Obama is rapidly turning this country into a totalitarian regime

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


I can promise you, that if what you say comes to pass.

Any force which is "nationalized" by Obama - especially those guards around our bases which tries to step in to "aid in the taking of our guns" would be wiped out of existence by us. The US military.

Let 'em.

About time we did something besides all this sitting around....

I totally agree. Have you seen how the police acts nowadays? Its a good indicator.



[edit on 25-7-2009 by LyricusMagna]

Originally posted by mf_luder
reply to post by ElectricUniverse

 

I can promise you, that if what you say comes to pass.

Any force which is "nationalized" by Obama - especially those guards around our bases which tries to step in to "aid in the taking of our guns" would be wiped out of existence by us. The US military.

Let 'em.

About time we did something besides all this sitting around....

Good post. I agree.

Good post Electric.
I thought that since I'm a contractor, I could chime in. Was active duty for over a decade, but had to get out due to an injury. Worked in the civilian sector for a while, then got offered a job by a company that does work for the Army. My office is in FT. Detrick MD, though I work at Hill AFB in Utah. I carry a top secret security clearence, as I did in the service. Marg, I agree with you on about 99% of what you say. I have even commented to my bosses about why I am here, and not someone in uniform. Their answer, we can't get/find people to do the job. Irony in that, when I was in the military, I was denied to go TDY because of my knee injury.
Not now.
I go TDY for MONTHS at a time, and am preparing for a nice little trip to Afganistan later this year. Contractors, at least some, fill the slots that the service folks can't. And, yes, we get paid much more than our military counterparts, but we are asked to work and do more than our counterparts as well. Although I can't answer for other contractors or their responsibilities.


As for turning this country into a totalitarian regime, I see it. One item that has been missed in this thread was the Black Panther issue at the voting center during the election. I'll post the link, but long story short, they did not get punished for what they did.

www.huffingtonpost.com...

Obama is taking a page from '1984', from the old USSR, capture the hearts and minds of the young and you can take over without firing a shot. As to whether it is Obama, Rham, TPTB, . . . who ever! Obama is the front man for this little power play.

All I can say is, the more light we shine on these people, the slower they'll have to go.

What a world we live in, -sigh-

Is it to early to start drinking?

Originally posted by Rook1545
Just to try and play Devil's Advocate for a moment, what about this:

A national police force, similar to what ALOT of other countries have. Up in Canada we have RCMP, which actually makes sense, they can pursue any criminal across any Province. This means no more stopping at the state line when the criminal crosses. No more having to get all kinds of warrants and other jurisdictional crap just to pursue someone.

As far as the buildings go, wouldn't it make sense that government buildings are guarded by government security? You guys always complain about the government trying to stick their nose in your business, well isn't having civilian security companies guarding government interests just the opposite? These people are not loyal to what they are protecting, they are loyal to their employer, not exactly what I would call the best security options.

The United States already has a National Criminal Investigations Force, it's called the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Originally posted by vkey08

Originally posted by Rook1545
Just to try and play Devil's Advocate for a moment, what about this:

A national police force, similar to what ALOT of other countries have. Up in Canada we have RCMP, which actually makes sense, they can pursue any criminal across any Province. This means no more stopping at the state line when the criminal crosses. No more having to get all kinds of warrants and other jurisdictional crap just to pursue someone.

As far as the buildings go, wouldn't it make sense that government buildings are guarded by government security? You guys always complain about the government trying to stick their nose in your business, well isn't having civilian security companies guarding government interests just the opposite? These people are not loyal to what they are protecting, they are loyal to their employer, not exactly what I would call the best security options.

The United States already has a National Criminal Investigations Force, it's called the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

And we also have a uniformed government agency that guards government buildings - The Federal Protective Service...

We have everything already that he apparently wants... Why more?

The blame goes squarely on both the politicians and the people. It belongs on everybody. Sure, Obama is a facade, a caricature, an invention, a false projection, a hard-core myopic narcissist. So was Bush, Clinton, Bush Sr., Reagan, etc. However, the people, at a critical mass level, are so superficial, so in denial to anything that might burst their little arrogant reality tunnels, so full of selfish judgment, so narcissistic, that they are bound to elect a representative that is a perfect mirror image of this synthesis of selfishness. Sure, there is likely some fudging going on with elections, some cheating and manipulation, but regardless, the narcissistic masses elect narcissistic representatives, whether they be revolutionaries or reactionaries. With the narcissistic self-machination as a sort of false idol ruling the day, the drama is repeated over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.....ad infinitum........ad nauseum. My myopic interests trump yours, I will revolt, or liberate. My myopic interests trump yours, I will react, or conserve. Dumb [snip] pawns in the divide and conquer game. It is time to clear the chess board, and start a new game.



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[edit on 25/7/09 by masqua]

I am sorry for the profanity. I walked too close to the line. I was trying to insert something that was attention getting to bring a point to a little too sharp of a conclusion.

[edit on 25-7-2009 by orwellianunenlightenment]

reply to post by orwellianunenlightenment


I disagree. yes some people voted for obama because he promised to get them more of the goodies, but the vast majority of people who voted for him did so because they really did want to change the way things were going, that is corruption and watching out mainly for powerful interests. he said he was going to change those things and people ignored his history and gave him the benefit of the doubt. they really thought the best of him. bush had been so villified in the press and elsewhere that people would have voted for any democrat really, but they were especially impressed with obama.

it's turning out badly but i think it was well intended.

i used to have a professor who at some point in almost any class period said, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions."

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


Yes it does, because when the government becomes the biggest employer in the nation it also controls peoples earnings.

How loyal will you be if you job depends on the government, from health care to social programs.

That is what obama is also doing, the more people the government employ the more people will depend on the government.

reply to post by marg6043


just like the old "company" towns where the company owned everything, paid the workers in company scrip that could only be used in company owned enterprises. i read about how that dominated the mining industry. probably others. i believe it was outlawed, but harder to enforce when it's the federal government that's the company.

reply to post by earlywatcher


Exactly, wait when the health care bill starts to become too expensive for the government to handle and will be turn into an entitlement program and deducted from peoples pay checks, like SS, Medicaid and Medicare.

But is all good because is the government rights as an employer and in charge of everything that runs in the nation.



[edit on 25-7-2009 by marg6043]

This is a good post and yes Obama is a Dictator.

Why in the world would we need a national police force that's stronger than the military?

We have the F.B.I., the C.I.A., Homeland Security, the National Guard and the Secret Service. We also have a local police force.

When Obama said this, of course the liberal media didn't ask about this.

Obama wants a local force stronger than the military in order to spy and watch other Americans as the Government takes are rights away.

Obama said in a radio interview in 2001 that the Constitution was fundamentally flawed because it restrains Government and it doesn't talk about redistribution of wealth.

Any President that claims the Constitution is fundamentally flawed because it restrains Government is a Dictator. The Founders restrained Government because they didn't want a king or a government controlling peoples lives. Obama sees this as a flaw.

Obama said he wants to fundamentally transform America.

I don't think people realize they have voted for someone that wants to do away with the Constitution because he sees it as a restraint on government. He thinks the government should be used to bring about political and economic justice as he sees it.

This is truly dangerous.

reply to post by Matrix Rising


when we were hearing about obama, during the campaign, the fact that he was a constitutional lawyer seemed reassuring because we all thought he wanted to know the constitution really well in order to follow it, to use it as a guide. come to find out, he studied it to know how to get around it. to know how divide and conquer and ultimately negate it.

reply to post by earlywatcher


Your exactly right.

In the interview, you can see that Obama understands that the constitution restrains government, he just doesn't like it. He also talks about ways to get around the Constitution.

These are the words of a Dictator. A Dictator doesn't want to be restrained.

This is what Obama meant by Change. People thought he was just talking about changing things in Washington. Obama said he wants to transform America. He wants to change us into something that we are not. He wants to replace the constitution with his way of thinking.

Here's a story about the interview.
www.wnd.com...

I would have linked you to the whole interview but You Tube removed it.

Truly sad.

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
This is not Obama's fault

it's the American People's fault

again they voted for the most popular
and they voted for a facade
they voted for buzzwords with no substance
they voted for change that no one could define

it's mostly the people's fault i'm sorry!

You're actually starting to sound like me after the reality on Bush started to set in ...

Welcome to reality.

Originally posted by xmotex
If this is a totalitarian regime, most of the people posting in this thread would have been hauled off to be shot already.

If you really think this is anything close to a totalitarian regime, you obviously have no idea what a totalitarian regime is.

(here's a hint)

This is exactly what conservatives used to post in answer to all the dems and libs railing about Bush becoming a dictator and taking away our rights.

Reality check:

Bush left office as he was supposed to under the Constitution.

Now about the person (obama) all you libs drank the kool-aid and voted for ...

[edit on 7/25/2009 by centurion1211]

Originally posted by Matrix Rising
reply to post by earlywatcher

 

Your exactly right.

In the interview, you can see that Obama understands that the constitution restrains government, he just doesn't like it. He also talks about ways to get around the Constitution.

These are the words of a Dictator. A Dictator doesn't want to be restrained.

Truly sad.

Who does Obama sound like, his role model if you will?

Of course, Chavez comes to mind. Gets voted in by a democratic process and then goes around dismantling the structure that got him elected in favor of a "more permanent presidency" (dictatorship).

reply to post by mikerussellus



Yeah Mike, but you know as well as I do that many former military personnel become contractors. I know a friend of mine who was in the Army, and then became a contractor for 10 years in the Middle East. It has nothing to do with the Bush administration.

BTW, contractors can be specialists in many fields. My friend was a contractor as an electronics technitian.

Many contractors have been hired for decades because at times there are not enough military personnel with the experience, and or knowledge that former military people have.


[edit on 26-7-2009 by ElectricUniverse]

Originally posted by mf_luder

I can promise you, that if what you say comes to pass.

Any force which is "nationalized" by Obama - especially those guards around our bases which tries to step in to "aid in the taking of our guns" would be wiped out of existence by us. The US military.
..................

Yeah well, except for the fact that quite a few military personnel would love to be given the order to shoot at civilians.

I have trained with sailors, and Marines, as well as training under the wing of NAvy and Marine instructors. There are some fine people in the military but there are also some very dark a-holes.

I have heard some Marine instructors talk about civilians as if civilians are all an underclass, just garbage to be thrown out, and not worth the time of Marines to be defended. I also saw how some of the sailors, and Marines around the instructor kept nodding to all the garbage the instructor was saying about civilians.

There are many good Marine, and Navy instructors, as well as regular enlisted personnel, and officers who would defend civilians, but there are some that would not hesitate to shoot at civilians.

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


Many citizens do not think obama's Totoiletarian regime knows what they are doing. They know exactly what they are doing by taking a part this great nation piece by piece make no mistake.

obama pulled the race card again with sticking his nose where it does not belong with the Professor Gates incident before knowing the facts. I truely believe obama is consumed with his Presidency 1st and the people last. Is Bill Cosby the only one with a level head about the matter? O.K. lets have a beer.

We fear nuclear war and the destruction it can do to human beings and property. No one man in the history of The United States Of America has did so much in such as short period of time that has continued to play havoc with our sacred Republic.

People always bring up the fact obama is the nations first black president. I have to disagree he is half white so what is wrong with saying he is the nations first half black and half white President. Remember white heritage and black heritage and all races are very important to the American people. ^Y^



[edit on 26-7-2009 by amari]