PROJECT ISIS: The KGB's Discovery of The Tomb of The Visitor

There's a new alien-abduction movie with Milla Jovovich coming out in November called The fourth kind.
The trailer has one interesting scene in it, starts at some 1 min into the trailer.

The fourth kind

Fact based.



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What scene where you refering? The Sumerian reference?

Zorgon, have you read the tablet's of Thoth?

If you haven't i really need to ask you to read them. They have some very interesting references to what I believed were the pyramids. Not only that, it speak of the name of GOD, the word of POWER. If I remember rightly, it was ZINTHURA. This word is apparently meant to hold all the power of all other words. Not quite sure what it meant, but this has to be one of the most interesting reads I have every seen.

The books seem to change meaning with every read, depending on the reader's perspective, what floats through their mind at the time. I have read it three times, each time going in with a differet perspective. The first, I had been reading alot of Electric universe, so went into it with that mindset. Then there was Cymatics, which it seemed to be just as informative on and lastly I had been considering the concept as LIGHT and DARK being metaphors for enlightenment and ignorance, that one really went down a treat, very humbling.

Anyway...I always thought that a 'higher intelligence' would have a totally different writing style. For instance, we right linearly, If I was to ask you to describe a concept, you would likely try and get as much information in there as possible, pages and pages of explanation about the key points, down to the minor details.

I considerded that an advanced intelligence, would be able to express all these forms, these ideas, but not using space, but using the mind. Imagine reading an explanation to a concept that was about 2 lines long, yet with every read, it would take on a new meaning to explain a different part of the concept, it took on a new meaning every time you read it, because it requires mutliple mind sets to fully understand and comprehend.

I'm not doing a very good job at explaining this, but you'll see what I mean, or you may have already seen what I mean.

Great thread btw, read one of the old ones , but it was only about 3 pages long.

EMM

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I considerded that an advanced intelligence, would be able to express all these forms, these ideas, but not using space, but using the mind. Imagine reading an explanation to a concept that was about 2 lines long, yet with every read, it would take on a new meaning to explain a different part of the concept, it took on a new meaning every time you read it, because it requires mutliple mind sets to fully understand and comprehend.

I'm not doing a very good job at explaining this, but you'll see what I mean, or you may have already seen what I mean.

You did a great job of describing it. I think that is a great theory by the way.

Very thought provoking. Now I have to go read what you recommend.


Edit: After reading the preface. I can't believe I haven't read this already. Thank you for pointing me towards it.




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In all fairness, I was dubious at first, I went into it with a 'pinch of salt' type mindset, which I still do to a degree, but it just really resonated (pardon the pun) with me. I had never really considered what an 'advanced language' was up until this point, but as I read, different ideas would come to me, like those I mentioned above and they all (or ALL, you'll se ) could be interchangable and still really give great insights.

The words that seem to change the context are all upper case, LIKE THIS .

Thoth, is supposedly Hermes Tri-magestus (thats defo spelled wrong, lol), or thrice born. He was supposedly incarnated as Metatron (have a gander at metatrons cube in all it's glory), Thoth and Hermes.

The Halls of Amenti maybe linked from those caverns, or are those caverns, or maybe they are something completely different I am yet to percieve from the tablets, I'll give em another reead soon, haven't read them in a while and my perception has changed since then.

Enjoy.

EMM

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Yes that book is most interesting.

It certainly contains 'layers' of information and I agree with your supposition of advanced intelligence. They would be conveying their ideas in a 'more than 3 dimensions' form of communication. Hence, this is why 'Sacred Geometry' is so exciting, it allows connection to the vast (Universe) and the micro [small] (Atomic/Quantum Realm).
I believe that this is conveyed in that book by the precise placement of words and this coinciding with a 'Sacred Geometry' of some form.

It is known that in Ancient Egypt that neophyte priests were taught by sound and vision (i.e. Music and Pictures) and not by written textbooks.

Anyway, keep up the investigation, the Universe is a big place, and full of many mysteries to teach us, 'as we allow it to'.

Okay a couple additions from the cave thread..

First on accoustics

Originally posted by starwarp2000
Dose it have any magnetic properties:

Funny you ask that... Just Think in the ISIS thread sent me some documents I have been working on... here is one picture from that... though it means putting the horse in from of the cart for context....



Also go read these two

Geophysical Studies of Hawara Pyramid Area - Faiyum - National Research Institute of Astronomy and Geophysics prepared by Geomagnetism and Geoelectricity Dept - April 2008
www.grenswetenschap.nl...

Geophysical Studies of Hawara Pyramid Area - Conclusions
www.grenswetenschap.nl...

Also the various caverns and resonant chambers in the rock were a fantastic transmitter of sound: We once placed a speaker playing music in a cavity in the rock and we could hear it up to 6 miles away!

Are you familiar with "The Great Stalacpipe Organ"?

Located deep in the Luray Caverns in Virginia's Shenandoah Valley is the Great Stalacpipe Organ, the worlds largest musical instrument.

Quite awesome sound... they tuned the stalactites and the organ has little hammers that hit the 'crystals'. The sound reverberates through the caverns.

Hammer



Organ



"Pipes"



You can hear a sample here
www.oddmusic.com...

www.oddmusic.com...

Dang I hate multiple threads... Since this is tied to sound harmonics I need to copy this to the ISIS thread

I have not gone over those two PDF's yet but a glance tells me they are important. Thanks to Just_Think for sending them to me

Uncovering the Pyramids Plateau - Giza Plateau in a Search for Archaeological Relics by Utilizing Ground Penetrating Radar

The following interpretations of the collected GPR profiles show some interesting features which are probably a location for archaeological relics in two areas:

1. close to the southern side of the first Pyramid (Khufu) and;
2. around the causeway of the second Pyramid (Khafre).

Some other features of less mass have been delineated close to the eastern side of the second Pyramid and close to the entrance door to the northern side of the Sphinx.

The studied areas are distributed over the Pyramids plateau to ensure coverage of selected key zones. The results of the survey support the possibility of the presence of undisclosed relics, of high value.

The opinions of specialist
(Egyptologists) were a fundamental issue in this study. Most of our discussions with the Egyptologists have lead to one common point of agreement: that the probability of new findings at the Pyramids plateau is rather high.
The previous works in the area were mainly focused on shallow depths. Consequently, we have directed our strategy in the present study at a slightly deeper depth.

SOURCE:
National Research Institute of Astronomy and Geophysics
Helwan, Cairo, Egypt
Abbas Mohamed Abbas*, El-said A. El-Sayed*,
Fathy A. Shaaban* and Tarek Abdel-Hafez*
NRIAG Journal of Geophysics, Special Issue, PP. 1 ? 16, (2006) - [PDF]
www.howtosurvive2012.com...

Originally posted by Somamech
Unfortunately right now I cannot find the first article I found regarding the dsto's research into "spherical sound waves".

“When analysing cracks, we're able to drill down into the material and .... fact that when people speak, they emit spherical sound waves. In a room .... DSTO researcher with radar trial equipment aboard DSTO's DEAP research aircraft. ...

www.dsto.defence.gov.au...

1997 International Conference on Acoustics, Speech and Signal Processing
Title: Space-Time Processing for Wireless Communications
www.code.ucsd.edu...

Originally posted by Somamech
In a nutshell his article is about how 'ARCE' are the real puppet masters behind Hawass.
ARCE can be found here:
www.arce.org...

Hmmm they are out of Texas

Admin State:San Antonio
Admin State/Province:TX
Admin Postal Code:78216
Admin Country:US

And I thought that was spelled 'arse'


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Originally posted by kyleplatinum

An Egyptian king offers a conical-shaped object called 'white bread' to Anubis, the "Opener of the ways," lying on the chest as 'the Keeper of the Secret'.3

the 'conical white bread' is esoteric representation of white powdered monoatomic gold... an alchemical formula to increase longevity and its tied to the Grail legends

Behind her is the treasurer Sobekhotep, who holds in readiness a conical cake of white bread. Most importantly in this portrayal, however, is the fact that Treasurer Sobekhotep is described as the 'Overseer of the secrets of the House of Gold, who brought the noble and precious stone to his majesty'.

Recent experiments with this amazing white powder of gold have proven that, under certain conditions, the substance can weigh less than nothing and can be made to disappear into an unknown dimension. But, the most interesting quality of the powder is that it can ride upon the Earth's magnetic field so that, when in a zero-gravity state, it is capable of transposing its own weightlessness to its host, thereby facilitating levitational powers. This host might be a a straightforward laboratory pan or container, but it could equally be an enormous block of stone as used in pyramid building. Indeed, pyramids are, as established by their very name, fire-begotten.

Genisis of the Grail Kings
www.karenlyster.com...

Lawrence Gardner (Rosicrucian) White Powder Gold
ORMUS PRODUCTS AND M-STATE ELEMENTS
graal.co.uk...


Conical presentation at the Sinai temple of Hathor


Who is this 'Henry' you speak of?






[edit on 14-8-2009 by zorgon]

Originally posted by zorgon

Who is this 'Henry' you speak of?

William Henry methinks zorgon!

According to author William Henry, the ancient world knew of special connecting places between heaven and earth that were called Tula or the City of Peace, and were considered the navel or center of the world. Mesoamericans such as the Mayans, Asians and Egyptians all believed in a special place on the earth where star people came and deposited great libraries of wisdom inside crystal repositories. Almost always, these connecting places or "docking stations" are referenced by the name Tula.

Willian Henry

Lots of cool links to read in this thread

Earlier this year I was searching around for info regarding cymatics etc and came across John Reid's work and how he mentioned doing an experiment inside the Kings Chamber.

I could never find any pictures of this and I could not find it my local bookshop and then I sorta paid attention to the moon and let this area of interest take a back seat....

I just found the pictures of the experiment of them along with a written piece today.

www.cymascope.com...


ATS needs a jumping for joy smiley

reply to post by Ayrton


Thanks for posting that link.

That film looks interesting.

What a great thread! So many leads to follow up.

What I would give to be able to enter these sercet chambers and caves and do some investigating.

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by Somamech
Unfortunately right now I cannot find the first article I found regarding the dsto's research into "spherical sound waves".

“When analysing cracks, we're able to drill down into the material and .... fact that when people speak, they emit spherical sound waves. In a room .... DSTO researcher with radar trial equipment aboard DSTO's DEAP research aircraft. ...

www.dsto.defence.gov.au...

1997 International Conference on Acoustics, Speech and Signal Processing
Title: Space-Time Processing for Wireless Communications
www.code.ucsd.edu...

Yes that's the document I was referring to

Originally posted by fleabit
I'll have to delve back into this. I was under the clear impression that this was a hoax, for many reasons. By the way, did they ever test those "many strange objects" that were synthetic, and undefinable found in the tomb? Or did they just mysteriously disappear?

Having just watched the first video, I thought this looked like a hoax, almost like it was a deliberate and open attempt to make a series of fake documentaries? For example, the 'expert' talking about the evolution of ancient egypt. She seems very scripted and not at all like a geniune interview. It also doesn't say who she is (unless I've missed it?) and what her credentials are?

Originally posted by kingmonkeyShe seems very scripted and not at all like a geniune interview. It also doesn't say who she is (unless I've missed it?) and what her credentials are?

Yes you missed it... read the thread

Pythagoras and the Music of the Spheres

There is geometry in the humming of the strings
... there is music in the spacing of the spheres.



Dartmouth university study course in Sacred Geometry... nice to see it coming back to mainstream college

www.dartmouth.edu...

Pythagoras in the School of Athens



All about numbers and sound vibrations

"... and the whole heaven to be a musical scale and a number... "

Space Sounds Music of the Spheres

www.spacesounds.com...

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Sacred Geometry in the Great Pyramid

Golden Section

The Golden Section is a ratio based on a phi

The Golden Section is also known as the Golden Mean, Golden Ratio and Divine Proportion. It is a ratio or proportion defined by the number Phi ( = 1.618033988749895... )

goldennumber.net...

Squaring the Circle

The height of the GP is to the circumference of its base what the circumference of a circle with that height as radius is




the circumference of a circle is calculated by taking the radius

c=πr²

The circumference of the base of the GP (add length of four sides) is the same distance as a circle drawn using a radius tha same length as the height of the GP

That is about as clear as I can make it without drawings

The whole point of the GP is all about sacred geometry

The Golden Ratio & Squaring the Circle in the Great Pyramid
Dartmouth University course in Sacred Geometry
www.dartmouth.edu...

While we are on Ancient knowledge...

When did the Earth become Round?

We have all heard Columbus set sail to prove the world was round... but sailors of the day knew this was the case

ex]When Christopher Columbus proposed to reach India by sailing west from Spain, he too knew that the Earth was round. India was the source of precious spices and other rare goods, but reaching it by sailing east was difficult, because Africa blocked the way. On a round globe, however, it should also be possible to reach India by sailing west, and this Columbus proposed to do (he wasn't the first one to suggest this

Sometimes the claim is made that those who opposed Columbus thought the Earth was flat, but that wasn't the case at all. Even in ancient times sailors knew that the Earth was round and scientists not only suspected it was a sphere, but even estimated its size.

If you stand on the seashore and watch a ship sailing away, it will gradually disappear from view. But the reason cannot be the distance: if a hill or tower are nearby, and you climb to the top after the ship has completely disappeared, it becomes visible again. Furthermore, if on the shore you watch carefully the way the ship disappears from view, you will notice that the hull vanishes first, while the masts and sails (or the bridge and smokestack) disappear last. It is as if the ship was dropping behind a hill, which in a way is exactly the case, the "hill" being the curve of the Earth's surface.

From NASA
www-istp.gsfc.nasa.gov...

The Greek philosopher Aristotle (384-322 BC) argued in his writings that the Earth was spherical, because of the circular shadow it cast on the Moon, during a lunar eclipse. Another reason was that some stars visible from Egypt are not seen further north The full quotation can be found here.

Aristotle and the round Earth
www-istp.gsfc.nasa.gov...

The Alexandria philosopher Eratosthenes went one step further and actually estimated how large the Earth was. He was told that on midsummer day (June 21) in the town of Syene in southern Egypt (today Aswan, near a huge dam on the river Nile) the noontime Sun was reflected in a deep well, meaning that it was right overhead, at zenith. Eratosthenes himself lived in Alexandria, near the river's mouth, north of Syene, about 5000 stadia north of Syene (the stadium, the size of a sports arena, was a unit of distance used by the Greeks). In Alexandria the Sun on the corresponding date did not quite reach zenith, and vertical objects still threw a short shadow. Eratosthenes established that the direction of the noon Sun differed from the zenith by an angle that was 1/50 of the circle, that is, 7. 2 degrees, and from that he estimated the circumference of the Earth to be 250,000 stadia.

www-istp.gsfc.nasa.gov...

So the Earth was never flat