PROJECT ISIS: The KGB's Discovery of The Tomb of The Visitor

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne

"I expect to photograph thoughts," announced Mr. Tesla

Yeah thats a good one ol' Tesla, we have not heard much about
that since.

PHOTOGRAPHING THOUGHTS.; Dr. Baff Discusses Discovery Credited to Japanese Scientists.
query.nytimes.com...

Seems the Japanese are taking credit

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If we have the capability we might incurred the wrath of the Japanese Nation again.
Its best the CIA keep it a secret and let Japan think they have something all to their own.
NYT disinfo 1911.
The telepathic and vision topic even then drew in the ranks of agents without substance.
Tesla went to a variety of NY and US papers so I wonder of his true thoughts were of the NYT.
Probably the same about JP Morgan and being banned from project investments.
Of course there are photos of lightning craft near Japan in WWII.

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Wayne Herschel is only an armchair archaeologist. Has no qualifications as such has

never been on an excavation. Only a tourist. I too have been to Egypt and to the pyramids

with an archaeological student as a guide so probabaly as well in formed as him but i wouldn't

dream of claiming to be an expert !!

As for his Star maps and 'Hidden Knowledge' all gleaned from the internet, something any

one of you is capable of. That would suggest to me that his book is only theory and a work

of FICTION. An actual work of fact is the FREE e.book on ATS "The TRUE story behind the

hoax heard round the world

Dr Hawass Resigned

The second reason is that there are two crooks in the Antiquities Department, who have accused me of stealing antiquities and doing other illegal things all of the time. Their files talk about this. A third person started saying similar things, a university professor who was the Antiquities Director for almost 6 years before me, who never accomplished anything in that time. As a corrupt man, he even gave his signed permission to a rich lady from another Arabic country to take manuscripts out of Egypt!

SOURCE:

www.drhawass.com...

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Q: Dr. Hawass, for many years you have been the image of modern Egyptology. Why are you leaving now?

A: “I am leaving because of a variety of important reasons. The first reason is that, during the Revolution of January 25th, the Egyptian Army protected our heritage sites and the Egyptian Museum in Cairo. However, in the last 10 days the army has left these posts because it has other tasks to do. The group now in charge of the protection of these sites is the Tourist Police, but there are no Tourist Police to do this either. Therefore, what happens? Egyptian criminals, thieves (you know, in every revolution bad people always appear…), have begun to destroy tombs. They damaged the tomb of Hetep-ka at Saqqara, the tomb of Petah-Shepses at Abu Sir and the tomb of a person called Em-pi at Giza. They attacked a storage magazine at Saqqara and we do not yet know how many artifacts are missing; they opened two storage magazines at Giza; one tomb dated to the 19th Dynasty, the only one in the Delta in fact, was damaged at Ismaïlia; and a store at El-Qantara East has been broken into and looted for antiquities. People have begun to build houses and to excavate at night, everywhere, putting heritage sites all over the country at risk. I had to write a report and I sent it to the Director of UNESCO. That is why at the meeting of the Egyptian cabinet yesterday I had my speech prepared already and I said: “I cannot stay in Egypt and see antiquities being stolen when I cannot do anything to stop it!” This situation is not for me! I have always fought to return stolen artifacts to Egypt. I did fight Ahmed Ezz as well, the man in the Parliament, who was the most powerful man, because he wanted to allow antiquities to be sold in Egypt again.

www.drhawass.com...

"they opened two storage magazines at Giza..."

Could this be those underground secret chambers we have been searching for?

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After working in hospitality, and dealing with Indian people, I have really discovered how different other cultures can be.

In America, to insult your competitors is seen as bad form. We prefer to have others speak for us (and you can buy those kinds of services, if you are inclined).

My first inclination is that Hawass has something to hide, if he is using such tactics. It seems to betray a guilty conscience. Of course, my personal opinion on the man might cloud my judgement....

Regardless, perhaps in his culture, mud slinging is appropriate. Who knows. It wouldn't change my opnion on him much.

Originally posted by eletheia An actual work of fact is the FREE e.book on ATS "The TRUE story behind the hoax heard round the world

Got a link to that? I can't seem to find it... thanks

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Link to the hoax heard round the world for you .
www.abovetopsecret.com...

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Ah thanks

I did notice this though...

This is an independent work by a member of AboveTopSecret.com, and is not endorsed or otherwise authenticated by the staff of AboveTopSecret.com, or the ownership of The Above Network, LLC.

So I guess that makes it true eh?

All the top debunkers in that one Rich England, Phage, Bedlam, Buddasystem, Byrd... etc...

That story really touched a nerve. Gotta love it.

Hey Zorgon -

Nice thread with many interesting contributions by members.

As threatened here are a few of mine on the subject:



That was a very nice presentation on the Concealed Crypt wall carvings in the Temple of Hathor at Dendera and the Crookes Tube demonstration. (What a coincidence it produces a snake effect just as depicted eh?)

All I can add perhaps for clarification is that there are actually 3 bulbs in total depicted in the Concealed Crypt.

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What I find interesting are the depicition of what appears to be high voltage coils in the base support of the bulbs:

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This coil is prominent in many locations in Egypt.

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using one for doing their nails and hair.)




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My addition to The Winged Disk pictures -

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and a very early depiction of Ra's sky boat -

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I note that most of the pop myths about Giza that have been fed to the public for decades by 'the experts' have been shown their proper place in the trash bin here.

Such as - Pyramids being used for tombs. That one got started early on when an 'egyptologist' desperate to make a find, dragged a mummy from an actual tomb inside a pyramid and then announced his 'discovery'.

He was later found out and the mummy returned, but the damage had been done.

The most telling proof is quite simple. Besides a mummy never being buried in one, in all real tombs the walls are adorned with hieroglyphics.
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On the walls of the pyramids, there are none. (More on that later.)
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When listening to 'experts' tell you about who built what and when, be very careful to check how they 'know' this. A little research will quickly show you that most of the time, they 'think' they know who, but in reality they have NO real proof.


Such is the case with the age of The Sphinx, which I see was mentioned briefly here, but with surprisingly little response considering how pivotal and extremely pertinent it is to the rest of Giza:


For decades we were told they knew who built it and when.

Then In 1993 'Egyptology' took a huge shock-wave when along came researcher
John Anthony West:
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who turned out to have a sharp eye and made some very astute observations after wandering around Egypt for a while.


To his keen eye, it appeared that the body of The Sphinx looked incredibly weathered, decrepit and ancient, yet the head had a more recent look to it:

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Odd he thought, considering the head is what has been exposed to the elements it's entire life, while the body has been covered and protected in sand for most of it's life. So it should appear the other way around shouldn't it?

Quite obviously the face had been re- carved in 'more recent times'.

But the enormity of how ancient the weathering of the body appeared to be is what really had his wheels turning. Also to his eye, it appeared different than the weathering he had seen in other locations during his wanderings around there.

He realized that if what he suspected were true, the results would cause the biggest storm 'Egyptology' has ever seen.


And so, he took some pictures of the body of the Sphinx and the surrounding enclosure walls, and covered portions of them with black tape. He then used his private connections to visit the geology department head of a prestigious university and showed him the pictures, and then asked him what had caused the erosion of this limestone bedrock.

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His response was "Well... water of course."

John then peeled off the black tape and showed him what was beneath it in the photo.

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The professor's eyes widened as he immediately realized the consequences of this and responded with "No no no, you can NOT get me involved with this!" and quickly showed John the door (and HERE take these with you!)

John knew he was on to something, and managed to find a young geologist, Dr. Robert Schoch:
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who was willing to travel to examine the evidence, and confirmed what the original professor had told him -
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"Well... water of course... You see, water erodes layered limestone with rounded edges, while wind and sand erode layered limestone with sharp edges."

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BIG problem... - There hasn't been any appreciable rainfall in Egypt for some 10,000 years! Plus the fact that this monument had to -already be in place- in order to be weathered by this rainfall!

The problem here is that - we are told by 'the experts' that as Humans we were still in the hunter-gatherer stage at that point. And yet, these primitives were able to cut and move these massive stone blocks to create this monument and use the resulting blocks to create the adjacent 'temple' shown here:



But yet we are supposed to believe that primitive hunter-gatherer's somehow had the technology to cut, move and reposition at will - massive blocks of bedrock limestone:

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From John's online Bio -

The ancient Egyptians themselves attributed their wisdom to an earlier age going back 36,000 years. West set out to test the hypothesis that the Sphinx was much older than its conventional date of 2500 BC. His findings provide the first hard evidence that an earlier age of civilization preceded the known development of civilization in the Nile valley.

He also proved that 'the experts' are providing us very flimsy guesses instead of facts, and so the field is wide open for anyone to go out and research the truth for themselves about The Giza Plateau.

Originally posted by A51Watcher
Hey Zorgon -

Nice thread with many interesting contributions by members.

As threatened here are a few of mine on the subject:

yeah this thread went pretty well... mostly positive contribution all around and actual content. We could use more like that at ATS

I wasn't aware that you were so heavily into this aspect though... I started out my search from this angle many years ago. The UFO stuff was just a passing interest at the time. I regret that now because I was around during the glory days but never got into it heavily till recently...

And the old timers are expiring rapidly

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I dont understand whats the big deal about it being weatherd by water?

I understand you just said it hasnt rained in 10000 years , so what are you getting at ?

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by A51Watcher
Hey Zorgon -

yeah this thread went pretty well... mostly positive contribution all around and actual content. We could use more like that at ATS

a-men to that Brother.

I wasn't aware that you were so heavily into this aspect though... I started out my search from this angle many years ago. The UFO stuff was just a passing interest at the time.

I was forced to start my search from the other angle, because of my sighting of course. Researching that subject matter you encounter items from Egypt all the time because of the claims of an ET connection.

It quickly became apparent that there was more than meets the eye going on at Giza.

I tend to go along with your thinking on the age of the GP. There are structures and locations in Egypt that we have clear proof of who built it when. Then there are others where there is -no record- as to it's origin.

I find it interesting that these unknown structures exhibit amazingly powerful workmanship while by comparison the known ones are rather feeble attempts at imitation.

The Sphinx is Exhibit A of one of these unknowns being not 'new kingdom' or 'old kingdom' but how about 'super dooper -way- old kingdom'?

I regret that now because I was around during the glory days but never got into it heavily till recently...

Your lucky you got into it at all considering how thick the smokescreen is.

And the old timers are expiring rapidly

Look at the bright side. That is how we get affidavits like Haut's.

I would be interested to hear your thoughts about the area in the GP circled in blue:

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referred to as the 'antechamber'.

The KGB Files have to be one of the most, if not the most, extensive collections of ufo incidents and research on ufos in the world. The KGB has been known for years to have covered up some of the most interesting ufo case files that have came from the Soviet Union. What the KGB had actually been researching for ways to wage modern warfare when they went to Egypt. This way they would have found, researched, and studied how to be more effective when it came to conflict. Just as an example, the KGB, like Glavkosmos may know the truth as to what happened to the Phobos 1 and 2 space probes in the late 1980s.



If there isn't anything to UFOs, then why have the KGB, the CIA, and countless other intel agencies been interested in ufology and ufos. What the KGB had actually been researching for ways to wage modern warfare when they went to Egypt. This way they would have found, researched, and studied how to be more effective when it came to conflict. If there is something there that the governments, whether it be Russian or not, do not want us to know thats there. There has to be something there other than what the KGB have said. May be the would have found as to where they could have developed a super-advanced weapon that they could have used to defeat the United States and NATO if we would have went to war later on. What they may have found, if the footage is legit, could change the face of humanity as we know it.

Originally posted by milkyway12
I dont understand whats the big deal about it being weatherd by water?
I understand you just said it hasnt rained in 10000 years , so what are you getting at ?

The big deal is that it hasn't rained there for 10,000 years. That means it was built BEFORE the rains eroded it.

Originally posted by A51Watcher
Such as - Pyramids being used for tombs. That one got started early on when an 'egyptologist' desperate to make a find, dragged a mummy from an actual tomb inside a pyramid and then announced his 'discovery'.

Rosicrucian tradition relates that the great pyramids of Giza were most sacred in the eyes of initiates. Contrary to what historians affirm, our tradition relates that the Giza pyramids were not built to be the tombs of pharaohs, but were actually places of study and mystical initiation. The mystery schools, over centuries of time, gradually evolved into great centers of learning, attracting students from throughout the known world.

www.rosicrucian.org...

Planting a mummy to prove a point And people wonder why I detest Archaeologists

They also avoid the fact that the GP is a perfect structure and yet it is the oldest even by modern main stream reckoning. All the later ones decline in perfection. Now normal in construction project you learn as you go, getting better until you get it right... but with the GP its the exact opposite

They also avoid the Inventory Stella that says Khufu only restored an already ancient structure. Unfortunately Hawass won't let anyone examine it... maybe now that he has resigned (again) we might have some luck on that, but I doubt it

Originally posted by A51Watcher
I would be interested to hear your thoughts about the area in the GP circled in blue:
referred to as the 'antechamber'.

I hadn't really given it much thought beyond the mathematical sacred geometry precision...

Are you referring to the hydraulic lift theory?

I am sure you have read Charles Piazzi Smyth's works. If not you should. He was an Archaeologist before they went bad

Charles Piazzi Smyth (January 3, 1819 – February 21, 1900), was Astronomer Royal for Scotland from 1846 to 1888, well-known for many innovations in astronomy and his pyramidological and metrological studies of the Great Pyramid of Giza.

Charles Piazzi Smyth
Our Inheritance in the Great Pyramid (1877)


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