Grow your own Eyelashes and what Women do for Beauty, page 3

reply to post by Jess_Undefined

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I agree completely. Plus, if you're blind, you can't see how unnaturally pretty you are.

I remember a few years ago a 16 year old girl in Florida died from complications from breast implants. She was 16. Enough said.

I think self esteem is being comfortable with yourself and who you are. If you have to change who you are or how you look to boost your self esteem, that's counterproductive.

reply to post by ravenshadow13

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Thats just sad. That girl wasnt even done growing yet! Why in the world would a developing teenage girl feel the need to go under the knife at 16 years old.

Another thing they dont realize is, its a lifelong thing. Its not like you pay your 5,000 bucks and Vuala! All better. Most breast implants needs to be removed or changed in the matter of 10 years. And almost always have complications over the years. Your constantly putting money into them over the course of your life.

I dont know about these people but I can think of a hundred more better ways to spend my money.

reply to post by Jess_Undefined

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They can also develop infections and things, and occasionally can complicate nursing. I said earlier, as well, that most guys I've spoken to about it feel very negatively towards implants.

Man... 10,000 bucks. I could think of better ways to spend my money, too.

Originally posted by ravenshadow13
reply to post by Jess_Undefined

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I agree completely. Plus, if you're blind, you can't see how unnaturally pretty you are.

I remember a few years ago a 16 year old girl in Florida died from complications from breast implants. She was 16. Enough said.

I think self esteem is being comfortable with yourself and who you are. If you have to change who you are or how you look to boost your self esteem, that's counterproductive.

I remember hearing about that, I live in FL. I couldnt believe a 16 year was even allowed to get them. I went with a friend of mine to get hers and the doctor doesnt even like doing them on 20 year olds but that was his own personal opinion.

What a lot of these girls dont realize is the problems you WILL have later on down the road from breast implants. Believe me I know many girls in my line of work who have got them and later regretted it due to problems. Its not something you do once and then forget about. You are supposed to get check ups every few years and many times have them redone and new bags put in and that cost money, money most dont have every few years and most dont think its necessary. I had a good friend of mine get really sick form hers because she didnt do what was needed for the up keep. I would never in a million years get that done. I have even heard of girls getting breast implants as graduation presents and that really makes me sick.

So I'm 5 days late to the thread, but I wanted to comment anyway.

If you look at Now_Then signature, he sums up pretty well why this will be popular.

Advertising in a nutshell.(courtesy of the good people at the Mitchell and Webb show)...
Women: You are leaking, ageing, hairy, overweight and everything hurts.... and your children’s clothes are filthy. No wonder men long for other less clammy women - for god's sake sort your selves out.
Men: Shave and get drunk – because you’re already brilliant....

As was already discussed, women are continually made to feel inferior by the media. This is just one more insecurity to create, then meet the demand for. How many females do you think will suddenly decide they need better eyelashes at all costs?

reply to post by Moshpet

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I see what you mean. But we werent talking about chemotherapy patients. We were talking about normal healthy everyday people. I dont see a problem with a chemotherapy patient wanting to grow there lashes back. But if your perfectly normal and already HAVE lashes, theres no need to potentially go blind or get permanent skin darkening and retina discoloring just for longer lashes.

reply to post by Moshpet

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They have Brook Shields as their marketing model. Something is wrong, there. She never had cancer. She had normal eyelashes.

I said the thing about the chemotherapy, too. But that's really not how they're marketing it.

And I agree with you, an0maly... it is a mask. It's not how you really look. Anyone who thinks otherwise is really confused.

reply to post by AmethystSD

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I also wear makeup because I'm used to it. I personally could never just "stop."

If you don't wear makeup, you get ignored. The more you wear (to a point), the more positive attention you get.

reply to post by Lolliek

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And that's a good thing!

But the fact that they're marketing it to healthy individuals...

reply to post by geek101

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No, you're completely right. I do things that I know are wrong and that I am morally against. But it's really hard at my age to find friends who still want to be seen with you, to find boyfriends who understand.

It's awful but I don't want to be "that girl."

If there was a way for us to all make the change at once, I'd be all for it. But the truth is that people aren't going to follow in my example, they will just think less of me because I don't look the way I "should."

People say if you don't put effort into how you look by buying makeup, shaving all the time, whatever, that you're a slob. Even if you take care of yourself.

I think that, if I ever get a job in field work (like I'd prefer), I would abandon the whole beauty thing entirely. But at this point, I won't. It's harder to make friends, in my case, if I don't stick on the eyeliner.

It's very competitive and unfortunately, beauty ranks higher than intelligence in some situations. It's wrong. I don't like it. But I refuse to be called names and lose friends because I "let myself go."

If you ask other girls, many will tell you the same thing. It's an awful cycle, and I doubt there's a way for everyone to get out of it. If I stop wearing makeup, I don't encourage others to do so. Instead, I may become the "outcast" and people will continue wearing makeup to be better than me, and because they may see the way people would treat me and go "I won't want to be treated like that."

So, essentially, I don't know how much of that is exaggerating or not, but I'm not about to ditch my makeup to find out. Unless ATS endorsed me and a bunch of people paid me and I had all my friends sign forms. But even then it would be a stretch.

I know that my mom went all natural in the 60s, but then it was more accepted. Now it's like, oh, you don't go tanning? You don't wax? You're hideous.

I stand proud for all the things I haven't done, and the limited modifications (temporary) that I do to my body. So really, maybe you should be talking to the people who are getting cosmetic surgery. I'm on the lesser end of the scale.

Edit- People tell me that I'm pretty but my self-esteem is very low. So I don't think that I am. I don't like to go out with my curly hair and glasses. It's just a thing. I also know that my boyfriend feels like I don't have to make these physical changes, but I somehow don't always believe him when he's like "Babe, you look fine."

[edit on 8/2/2009 by ravenshadow13]

reply to post by ravenshadow13

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I do understand your point, honestly. Especially in this day and age (i'm 38 btw), the pressure is terrible. When i was your age, it didn't matter so much, celebrities weren't all over the place back then, if you wanted to read about celebrities, you bought a specific magazine, if you could find one. Now it's all so in your face. And yes, it must be hard.

I have a 12yr old daughter and as much as i try to steer her into a way of thinking that beauty is only skin deep, i know that she'll end up thinking otherwise (at least for a while) because everywhere she looks, people are telling her otherwise.

For what its worth, i think you are a very pretty young lady. And if people thought less of you for not wearing make-up, then those people aren't worth ****.
"Those that matter, don't mind.....those that mind, don't matter."

I know, i know, it's easy for me to tell you all this stuff but you are at that age where you will be concerned about how you look. Just remember....you are at least aware that it's all a con. You have that going for you. Alot of people your age don't even see it for what it is. So kudos to that.

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