PROJECT ISIS: The KGB's Discovery of The Tomb of The Visitor

Originally posted by zazzafrazz
reply to post by zorgon

 

Cheeky Zorgon....
Ill stick to trusting the hard research I did in my archaeology degree

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Archaeologist isnt a dirty word....


Im of the belief they are mortuary in purpose, and reflect the meglomania tendancies of the period.

Do they have a connection to the stars, likely.

Could there have been visitors to Earth? Possible.

Were they built on a older site relating to Orion? possible.

But these structures totally reflect the thoughts and culture of the period they are atributed to.

Could they be remembering space travvelers or worshiping a god king? who knows.

I just ask, why would aliens build such a clumsy large useless structure that reflects the power and meglomanic mindset of pharoahonic Egypt?

Why would the preceeding pharoahs attempt to make pyramids instead of claiming the great pyramid thats already sitting there...like Cheops supposedly did? Surely they would just take the best? We would see the names of the previous pharoahs scratched out.

We would see reference to them somewhere pre dating the Giza complex.

Why are the queens pyramids perfectly dated to Cheops...why were they able to suddenly build perfect pyramids that replicate Cheops at 45 degress?
They weren't morons, the 45 degrees they learned to correct the cracks with the bent pyramid.
I'm quite sure they could have meansured 45 degress angles if the pyramids were already there and replicated it, rather than try steps, then crooked pyramids....Imhotep was brilliant at math, if he had the perfect working model already sitting there, he would have got his measure stick out and replicated it......pure and simple

Good old Project Isis say that there was a cold fusion reaction inside the pyramid and its purpose was so aliens had celestial navigation, OH my, why would they need a pile of bricks that large to navigate when they can bend space and time? Its totally ridiculous, surely they use better materials other than stone? To teleport....maybe just a round star gate? or a landing pad like Star Trek...too funny, yes to navigate the aliens need a big stone pyramid....

Put it this way, in our level of advancement, we can only make it to the moon, but if we need to build something to navaigate, would you build a big fat stone clumsy pyramid?

Archaeology is a dirty word. I took a few grad Arch classes just for giggles while working on my grad degree in chemical engineering. Thing is these guys have no clue what is going on anywhere and use opinions and then cite them as facts. Gotta love how they just outright make things up with no evidence to cite any of their wild claims as true. I am a scientist so when we make conclusions they can be reproduced. Archaeologists never make money unless they write a book since their jobs are useless and only espouse an opinion that is 99% of the time wrong. Leave construction to the engineers the language to professional linguists, and the study of the materials to chemists. Archaeologists need to go back to playing in the dirt like their supposed to. Archaeologists think everything is for a funerary purpose if there is even one body inside. Shows how archaeologists have tunnel vision and always reach for the same conclusions over and over, hence why they make no money.

From my experience the pyramids are not built by UFO's or aliens. I think the egyptians built them. Though I do think there was an outside influence or an alien influence. The russian movie thing I watched. I gotta say I get their actors but it does come off real fake considering there is no way to independently verify their claims. What I like about the video is the idea that something else is behind it, also the implications of a greater influence across cultures on different continents who built the same structures at the same time. It is paralell to if every company invented the car at the same time. Makes no sense so there is importance here in the grand scheme of things.

Did some checking and the lead man on the Tesla aircraft
being the so called UFO or Foo craft or any of the closely
eyewitness craft by Zamora, Heflin, Walton, the Hudson Valley and
Belgium going by the name Lyne says Russia had the technology
all along.

So all my posting about Russia not knowing Tesla technology
might be totally wrong.

Don't know why KGB likes to put together UFOs and pyramids but
why not.

So Operation Paperclip brought in a development team to the US
there might have been some captured by Russia.
UFOs made US news in the 40s then Russia took over with normal
rocket technology. Did they have UFO or saucer envy, no cause
they had the technology. Russia just grabbed headlines in the
50s more terrifying and allowed since Tesla technology was
agreeably banned .

Lyne is publishing in Russian now but doubt the ordinary Russian
will catch on.

Tesla said the coil voltage pressure makes sound waves in environment
as he said of his radio. He made generators small enough to power
his aircraft with the necessary voltage. The is no free energy as
apparently it free momentum captured by the coils that speed off
in his ships.

Sorry I don't know about how the Pyramids were built and neither
did Velikovsky but sure US and Russia will keep on denying UFOs.
Like where did they go. The Tesla generators might help stop
the flow of Arab oil but they should soon be in command so why
worry. Any more bold moves like 911 only means they still have more
money than we do. And they might tell us about the Pyramids and
won't.
ED: The first video link did not work, this looks similar:



[edit on 8/29/2010 by TeslaandLyne]

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
So all my posting about Russia not knowing Tesla technology
might be totally wrong.

Hey TeslaandLynn Nice to see your still here...
I got something for you that you might find 'useful'

Remember all that talk of the Tesla Beam Weapon research that the Russians were working on? It was one of the main projects given to that CIA remote viewing team under "Project Stargate"

Remember that they appeared to have great success with the viewers yet never found the actual location? Or so they said

Well lets toss that in here seeing as it ties in with Russia and strange science...


Background

Tesla Life and Legacy The Missing Papers

Nice article on Tesla done by PBS
www.pbs.org...

Now the point of interest on that page is the suspected Soviet beam weapon installation, the only photo of the original report I have seen


U.S. satellite reconnaissance photo of suspected Soviet beam weapon installation near Semipalatinsk. Published July 28, 1980. (Courtesy Aviation Week & Space Technology)

Work on beam weapons also continued in the United States. In 1958 the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) initiated a top-secret project code-named "Seesaw" at Lawrence Livermore Laboratory to develop a charged-particle beam weapon. More than ten years and twenty-seven million dollars later, the project was abandoned "because of the projected high costs associated with implementation as well as the formidable technical problems associated with propagating a beam through very long ranges in the atmosphere." Scientists associated with the project had no knowledge of Tesla's papers.

In the late 1970s, there was fear that the Soviets may have achieved a technological breakthrough. Some U.S. defense analysts concluded that a large beam weapon facility was under construction near the Sino-Soviet border in Southern Russia.

SOURCE PBS

The project was then listed with the CIA remote viewing team as
# URDF-3 (Unidentified Research and Development Facility-3)
Baikal-1, Semipalatinsk, Kazakhstan

Here is a copy of the sketches that were produced by the RV team. The one thing that stood out in all the drawings was the large crane on tracks



Well that crane is still there today and can be seen on Google Earth
50°10'12.69"N, 78°22'36.84"E



Got all the data and links here

Russian Military Outposts


Some of my other Tesla links, though you may have these already

"Electric power is everywhere present in unlimited quantities and can drive the world's machinery without the need of coal, oil, gas, or any other of the common fuels." _Nikola Tesla

Nikola Tesla's Flying Saucer

Nikola Tesla Page - Material and resources to build your own tesla coils

Nikola Tesla - Museum

Nikola Tesla - The Complete Tesla - A complete Nikola Tesla webpage covering all aspects of his life and his inventions. Many hard-to-find period articles are also featured.

Pepe's Nikola Tesla Archive - - Hungarian [but articles, lectures and patents are in English]

Tesla Memorial Society of New York


Have fun

I only considered a type of remote viewing when Bill Lyne said
Tesla waves mimic or are similar to brain alpha waves.

Then I found Tesla thought of using the retina direct for
television.

Well one can take that and run anywhere.

I considered remote viewing from above in a saucer that is
already sending out Tesla waves for suspension.
And William Reich was under a saucer watch.
Cause he grounded one from behind a cloud.
A quick talk to Einstein and he was gone.
Were they monitoring his mind or sending him messages.

I'll check out your post but you can see I have a few leads.

Tesla considered robots to fight our wars.
Are people considering mind control instead.
Tesla said submarines might be located with the tower that
was torn down. Does that mean most objects reflect his waves.
We won't see any Tesla towers going up and his tuning is quite
unknown. If we do then remote viewing might be in effect.

ED: By the way Mr. Lyne spotted a patent he said was a
confidential mind control until de classified.
A rotating bar magnet can either calm, as in the case of
hostage cases and used by police, or stimulate so as not
to doze off on a night time drive home. The stimulating
frequency I didn't find out so my dashboard Jesus with
rotating magnet can't be patented yet.

ED+: About the strange science. We know one of Tesla applications
is in operation. The airship. Just how much more is allowed we
can't tell. As Bill Lyne spent years researching Tesla and monitoring
events, if suspects something there might be something to it.
In most Tesla related announcements I'd say Bill might say its
bogus and did not work as the science is too closely held.
What does that leave us. Only to explain the unknown with a
possible Tesla science connection. So it comes down to does
the theory, er Tesla fact, explain the event or phenomena.

On the Pyramid builders. I recall a promotion of monoatoms
touted on the web to be used.
pyramids monoatoms

ED++: Some extra Tesla links uncovered:

A core page in the saga of the Tesla capture of momentum with little energy

Tesla Lecture all the basics of his discovery

Tesla Notes never fully divulged

Lyne's research

Foo fighters


[edit on 8/29/2010 by TeslaandLyne]

reply to post by zorgon


So zorgon are you thinking of there is a remote viewing gap.
I'll have to see more of your post.

What looks like a lot of houses or garages might be the antenna.
Now without having tuned into the right frequency we might never
know there are waves out there like the woodpecker.

However if remote viewing is being implemented we can see
what they see with the same set up.

They stole our bomb we can steal their views.

However the antenna of Tesla is unique:





That looks like an array of antennas for remote viewing.
If some one thinks so they might be right.

ED: I don't see anything Tesla because he built up large voltages
and we do not see any towers like Tesla made.
Tesla left the tower business and went to small generators for his
pet aircraft projects after loosing the towers that would remotely
power and control the craft.
He said the towers would detect submarines but would they classify
or remotely view them.
The Tesla beam and force speeches in 1940 were his last before
leaving everything to the FBI in 1943 and are now in Los Alamos
Oppenheimer Library according to Mr. Lyne as noted on many
of his web pages and authored books.
I don't know who is guiding projects away from Tesla science
but perhaps Russia can't produce as well.

ED+: Since ether waves are pressure waves or sound waves,
only Tesla's theory or absolute natural fact, then the flat antenna
is like a pressure pad. The early use of the open cylindrical coil
might be like a spring. Tesla thought in mechanical terms it seems
in his discoveries except he did have an all electrical Van Der
Graff machine using the open coil circuit.

ED++:

"Electric power is everywhere present in unlimited quantities and can drive the world's machinery without the need of coal, oil, gas, or any other of the common fuels." _Nikola Tesla

Most likely due to 'carriers in an insulative liquid' that managed to
flow off his coils and radio antenna.
What is now thought to be most amazing is that the momentum is
either free or in great quantities for the amount of input energy
as Tesla refereed to propelling force or mechanical force in one
announcement in 1940. However driving motors and appliances
wireless is sort of a given with Tesla but the other ideas seem
to have everyone confused.




[edit on 8/30/2010 by TeslaandLyne]

In the Stargates are Real thread we are looking into the Osiron at Abydos, Tomb of Seti I

Well speaking of tunnels and caves below the Egyptian tombs...

new data claims that hawass excavated it to 174 meters and the stairway abruptly ended. he believes this proves that seti i's workmen never finished the secret chamber, although a false door was originally at the end of the first staircase in the tunnel. - Undo
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Ended? Hawass goes to all that trouble and it just ENDS???

Oh Okay I buy that



[edit on 30-8-2010 by zorgon]

reply to post by zorgon


Zorgon - WELCOME BACK!

Now get to work - I (and others) have greatly missed your research and input.

Originally posted by zorgon
Don't recall ever saying only one entrance.

But thanks to Hawass we may never know now

Wait, seriously - Zorgon, are you saying that Hawass may not be making public all that he and his teams have uncovered??

reply to post by zorgon


not only that, but in the video itself, before they have even finished the excavation, before they give up the search because no secret chamber materializes at the "end of the tunnel" which hasn't occured in the video, he says:

"But the most important thing is not what we are going to discover, but this impressive, unique excavation and restoration." (emphasis mine)



i was like, huh? did a double take and listened to it again to be sure i heard him right.

[edit on 31-8-2010 by undo]

I just started reading this thread today after a reference to it in the Stargates thread, so I'm not sure if my question is answered herein - somehow I doubt it. Has any new information popped up on that book by Victor Ivanovich? I find mention of it all over the internet on various sites similar to ATS, but I haven't found any definitive answers yet on whether it really exists, and if it does, where.

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan


I'm exactly where you are! Read this thread last year, forgot about it. Now reading Manly Hall as well as Fingerprints of the Gods and Beneath the Pyramids.

All this info and reading 3 books at once is going to make my head explode!

Late here now, will add more later.

reply to post by zorgon


On a side note years ago I read a book ( I think the author's name was rimpoche or something like that) basically about a tibetan monk, and in that book they stated that hidden in the himalayer's (spelt wrong I know) is a cave which housed all sorts of machines from a lost civilisation. He even states that he visited it. my memory is hazy as it was a very long time ago when I read it, but I always wondered if that was one of the real reason's that china invaded tibet. Also if this story and your's are true then maybe there are a lot more of these hidden caves than we think.

Originally posted by k0mbination
maybe there are a lot more of these hidden caves than we think.

Actually, funny thing - not too long ago I had a dream along those lines not too long ago - I was in some ancient Mayan city, and I remember walking into a pyramid, and found some odd machines after opening a door. I don't remember the details - but I have a feeling that may be a place to look for this sort of thing as well. I understand many of them are untouched and overgrown - untouched because of government denial of access, I guess? Not sure on all the details.

Originally posted by k0mbination
On a side note years ago I read a book ( I think the author's name was rimpoche or something like that) basically about a tibetan monk, and in that book they stated that hidden in the himalayer's (spelt wrong I know) is a cave which housed all sorts of machines from a lost civilisation.

"Cave of the Ancients" Dr Tuesday Lobsang Rampa...

Rinpoche or Rimpoche (Tibetan: རིན་པོ་ཆེ་; Wylie: rin po che; IPA: [rinˈpotʃe]) is an honorific used in Tibetan Buddhism. ...

He used that term... interesting you remebered that

Many will tell you he is a phony... but then many know very little about anything. I have all his works available in PDF format. I suppose I need to get busy and make a thread about some of what he has written.

In the meantime if we want to seriously look at caves...

Skyfloating has some awesome threads on that subject...

PARA: Untersberg - The Mystery Mountain
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Subterranean Worlds
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I seem to recall there was one other large cave thread of his. I will have to write him

And since your down under you might be interested in this

Ancient Egyptian Hieroglyphics In Caves of Australia
www.abovetopsecret.com...







[edit on 1-9-2010 by zorgon]

reply to post by zorgon


That was the one! Cheers for that, might be time to re-read that. Greatly enjoying your post by the way

reply to post by zorgon


I just had a look at one of your links about egyptian glyphs being found in a cave in New South Wales Australia, which reminded me about a story I heard from a local a few years back when I was on walkabout in the northern territory. He mentioned a rumour that there is a link portal between Australia and America. He believed you could walk in from aus and come out instantly in America! At the time I just dismissed it as drunk talk but maybe I was hasty.

I wanted to make sure you didn't miss the new video from August 15, 2010 from Don Alejandro Cirilo Perez.

Specifically in video 2 his discussion of the "visitors" that came from Pleiades to visit and teach those in Atlantis, Egypt, Asia and India.

This is important because that is why there are pyramids all over the world with the same construction styles, common hieroglyphics, and similar languages, rituals and beliefs.

Part 1



Part 2


Part 3

reply to post by k0mbination


THIS is important.

The local...what kind of local?

Where about in the NT?

Details...we need details.

reply to post by zorgon


When you do author a Rampa thread, make sure I know. I have read all his stuff and would love to discuss it further.

I just don't make good threads. I am a better participator on ATS.

Originally posted by k0mbination which reminded me about a story I heard from a local a few years back when I was on walkabout in the northern territory. He mentioned a rumour that there is a link portal between Australia and America. He believed you could walk in from aus and come out instantly in America! At the time I just dismissed it as drunk talk but maybe I was hasty.

That would be the jump gate between Area 51 and Pine Gap near Alice Springs... but then, as you say, its only a 'rumor'



Too bad you didn't get his number. I would buy him a few drinks



[Bill Ryan (Project Camelot)]:

One of them was the reality of the star gate, the portal, the wormhole, the jump room, the network so that you could one moment be in Area 51, the next moment in Pine Gap. And that prompted Arthur to show his Australian visa in his ... Was it a visa?

ANZUS treaty: New Zealand discloses UFOs as U.S. hides possible ET/UFO base at Pine Gap, Australia

ANZUS treaty



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[edit on 1-9-2010 by zorgon]