’ or maybe we drag out the Zahi Hawass strawman and blame him, it seems reasonable to accept the explanation of the Dendera temple reliefs provided by scholars.
Here's Francois Daumas describing them in 1958
Dendera and the Temple of Hathor
"In the last room, one sees, carefully carved on the Southern wall, a falcon with detailed feathers, preceded by a snake emerging from a lotus blossom within a boat....
Such a description interlaces with the body of academic literature and translations of Egyptian culture, beliefs, temple depictions etc. Not anomalous, but contiguous with all that is known about the period.
and do thank you for your diplomatic thoughtful reply which seems extremely rare in the forums these days.
Faraday, Ampere and the guys from their pioneering position in history...
The ancient Egyptians themselves attributed their wisdom to an earlier age going back 36,000 years.