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Texas Gov. Perry raises possibility of states' rights showdown with White House over healthcare

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posted on Jul, 24 2009 @ 12:03 PM
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Texas Gov. Perry raises possibility of states' rights showdown with White House over healthcare


www.star-telegram.com

Gov. Rick Perry, raising the specter of a showdown with the Obama administration, suggested Thursday that he would consider invoking states’ rights protections under the 10th Amendment to resist the president’s healthcare plan, which he said would be "disastrous" for Texas.
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posted on Jul, 24 2009 @ 12:04 PM
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I love Texas. One of the great states in the union. I lived there for a few years back in my Army days. Beautiful land and great people. I may consider moving back there again. They have a strong leader and I support him.


In expressing "unwavering support" for the 10th Amendment resolution by state Rep. Brandon Creighton, R-Conroe, Perry said "federal government has become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of our citizens and its interference with the affairs of our state."


Governor Perry is right the federal government has become opperssive in size and authority. I can only hope that other states will join him in invoking their 10th amendment rights.


www.star-telegram.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

[edit on 7/24/2009 by Erasurehead]



posted on Jul, 24 2009 @ 12:26 PM
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This would be awesome. Hopefully they do invoke states rights and tells the gov to take a hike on the health care package, if it passes.

I'll have to pop some popcorn and watch the fireworks. I think if Texas stands up other states will follow.

Could we be looking at the beginning of the end?



posted on Jul, 24 2009 @ 12:55 PM
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Perry said "federal government has become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of our citizens and its interference with the affairs of our state."

I think this quote sums it up.



posted on Jul, 24 2009 @ 12:58 PM
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I wish Mike Beebe would grow a pair and stand up to the Feds. But sadly, he is a Democrat, and in Obama's pocket.



posted on Jul, 24 2009 @ 01:02 PM
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Wow, could be that Gov Perry would support Democrat Rep Dennis Kucinich's amendment ?

Strange bedfellows?



posted on Jul, 24 2009 @ 01:11 PM
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God Bless America..
I am happy to live in Texas....Don't trust anything the Fed does.
I'm sure you all think they are out to destroy us....it's getting more obvious everyday.



posted on Jul, 24 2009 @ 01:11 PM
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I love Texas. One of the great states in the union.

Sure I as well..........But don't let the right hand fool you in what their left hand is doing.............Rick Perry is a Bilderberg member or at least has attended meetings as a guest.

Don't be fooled...........



posted on Jul, 24 2009 @ 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by GuyverUnit I



Perry said "federal government has become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of our citizens and its interference with the affairs of our state."

I think this quote sums it up.


Add this to all the State posturing on Gun control. The ATF writing letters to Federal Firearms Dealers saying their authority overrides that of the states. The 33 or so states that have legislation either passed or pending that authorize the state to secede or arrest Federal officials trying to enforce laws that are unconstitutional and in opposition of state laws.

I would certainly say things are at a slow boil!

Add the recent racial comment by Obama, the falling popularity, the re-signing of Bush's orders that he promised to overturn, the he-said/she-said diplomacy with N.K. and we have ourselves a full-scale pressue cooker!

I gotta get more bullets!



posted on Jul, 24 2009 @ 01:17 PM
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We need more Gov. like this and Montana,Tennesee. We are in for some historic times and im going to get a front row seat if I can. If you like what you are starting to see then you may love this guy. This is from chuckbaldwinlive.com "Let It Come!" by Chuck Baldwin July 21, 2009

During Patrick Henry's famous "Give me liberty or give me death" speech, he said the following:

"Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth and listen to the song of that siren, till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst and to provide for it."

Later in his historic speech Henry said, "Three millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, Sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, Sir, is not to the strong alone. It is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, Sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable. And let it come! I repeat it, Sir, let it come!"

Of course, Henry ended his stirring speech with the immortal words, "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"

(The complete text of Patrick Henry's immortal address on March 23, 1775, is found in my giant compilation of great, historic documents called THE FREEDOM DOCUMENTS, which may be ordered exclusively at www.chuckbaldwinlive.com... )

Many people today (including the vast majority of my Christian brethren) are doing exactly what Patrick Henry said many were doing 234 years ago: they prefer to "shut [their] eyes against a painful truth." Just as in 1775, many today, "having eyes, see not, and having ears, hear not."

Serious students of history, however, cannot mistake the similarities between the British Crown in 1775 and the federal government in Washington, D.C., today. In fact, I would argue that federal usurpations of State sovereignty, personal liberty, and constitutional government are far more egregious today than at any time during the reign of old King George III. Were America's Founding Fathers alive today, they would have waged another war for independence years ago. Compared to the violations of liberty by the federal government in 2009, the abridgements of liberty committed by the Crown in 1775 were miniscule. We should all hang our heads in shame that we have not already exerted our right and responsibility as free people to "throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for [our] future security" (Declaration of Independence, Paragraph 2). Were we as righteous as our forebears, we would have already done so.

If we were writing a Declaration of Independence today, in which we would "let Facts be submitted to a candid world," the examples of federal abuse of power would be so multitudinous it would be difficult to contain them to a single document. The question is not, "Has the current federal government become tyrannical?" The question is, "How long will the States continue to tolerate it?"

For example, within the last couple of months, the States of



posted on Jul, 24 2009 @ 01:18 PM
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Montana and Tennessee have each passed their own "Firearms Freedom Act." Briefly stated, the bills provide that any firearms or ammunition that are manufactured, sold, and kept within the State are not subject to federal law or federal regulation. Clearly, Montana and Tennessee have the Second, Ninth, and Tenth Amendments to the U.S. Constitution on their side.

Of course, the Constitution doesn't matter to the federal government. On July 16 of this year, BATFE Assistant Director Carson Carroll sent an "Open Letter" to all firearms dealers within the States of Tennessee and Montana, telling them in no uncertain terms, "Federal law supersedes the [Tennessee or Montana] Act, and all provisions of the Gun Control Act and the National Firearms Act, and their corresponding regulations, continue to apply."

You see folks, in the minds of the politicians and bureaucrats in Washington, D.C., there is no such thing as constitutional government. There is no such thing as State autonomy. There is no such thing as balance of power. To the miscreants in Washington, D.C., there is only federal authority. To them, these States United are merely colony-subjects, who must bow to an omnipotent, ubiquitous federal power that knows no limits and no boundaries.

I hope and pray that the Tennessee and Montana governors, State legislatures, and State supreme courts will tell Mr. Carroll "where to go," and will defend their State sovereignties "to the end." And by the same token, I hope and pray that dozens more states will put teeth to their State Sovereignty resolutions and follow the examples of Montana and Tennessee.

Add to the continual usurpations of State sovereignty the fact that both the Republican and Democratic parties in Washington, D.C., have allowed our once-great free enterprise system to become a giant socialist economy, and the outlook only gets bleaker. This is why Republicans in D.C. have no moral credibility in opposing President Barack Obama's Marxist-style universal health care proposals. Under George W. Bush, the Republican Party expanded socialism in America like no administration in recent history. Now they are going to oppose the Democrat version of socialism? What a joke!

The only difference between the economic policies of the Democrats and Republicans in Washington, D.C., is Democrats want to tax-and-spend America into socialism for the benefit of the Welfare State, while Republicans want to borrow-and-spend America into socialism for the benefit of the Warfare State. Neither party wants to confine Washington, D.C., to the prescribed limits of the U.S. Constitution. And neither party in Washington, D.C., is willing to recognize the constitutional authority and autonomy of the States United.

Given the fact that both parties are hell-bent on destroying constitutional government, dismantling State sovereignty, and trampling individual liberties, it seems painfully obvious to me that a war for State independence is inevitable. Just exactly what that means is unknown at this point, but all of the elements and ingredients that existed in 1775 exist today. In fact, in view of the battle currently taking place between Nashville/Helena and Washington, D.C., the war has--for all intents and purposes--already begun. And unlike many of my Christian brethren who want to "shut [their] eyes against a painful truth," I say with Patrick Henry, "Let it come! I repeat it, Sir, let it come!"
Thanks for reading!!!!



posted on Jul, 24 2009 @ 01:32 PM
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I was just coming into this thread to bring that up. lol

He attended the 2007 Bilderberg Group meeting in Turkey. He also issued an executive order that made the HPV vaccine mandatory for girls in 2007. However, fortunately he overturned the order months later, the same month he attended the Bilderberg meeting.

He also attended the tax day tea party protests in 2009. Then now we have him going up against Obama.

I'm not sure if his attendance at the BG meeting made him realize what was going on so he therefore started to fight against TPTB or what not.

Mixed signals for sure. He stayed at my parent's place at the beach before and from what I know of him, he's genuinely for the people. To me, what it sounds like is that he had some sort of wake-up episode.

He has always been a conservative but it does appear like the fire has been lit under his behind lately to oppose the ever-growing size of the government. I'm keeping my eyes on it, though, because you never know.



posted on Jul, 24 2009 @ 01:42 PM
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Be interesting to see where this one goes and if any other states decide to do the same thing.




posted on Jul, 24 2009 @ 01:42 PM
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He also attended the tax day tea party protests in 2009. Then now we have him going up against Obama.

I know he showed up at the party, but wasn't he turned away, or at least prevented from speaking? The Republican Congressman was prevented from speaking as well!

Something about, "This isn't about the politicians, this is about the people!"

I could be wrong. I think he is one of the better governors in the country right now.



posted on Jul, 24 2009 @ 01:46 PM
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We aren't that lucky.

About the only thing that's drawing resistance in El Dorado is Cap and Trade.


 
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posted on Jul, 24 2009 @ 01:56 PM
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He was a featured guest speaker at the Tax Day protests (April 15th):

www.huffingtonpost.com...

This is when he said:


"We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."


The people loved him for that but the liberal critics tore him to shreds.

Then at the Independence Day protests (July 4th), he and a congressman received boos. It looks like Perry got them due to the fact he was appearing at the rally to protest taxes but was wanting to add toll roads to the highway system to relieve traffic congestion and the congressman received boos for voting in support of the Bailout:

thinkprogress.org...

Again, more mixed signals.

[edit on 7/24/2009 by AshleyD]



posted on Jul, 24 2009 @ 02:00 PM
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I think what it is going to come down too is the people rejecting it. The Gov. is still a politician and they all have a rep. of saying one thing and doing another.

What I think is a possible scenario is gov's like this guy acting like he is on the side of the people when SHTF and then when things calm down nothing has changed.

Maybe, I don't know, we will just have to wait and see.



posted on Jul, 24 2009 @ 02:43 PM
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uspatriot109,

Very good, well written. You have inspired me to change my signature to the Patrick Henry "Give me liberty or give me death" quote.



posted on Jul, 24 2009 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by Cloudsinthesky
reply to post by Erasurehead
 


I love Texas. One of the great states in the union.

Sure I as well..........But don't let the right hand fool you in what their left hand is doing.............Rick Perry is a Bilderberg member or at least has attended meetings as a guest.

Don't be fooled...........


I don't think he is a member but he did attend some meetings. I still agree with his stance on this subject.

I like how he put the heat on the Texas House and Senate members.

Perry called on Texans in the House and Senate to oppose the plan. "I can’t imagine that anyone from Texas who cares about this state would vote for Obama Care. I don’t care whether you’re Democrat or Republican," he said.

Of those Texans who might consider supporting the plan, he said: "This may sound a little bit harsh, but they might ought to consider representing some other state because they’re sure not representing Texas."



posted on Jul, 24 2009 @ 09:16 PM
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I agree with him on that last quote. Texas is a very different state and it has its very own culture. If You commit a crime in Texas You will pay and You will do the time. If someone broke in to a house next door to Yours and You shot the POS coming out the window the citizens would cheer for You and call You a hero. I love the attitude of the people especially with crime. If any state would tell the federal government to get lost it would have to be Texas.


Oh before anyone says it the Bushes were not Texans they just moved there. I don't even think anyone in the state would even claim them.



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