Police: 8-Year-Old Gang-Raped by 4 Boys

Ok I've had enough of this... We don't need to hear this!!!! Someone needs to regulate the media! This is seriously getting way way out of hand.

What am I talking about?

The fear the media is peddling has gone over the top... It is literally driving us INSANE. Don't tell me you don't know what I'm talking about. The symptoms are all around you. How many times have you seen a woman go on a stroll in the park with a huge german shepard or pitbull? When is the last time you've seen someone leave their door unlocked with no one home? How many times have you heard "It's a crazy world out there"? How many people do you know with alarm systems installed in their houses? Lock their car door when they see a bum... Hell, how often do you see someone outside in their front yard having a friendly chat with their neighbor? Not very often right...?

Point is, everybody is so wrapped up in fear it's just ridiculous! The fear is so thick in the air you could cut it with a knife... And stories like this, are the reason people are so damn scared of an otherwise safe outdoors. Your daughter is not going to get raped. Your child's school is not going to get shot up... Relax. When are people going to realize that your fears are just delusions created by the media?

I don't see why chemical castration isn't an imposed form of justice. Those who can only derive sexual satisfaction out of non-consentual violence lose the right to feel sexuality.

Originally posted by Republican08
reply to post by Kaytagg

 

Raping is wrong.

Killing is okay.

No, the state killing people is wrong. Do you really trust the government to not screw up and always kill guilty people? The same government that pays $500 for a hammer? The same government that thinks fluoridating the water is good for our health? The same government that overpays for medicare/medicaid? These people screw up on an hourly basis -- if not more!

Do you really think THAT government is capable of killing the right people, 100% of the time?

All it takes is for the government to kill one innocent person, and that makes us all murderers.

By your logic, that would mean that we would all have to die.

reply to post by AngelHeart


So we should wait and see what other disgusting acts they can come up with?

Rape is more or less a feeling of power.

A cleansing is needed, all rapists, in prison and those to be caught and proven beyond a shadow of a doubt should be killed of instantaneously.

reply to post by Kaytagg


If you're semen is on a 8 year old girl, with lacerations and rips on her genitalia, where you're semen is found.

You're as good as dead.

There of course would be laws, but if it's one hundred percent, you should stop breathing my air, stop eating while others are starving.

I know you're looking out for the small percentage of people that happen to really be innocent.
That doesn't give everyone a free pass.

So by your wanting to keep your hands clean of nearly anything.

Thinks it's better for these rapists (when convicted) to go to a juvenile center, which then they'll get out at 21, then go to a rehabilitiation centre, come back out and get to be near you're family, if not you're family someone else's family.

Or put them in the prison system, where they can fulfill even more of their sexual grotesqe desires on inmates. While you may think, well if you in prison you deserve it, so by that, inmates all deserve to be raped.

If at the least, A surgical removal of the penis and testicles would be fitting besides death, or a sex change operation, and one year in the male prison system. Savvy?

Either way, the law is too soft on them now.

Originally posted by Republican08
reply to post by Kaytagg

 

If you're semen is on a 8 year old girl, with lacerations and rips on her genitalia, where you're semen is found.

You're as good as dead.

There of course would be laws, but if it's one hundred percent, you should stop breathing my air, stop eating while others are starving.

I know you're looking out for the small percentage of people that happen to really be innocent.
That doesn't give everyone a free pass.

So by your wanting to keep your hands clean of nearly anything.

Thinks it's better for these rapists (when convicted) to go to a juvenile center, which then they'll get out at 21, then go to a rehabilitiation centre, come back out and get to be near you're family, if not you're family someone else's family.

Or put them in the prison system, where they can fulfill even more of their sexual grotesqe desires on inmates. While you may think, well if you in prison you deserve it, so by that, inmates all deserve to be raped.

If at the least, A surgical removal of the penis and testicles would be fitting besides death, or a sex change operation, and one year in the male prison system.

Savvy?

Either way, the law is too soft on them now.

Even DNA tests are not 100% accurate, many times samples are mislabeled and other human errors occur that leads to false conviction. There is no perfect system so there should never be a death penalty.

reply to post by Republican08


Or they can just serve a life sentence in prison. A no kidding, you're in jail 'till you die life sentence . Not the "get out when you're 80" life sentence (if there is such a thing. I think the law sometimes skews common sense terminology to mean things other than what they sound like)

I don't want to be part of a society that goes around killing innocent people. You run that risk anytime you sanction state-executions, regardless of what the law says.

If you simply incarcerate them, and later it is found that they are innocent, no harm no foul (well, lots of harm and foul, but at least the victim is still alive).


Besides, death is easy. After they die, then what? Nothing. They're gone. No sentence served, no time to think about what they did. No agonizing life behind bars. Just death. That's easy.

To give a quick example of where the law and reality part, all one has to do is look at OJ Simpson. In the eyes of the law, he's innocent. In "reality," he killed someone.

The same can be true in reverse: In the eyes of the law, you committed a crime and will be killed. In reality, you might not have ever even seen the victim.

Again: Our government screws up all the time. Lets not kill people based on the work of a screwy government.

You guys are way over reacting here. As far as I can tell the charges are "sexual assault" not rape. Did penetration occur? I highly doubt it with 5 people in a small closet space. It seems like fox news is sensationalizing this story to sound like a bit more than it really is. Not saying what the boys did is right, but it's a bit blown out of proportion.

Originally posted by ExPostFacto
You guys are way over reacting here. As far as I can tell the charges are "sexual assault" not rape. Did penetration occur? I highly doubt it with 5 people in a small closet space. It seems like fox news is sensationalizing this story to sound like a bit more than it really is. Not saying what the boys did is right, but it's a bit blown out of proportion.

What is sexual assault?
Sexual assault and abuse is any type of sexual activity that you do not agree to, including:

•Inappropriate touching
•Vaginal, anal, or oral penetration
•Sexual intercourse that you say no to
•Rape
•Attempted rape
•Child molestation


Which one of these do you find ok to be attributed to an 8 year old girl.
Take your time, just pick which seemingly mild form of sexual assault is ok on a 8 year old girl.

I can't see anyone seeing this happen to a 8 year old girl, and call it blown out of proportion.

reply to post by Republican08


They are charged with a crime of "sexual assault." That has a very specific legal definition, and I do not believe penetration is part of that in any way shape or form. Each states crime corpus delicti is slightly different.

Edit: Sexual Assault in the State of Arizona is defined as penetration whether oral, or vaginal. The state does not have a rape law so this is apparently an all inclusive law that covers a few things that other states have separated into different laws.

[edit on 24-7-2009 by ExPostFacto]

"The 9-year-old is facing one count of sexual assault, the 10-year-old is facing charges of kidnapping and 2 counts of sexual assault, the 13-year-old is facing kidnapping and 3 counts of sexual assault, and Tuopeh is facing kidnapping and 2 counts of sexual assault."


I sure as hell knew what I was doing when I was 13-14.

I lost my virginity at 14... but it was a decision I had made with my g/f at the time of 6 months. Mutual.

Luring a little child into a toolshed... is ****'n sick.

These little scumbags, deserve their pipi's cut off... and a lifetime of service in the Vienna Boys Choir.

Originally posted by GioTheGreek


These little scumbags, deserve their pipi's cut off... and a lifetime of service in the Vienna Boys Choir.

How did I know think of that??

reply to post by solarstorm


This seems like something from a cultural activity. Look at all the parents involved. they do not cry, they do not anger. It's as if it is normal to them.

I truly think this is a messed up cultural thing that should be shunned and destroyed.

A danger in immigration. You must make sure their cultures do not support it. it is always wise to teach new immigrants the basics of modern society and what is normal and what is disgusting.

It is estimated that as much as 40 percent of the population of Liberia practices either Christianity or Christianity combined with elements of traditional indigenous religious beliefs. Approximately 40 percent exclusively practices traditional indigenous religious beliefs. An estimated 20 percent of the population practices Islam. A small percentage is Bahá'í, Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist, or atheist.

Religion in Liberia

I'm not sure where this poor little girl fit in.. or from which piece of the religious pie chart her family is from, but does it really matter? What are they thiking!? This baffles me and angers me.

Your child, molested, at 8, that should be enough to drive you mad- not drive you into shame.

Yeah I'm with Republican08 on this and agree with killing all rapists. They are rapists for christ sakes. I put rapists even below most murderers. They are the SCUM of the earth. Especially if they are child rapists. Even though the rapists where kids themselves they still raped a child and its not acceptable at all. These people can't be rehabilitated. They deserve the worst death known to man.

If this kid goes to prison and is put in with general population hes good as dead anyways. Even the most hardened criminals dont like child rapists and they kill them all the time in prison.

I'm not exactly for the death penalty and I know the gov wrongly imprisons a lot of people. but I have no sympathy for rapists and wish them the worst if its proved beyond a shadow of a doudt they raped someone.

I remember when I was these kids age I was holding my first girlfriends hand and kissing her cheek and doing sweet innocent stuff like that. People are so messed up now if they can RAPE another kid, thats freaking horrible. Where do these kids even get the idea of rape in their brains? Its disgusting. I blame the parenting. To many people nowadays who shouldnt have children.

Bottom line is I have a young daughter and I dont like knowing theres people like this out there. I dont even wanna say what I'd do to them if this happened to my daughter... it wouldnt be pretty.

These arent some innocent kids. They are scum, the lowest of the low and they knew exactly what they were doing.




[edit on 24-7-2009 by jeasahtheseer]

[edit on 24-7-2009 by jeasahtheseer]

It is really sad that this world has come to a place where children are raping children. When i was growing up 9-10 year old boys didn't want anything to do with girls, they just wanted to be off with the other boys. Kids today are seeing & hearing way too much about sex, it's being introduced to them at way too early of an age.

Although i think in this case where they come from has a huge bearing on what they did. They all came from a country where rape is out of control and children and even babies are raped everyday.

Maybe there should be a stipulation on their immigration that mandates they take classes teaching that rape is wrong and blaming your daughters for being raped is just as wrong. How can they possibly stop these crimes when the victims are held to blame.

I can't believe that her family blames her for the rape. What kind of parent shuns their little girl when they should be comforting her

Perhaps they need to lose custody of her, and hopefully she will be placed in a loving home that can help her overcome what has happened to her.

reply to post by resistor

Interesting that the father denies saying that the daughter brought shame on the family by being raped. I saw no evidence that the family was Islamic, the only culture I know of that would find shame in the victim. Is it possible that the police are engaging in anti-Islamic propaganda?

The fact that he is now denying that he said that doesn't mean he's telling the truth. According to one article he said to a case worker and an officer at the same time that they should take his daughter because he didn't want her, so it's not just the police that are claiming that he said this.

"The father told the case worker and an officer in her presence that he didn't want her back. He said 'Take her, I don't want her,'" police Sgt. Andy Hill said.

The Islamic culture is not the only culture that finds shame in rape.

Hill cited the family's background as the reason the family shunned the girl. All five children are refugees from the West African nation of Liberia.

In some parts of Africa, women often are blamed for being raped for enticing men or simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Girls who are raped often are shunned by their families.

You know it wasn't really all that long ago in this country when women were told to hide the fact that they were raped to avoid shame. Thirty odd years ago if a woman reported a rape in this country the common questions were "how were you dressed ? " "what were you doing out so late by yourself? " etc, as if those things had anything to do with it. If the case went to court the woman's character and whether or not she was sexually active, the way she dressed, etc were all brought up in the courtroom as part of the defense teams attempt to attempt to justify the rape by somehow making it the woman's fault.

There is no reason that children of that age should be thinking of sex at all, and the only explanation is that they have been exposed to pornography, sexual situations or behaviors at way too early an age. This is the harvest of the hypersexualization of our culture.

The reason could be that they immigrated from a country where the rape of woman, children, and babies runs rampant.

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reply to post by ExPostFacto


I don't see how anything is being blown out of proportion here. Four boys took a little eight year old girl and held her down while they each forced some kind of sexual act on her ! I'm sorry but you sit here and nitpic over whether or not penetration was involved, there is something seriously wrong with your frame of mind.

As far as the charge of "sexual assault" that's nothing more than today's "politicially correct" term for rape.