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Topic started on 11-2-2003 @ 07:03 PM by The Real Deal
Reasonable activity of an alien civilization showed up
unexpectedly close to us.
However, we were not psychologically ready for it.

We still come across publications trying to find an answer to
the following questions: Are we alone in the universe? Is there Alien Life?

The presence of reasoning beings has been detected
close to our home, on the Moon. However, this discovery was
immediately classified as secret, as it is so incredible that
it even might shake the already existing social principles.


The information is not new but the argument still goes on!!


Here is an extract from the official press-release: ìNASA
scientists and engineers participating in exploration of Mars
and the Moon reported the results of their discoveries at a
briefing at the Washington National Press Club on March 21,
1996. It was announced for the first time that man-made
structures and objects have been discovered on the Moon.î The
scientists spoke rather cautiously and evasively about these
objects, with the exception of an UFO. They always mentioned
that the man-made objects are possible, and stated the
information was still under study and official results will be
published later.

It was mentioned at the briefing as well that the Soviet Union
used to own some photo materials proving the presence of such
activity on the Moon. And, although it wasnít identified what
kind of activity it was, thousands of photo- and video
materials from the Apollos and the Clementine space station
showed many parts on the lunar surface where this activity and
its traces were perfectly evident. The video films and photos
made by US astronauts during the Apollo program were
demonstrated at the briefing. People were extremely surprised
why the materials hadnít been presented to the public earlier.
NASA specialists answered: ìIt was difficult to forecast the
reaction of people to information that some creatures had been
or still are on the Moon. In addition, there were some other
reasons to it, which were beyond the control of NASA.î

Specialist for lunar studies Richard Hoagland says that NASA
is still trying to alter photo materials before they are
published in public catalogues and files. They do some
retouching or are partially refocussing them while copying.
Some investigators, Hoagland is among them, suppose that an
extraterrestrial race had used the Moon as a terminal station
during their activity on the Earth. These suggestions are
confirmed by the legends and myths of different nations of our
planet.

The ruins of lunar cities stretch for many kilometers. Huge
domes on massive basements, numerous tunnels, and other
constructions cause scientists to reconsider their opinions
concerning the Moon. How the Moon appeared and principles of
its revolving around the Earth still pose a great problem for
scientists.

Some partially destroyed objects on the lunar surface canít be
placed among natural geological formations, as they are of
complex organization and geometrical structure. In the upper
part of Rima hadley, not far from the place where the
Apollo-15 had landed, a construction surrounded by a tall
D-shaped wall was discovered. As of now, different artifacts
have been discovered in 44 regions. The NASA Goddard Space
Flight Center and the Houston Planetary Institute are
investigating the regions. Mysterious terrace-shaped
excavations of rock have been discovered near the Tiho crater.
The concentric hexahedral excavations and the tunnel entry on
the terrace side canít be the results of natural geological
processes; instead, they look very much like open cast mines.
A transparent dome raised above the crater edge was discovered
near the crater Copernicus. The dome is unusual, as it is
glows white and blue from the inside. A rather unusual object,
which is unusual indeed even for the Moon, was discovered in
the upper part of the Factory area. A disk of about 50 meters
in diameter stands on a square basement surrounded with walls.
In the picture, close to the rhomb, we can also see a dark,
round embrasure in the ground, which resembles an entry to an
underground caponier. There is a rectangular area between
factory and the crater Copernicus, which is 300 meters wide
400 meters long.
Apollo-10 astronauts took a photo (AS10-32-4822) of a one-mile
long object called "Castle," which is at the height of 14
kilometers and casts a distinct shadow on the lunar surface.
The object seems to consist of several cylindrical units and a
large conjunctive unit. The internal porous structure of the
Castle is clearly seen in one of the pictures, which gives the
impression that some parts of the object are transparent.

As it turned out at the briefing where many NASA scientists
were present, when Richard Hoagland had requested originals of
the Castle pictures for the second time, no pictures were
found at all. They disappeared even from the list of pictures
made by the Apollo-10 crew. Only intermediate pictures of the
object were found in the archives, which unfortunately donít
depict the internal structure of the object.

When the Apollo-12 crew landed on the lunar surface, they saw
that the landing was observed by a half-transparent, pyramidal
object. It was hovering just several meters above the lunar
surface and shimmered with all the colors of the rainbow
against the black sky.

In 1969, when the film about astronauts travelling to the Sea
of Storms was demonstrated (the astronauts saw the strange
objects once again, which were later called ìstriped
glassesî), NASA finally understood what consequences such kind
of control could bring. Astronaut Mitchell answered the
question about his feelings after his successful return: ìMy
neck still aches as I had to constantly turn my head around,
because we felt we were not alone there. We had no choice but
to pray.î Johnston, who worked at the Houston Space Center and
studied photos and video materials made during the Apollo
program, discussed the artifacts with Richard Hoagland and
said that the NASA leadership was awfully annoyed with the
great number of anomalous, to put it mildly, objects on the
Moon. It was even said that piloted flights to the Moon might
be banned.

Investigators are especially interested in ancient structures
resembling partially destroyed cities. Photos reveal a number of
astonishingly regular geometry of square and rectangular
constructions. They resemble our cities seen from the height
of 5-8 kilometers. A mission control specialist commented on
the pictures: ìOur guys observed ruins of the Lunar cities,
transparent pyramids, domes, and God knows what else, which
are currently hidden deep inside the NASA safes, and felt like
Robinson Crusoe when he suddenly came across prints of bare
feet on the sand of the desert island.î What do geologists and
scientists say after studying the pictures of lunar cities and
other anomalous objects? They say that such objects canít be
natural formations. ìWe should admit they are artificial,
especially the domes and pyramids.î

Is the truth out there?


reply posted on 12-2-2003 @ 12:10 AM by Skeptical Believer
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There are 2 reasons why I think this "could" very well be true
and fact. I have looked into this a bit also in the past and I am still digging
a bit. I wish I could find a good source for the amateur ham radio recordings
during the Apollo flights days.



Reason 1= Back in the late 60s before the 1969 landing on the moon. NASA
and US Gov had "BIG" plans for the moon. They wanted to build bases and all
sorts of GREAT ideas were planned starting with the first landing. The plans
they were taking about made good common sense from the laymen point of view to
open the doors to explore not only the moon but the earth as well. If you think
about it, the moon bases could have been the "great teacher" to us in being able
to reach Mars then the stars. We could have learned to mine the moon using the
mines also as a home away from home. To me, it seems so much could have been
learned by building moon bases. And it also seems like good sense to start there
first. But it all "STOPPED" and all sorts of reasons were given why. Hell, I
read one report that simply stated, there is nothing more to learn there. LOL.




What is rumored to have happened is:

We were warned off and told to stay away by the "ones" who are already there. If
the story of "the warning" is true, that would explain the sudden stop and
change of climate in NASA thinking. And if NASA had continued despite that
warning the risk of harm and God knows what else may have taken place. It sort
of all fits in a strange kind of way.



Reason 2= It makes perfect sense if we are being visited for a specific
reason and have been for a long time for that "stuff" to exist on the moon.
After all, they would need a base of operations. And because some of that stuff
looked like it had been there for a long time, that would support the thinking
that whom ever they are, they have been doing this for a long time also. After
all, what a better hiding place then the dark side of the moon.:-)






reply posted on 13-2-2003 @ 03:14 AM by Skeptical Believer
What's interesting to me is not so much the photos taken by the Apollo missions because most of them were eather fixed to show nothing by NASA or fixed to show something by Photo fakers. (God, I wish people would stop doing that). but rather, the Radio signals that were being picked up by Ham Radio operaters. Nasa was not only using a delay to filter out "unwanted" or "hide" infomation from the live public transmissions but they would "Bleep" out parts or huge chunks on the conversations to the American public.

However, the sneeky little guys with Ham radio sets were picking up the real deal and with out the "Bleeps" LOL Below is a text of the conversations between mission control and the astronauts. I have heard this tape also aswell as others but lost the links. If anybody knows where to get the ham radio audio files, please post a link.



Apollo Moon astronauts were often followed to the Moon, at times, by U.F.O's. Official N.A.S.A. Apollo 12 photograph AS12-497319clearly Shows a large U.F.O. hovering over an astronaut walking on the Moon.

The government agencies policies of keeping U.F.O's secret from the general public is well-known and has been well-documented in several books by famous astronomers like J. Allen Hynek (who investigated U.F.O's for the U.S. Air Force, Major Donald Keyhoe, Timothy Good (in his book Above Top Secret), and many other professionals. One unquestionably absolute expert we may want to consult is Christopher Kraft, who was director of the N.A.S.A. tracking base in Houston during the Apollo Moon missions, when he revealed the following conversation "after" he left his work at N.A.S.A.:

ASTRONAUTS NEIL ARMSTRONG and BUZZ ALDRIN speaking from the Moon:
"Those are giant things. No, no, no .... this is not an optical illusion. No one is going to believe this!"

MISSION CONTROL (HOUSTON CENTER): "What...what...what? What the hell is happening? What's wrong with you?"

ASTRONAUTS: "They're here under the surface."

MISSION CONTROL: "What's there? Emission interrupted...interference control calling Apollo II."

ASTRONAUTS: "We saw some visitors. They were there for awhile, observing the instruments."

MISSION CONTROL: "Repeat your last information."

ASTRONAUTS: "I say that there were other spaceships. They're lined up on the other side of the crater."

MISSION CONTROL: "Repeat...repeat!"

ASTRONAUTS: "Let us sound this orbit a ..... In 625 to5...automatic relay connected...My hands are shaking so badly I can't do anything. Film it? God, if these damned cameras have picked up anything..what then?"

MISSION CONTROL: "Have you picked up anything?"

ASTRONAUTS: "I didn't have any film at hand. Three shots of the saucers or whatever they were that were ruining the film."

MISSION CONTROL: "Control, control here. Are you on your way? Is the uproar with the U.F.O's. over?

ASTRONAUTS: "They've landed there. There they are and they are watching us."

MISSION CONTROL: "The mirrors, the mirrors...have you set them up?" ASTRONAUTS: "Yes, they're in the right place. But whoever made those space ships surely can come tomorrow and remove them. Over and out."


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reply posted on 13-2-2003 @ 05:41 PM by The Real Deal
A reason for why you cannot see most of the anomiltys is because they are on the darkside....

Try these out
www.cmf.nrl.navy.mil...
www.lunaranomalies.com...



The Ley Line

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1949. Two years after Roswell and Mt. Rainier. In the mounting bliss of the Baby-Boom, one science Fiction writer cast his thoughts into the future; a future that he expected us all to be sharing in by now. The following excerpts from "The Conquest Of Space" by Willy Ley, speak of a Moon strange and mysterious,
a Moon reached by spaceships, a Moon awaiting the inevitable touch of Man.
Dale Ferguson; a writer in his own right, alerted Planetary Mysteries to the optimism and adventure underlying this brave new world, and we; from our vantage point in the world of the future where all this should have come to pass by now, gladly share it with you. Optimism and adventure are still alive and well thank you very much, but perhaps the operative phrase should have been "We'll never know until WE get there."


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FuIl moon is not the best time for observing. When the sun rises or sets over the lunar landscape, the rims of the ringwalls cast long shadows which betray their shape. But when the moon is full to us and the sun stands vertically over maria and mountains, everything iooks flat and only differences of color show in a virtually featureless picture. However, on the moon's northern hemisphere, in that "classical corner;" there is the large crater of Plato. Sunrise over Plato is just like sunrise over any other crater. But as the dividing line between darkness and light, the terminator, advances, the floor of Plato grows darker. At high noon it looks like an inkspot. What happens in the crater of Plato; Evaporation of moisture forming a light-absorbing mist? Or just melting ice? Or crystals with freakish optical qualities? The mystery of Plato has recently deepened further, because the most active group of planetary observers today, beaded by W. H. Haas*, contradicts the by now almost traditional assertion that Plato Iooks gray at lunar sunrise and black at lunar noon. It is highly unIikely that all the older observers have been wrong; after all, they were not talking about a minor detail but about a very.conspicuous feature, it is eaualIv unlikelv that the modern observers are mistaken. One has to conclude, therefore, that a change of some kind has taken place.
Just what is going on there, or has been going on, is a question which the second era of astronomy, the telescopic era, cannot answer. The answer will. have to wait for the third era with its spaceships.
*W. H. Haas prepared a list of twenty-two changes on the moon during 1000 hours ofobserving time which he is convinced are real and which he tentatively atbibutes to vegetation



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Some 70 miles west of Plato, in the middle of the "Alps," there is the Great VaIley, about 90 miles long and up to 6.5 miles wide. It runs almost at right angles to the few and very small other valleys of the "Alps." Its floor is smooth, to the best of observational evidence. And we have ho explana tion for it at all. One might think of a meteorite some 6 miles in diameter grazing the moon and plowing through the mountains, except that the valley, while straight, does not seem quite straight enough for such.an explanation. And why is its floor smooth? We'll never know until we get there.

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Then there is, of course, Gruithuisen's old puzzle of the "lunar fortress" to be solved. And the problem of the bright surface of the crater Aristarchus, which looks just like the plaster of Paris craters Dr. Wegener made in his laboratory. There are Professor William H. Pickering's observations. He thinks he saw a snowstorm on Mount Pico which would indicate sonething like a thin temporary atmosphere in that vicinity. South of the Mare Imbrium in which Pico is situated, there is the crater Eratosthenes. If it were not for Pickering, Eratosthenes would be regarded as a medium-sized, very typical, and very beautiful crater. But Pickering repeatedly observed grayish spots moving around inside the crater. Cloud formations betraying the presence of moisture or lunar vegetation springing up and being killed off by the heat of the sun in a rapid cycle? We'll never know until we get there.



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Near the rim of the moon there is the crater Wargentin. It too would be a normal crater in every respect if it were not for the fact that it is full. The crater is literally brimful. And flat. The color is about the same as elsewhere,. as far as one can observe, but observation is difficult in this case because the crater is near the rim. Did a meteorite break through the crust? Did this form the crater or was there a later impact in an existing crater? The latter seems more likely: it is hard to imagine that a meteorite that broke through the crust could simultaneously produce a typicaI crater.

Then there is the great "walled plain" of Clavius, well over 150 miles srcross. Since it was formed, seven smaller meteorites have scored hits on its ringwll, and there are four major and half a dozen minor impact craters in its interior. Obviously they are younger than Clavius since thev are super-imposed upon it. But they also look younger. The old walls look as if they had been subiected to erosion. This is true for a few other walled plains too. What kind of erosion?

And finally we have the mystery of IinnÈ, a crater named after Karl von LinnÈ (known in this country under the Latinized version of his name, Linnaeus) and situated in the Mare serenitatis. LinnÈ shows up against the dark mare plain as a whitish spot, Iooking aIike through the whole lunar day, too low to cast a noticeable shadow. A few astronomers beginning in about 1890 claimed that, under exceptional seeing conditions and with a big instrument, a tiny hole could ba discerned in the center of the white spot. But Schmidt, in 1843, described LinnÈ as a crater some 6 miles across, and an estimated 1200 feet deep. He and several other astronomers of his period used LinnÈ as a Iandmark in the otherwise smooth. mare plain, a reference point for measurements. Nobody would use it now for this purpose, even thouph it stands alone on the mare plain, nor is Schmidt's description even remotely correct. But neither does there seem any chance for a mistake, since Linne does stand isolated and the position of the white spot of today agrees with the position given in 1843.

Is LinnÈ a real volcano that was active some time between 1860 and 1890?

Some day we'll be able to fnd out, a FEW YEARS after the first spaceship lands on the moon.



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During the late evening hours of the twelfth of July, 1822, a Munich astronomer, Franz von Paula Gruithuisen, examined an area close to the center of the visible half of the moon. There is a rill in that area, usually called the Hyginus rill because it runs through the crater Hyginus in the southern portion of the Mare vaporum. Near the Hyginus rill there is a formation which on German maps is marked Schneckenberg (Snail Mountain) because it resembles the upper portion of an enormous snail, half covered by mud or tar.' The whole area in fact, gives such an impression: at some distance there are mountains which look as if they might be the upper ridges and Peaks of ranges whose lower portions had been buried in a viscous liquid that later hardened. The formation as a whole looks strange enough to seem artificial. Gruithuisen did not hesitate to say that it was artificial. He took it to be the ruins of an old fortress that had once guarded a city.

After an interval of breathlessness which followed Gruithuisen's announcement, other observers, especially Gruithuisen's compatriot Madler, tried to criscredit the "fortress of the selenites." Gruithuisen had published a drawing of the spot. Maidler did too. Gruithuisen had drawn the ruins of a fortress and a city. Madler drew an irregular pattern of mountain ridges crossing one another. In fairness one must say that each exaggerated in the direction of what he wanted to prove. The formations are bv no means as regular and "convincing" as Gruithuisen showed them. Nor is the landscape as featureless as Madler drew it. In the telescope it simply fails to make sense. The final word will have to be spoken in the third era of astronomy, when an explorer can stand at the foot of Snail Mountain and look at the formation through the transparent plastic of his air helmet.

Taken fromwww.planetarymysteries.com/moon/leylinehtml


The thing is there is definatley something on the moon what it is will we ever know.Or can it be proven that we are wrong reguardless of the evidence there already is and the amount of research going on..
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