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reply posted on 3-9-2002 @ 08:59 PM by Bout Time
Bush couldn't carry Clinton's jock strap!!!

"Most Republicans tend to staunchly support a right winger even when the truth is evident that they've been caught with their fingers in the pie and/or the cookie jar. " - USMC Harrier

Truer words have not been spoken. I am amazed, constantly, that he was first 'selected' as THE candidate over McCain, and then, after ALL this MALFESANCE, these folks like Bob88 & Thomas Crowne STILL put him up there next to sliced bread....WAKE UP!! lol!

Arbusto
Insider Trading
The Rangers Deal
Countless Scandals as Texas Gov.
Cheneyís Halliburton
AWOL during Vietnam ñ www.awolbush.com - (this one really pisses me off!)
AND TOO much more to list ( though I will if you ask!)

Being a Centrist politically, I get a good chuckle from these Freeper Right Wingers saying how everything is Liberal in the perception control category. Hah! If ALL Media is controlled ultimately by SEVEN companies, thus BIG BUSINESS, how can it be Liberal!?!?! I benefit from Bush the Usurpers Tax cuts, & no I won't give the money back, I earned it, but I'll be dammed if I support this FASCIST SCUMBAG!!! This is Nazi seed we're talking here people ( Bob, is that ë88í thing related? You know Heil Hitler and all that jazz?). Bouncing on Grandpa's knee(Prescott), hearing those stories of the Fatherland....you wonder, huh? What? You guys didnít know the Bush line was prosecuted for trading with & supporting Nazi Germany when our troops where engaged against them?
Clinton grew the economy, Bush squandered a 7 TRILLION DOLLAR SURPLUS. The 12 years prior to Clinton was like a kid with a credit card taking cash advances off of one card to pay the other, Reganomics. Bush is as much a non-engaged, delegate everything idiot as was Reagan( I do admit, being the first vote-up and comer-business wonder kid I did vote Reagan ONCE). If you werenít making money as a professional adult or tradesman during Clintonís tenure, you have no one to blame except your lack of initiative.
Ann Coulter & Rush Limbaugh are NOT Conservatives, I am; a McCain man. Theyíre Rabid Right Wingers. Read David Brocks ëBlinded by the Rightí , not the shat they spew. Christian Fundamentalists are far more dangerous than Islamists, why? Christian Fundamentalist, joined at the hip to Corporate Imperialists, now govern the sole World Superpower.



reply posted on 5-9-2002 @ 06:13 PM by Bout Time
Bob thanks for the welcome! I have had two careers in 20 years of working. The second was during Clintonís tenure, when I started my company. If you look at the economic philosophy applied across his presidency, he was a fiscal conservative and to the right of Liberal on most everything else. After seeing him pilloried in the media, I started to educate myself from divergent news sources ( international papers online, Columbia Journalism review, Harvard Law Journal, and of course web searches) trying to find out why this president whose policies helped so many different strata in our society was catching such a raw deal. Here's the more you asked for:

Fiscal Responsibility:

Clinton

Stopping Auditor-Consulting Conflicts by Accountants

Clinton Securities and Exchange Commission Chair Arthur Levitt, Jr. proposed regulations to prohibit accounting firms from simultaneously serving as consultants and auditors. Arthur Andersen and other accounting firms mounted a massive lobbying campaign against the Clinton-Levitt regulations, killing them. The lead lobbyist for the accounting firms was Harvey Pitt (Ivan Boeskyís personal lawyer). After being sworn in as President, George W. Bush named Pitt chair of the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Greater Disclosure of Energy Derivatives

Clinton Commodities Futures Trading Commission Chair Brooksley Born proposed greater regulation (by way of more stringent disclosure) of energy derivatives, the key financial instrument in Enron's Ponzi-scheme empire. Her proposal was beaten back by House Republicans, including then-House Banking Committee Chair Jim Leach (R-IA) who scolded her for two hours at a hearing.

Cracking Down on Tax Havens

Clinton Treasury Secretary Larry Summers proposed a crackdown on tax havens such as those used by Enron. With the US co-chairing the OECD's Forum on Harmful Tax Practices, Summers crusaded for a crackdown on money-laundering and tax havens. His proposal was opposed by the GOP Congress. When the Bush Administration took office, Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill abandoned Summers' crusade, telling the Wall Street Journal, "The government has not been respectful of the cost it imposes on society." The New York Times reported that Bush's top economic adviser, Lawrence Lindsey (a former economic adviser to Enron) also opposed efforts to crack down on tax havens.
Protecting Investors and Shareholders

On December 20, 1995, President Clinton vetoed the Public Securities Litigation Reform Act, which would have restricted lawsuits against corporation accused of securities fraud. In his veto message, Clinton presciently noted that while he supported the notion of reducing frivolous lawsuits: "I am not, however, willing to sign legislation that will have the effect of closing the courthouse door on investors who have legitimate claims. Those who are the victims of fraud should have recourse in our courts. Our markets are as strong and effective as they are because they operate -- and are seen to operate -- with integrity. I believe that this bill, as modified in conference, could erode this crucial basis of our markets' strength." The GOP Congress overrode Clinton's veto.

Bush
In a word, PLUTOCRACY! Now Iíve been accused of being a ëfilthy capitalistí by a neo-hippie niece, but these guys are so out of touch itís scary. The non-partisan Center for Public Integrity has revealed just how plutocratic and out of touch the Bush Administration is.

The study shows not only that the Bush Administration is basically run by corporation-friendly multi-millionaires, but that real and potential conflicts of interest abound in virtually every key executive agency.

The study also emphasizes that the Bush Administration stands in marked contrast to its immediate predecessor.

Highlights:

--The average net worth of 15 of the top Bush cabinet officials, including the President and Vice President, in 2001 was between $9.9 and $28.9 million -- more than ten times the average net worth of the cabinet officials who were their immediate predecessors in the outgoing Clinton Administration.

--Overall, the average net worth of the top 100 members of the Bush administration was somewhere between $3.7 million and nearly $12 million.

--Overall, 22 of the top 100 Bush officials had significant holdings in 33 companies that lobbied their departments, agencies or offices.

--Overall, 20 of the top 100 officials in the Bush administration work in departments, agencies or offices that their former, private sector employers lobbied or from which they sought federal contracts in 2001.
Link:
www.public-i.org...

Harken: Bush as an officer and part of the Boards Audit committee ( 3 person) lead Harken Energy in using the same Ponzi schemes as Enron.

On Cheney: Itís a straw man argument on the sale of his stock in Halliburton, I have no qualms with him doing what every other politician has done to avoid conflicts of interest, hell, Rumsfield sold $91 MILLION in stock last year. Itís these two deals he brokered that are of issue: 1) During his tenure as CEO, he sold $24M worth of nuclear plant equipment to Iraq in 1998 through a subsidiary to avoid the ëtrading with the Enemyí type sanction US firms are obligated to respect. 2) Dresser Industries merger ñ he defrauded Halliburton share holders by assuming the massive debt of Dresser from asbestos litigation. Due Diligence as a corporate officer, THE corporate officer, was sidelined by cronyism to the Bush family and their favorite company: GHW Bush got his start with Dresser, idolized Dresser so much he named his son Neil after him.

Military Service
War sucks, especially unjustified ones like our country has fought since WWII. So getting a military deferment like Clinton, Dick Cheney, Trent Lott, John Ashcroft, Dennis Hastert, Dick Armey, Tom Delay, Newt Gingrich, Karl Rove, and Phil Gramm I can excuse, too a certain extent ( very, very small that it may be). But when you ARE in uniform, going AWOL during war time should catch you a bullet in the head, not a country club gig like Bush and a trip to New England to fake a degree ( guess itís a cheerleader thing, huh?( www.washingtonpost.com... ) . That also requires the above group, with the exception of Clinton, no damn right to smear veterans like John McCain, Chuck Hagel, John Kerry, and Al Gore, ALL of whom received medals for their service during Vietnam, in order to advance their ëchickenhawkí agenda.

Media
If you go to Newsmax or the Drudge report or Rush online or Fox news, youíll be fed that the media is liberal. Detach & step back: the Media is BIG BUSINESS, dependant on advertising revenue, and the ONLY entities that can pay that piper for the dance is CORPORATE BIG BUSINESS. Big Business is NOT LIBERAL. Jack Welch had all his news entities ëcall ití for Bush very prematurely and Fox News is run by a former Bush Campaign manager. Look, Global Media Giants have complete ownership of the global market and promote commercial values, while denigrating journalism
and culture not conducive to the immediate bottom line or long-run corporate profits. Period. Look at the tremendous industry & career that sprang up around Clinton bashing that continues to this day. News stopped being ënewsí a long time ago; itís all pundits and entertainment now.

Links
www.cjr.org...

www.fair.org...

www.fair.org...

More to comeÖ.




reply posted on 7-9-2002 @ 09:25 PM by Bout Time
Boy, you folks never met a fact you couldn't spin, huh?
" groundless garbage based in neither constitution or reality" -Thomas Crowne

Thomas, really, the reality of public record , votes, paychecks and vetoes are not my opinions, just reality. Let's keep the alternate reality thing on Star Trek, ok?
It's a fact that Harvey Pitt was the Big 5's mouthpiece in fighting oversight and on their payroll. It's a fact that Bush's Chief Economic advisor was an Enron boy. It's a fact That Thomas White headed the Enron division being prosecuted by California for price fixing. It's a fact the GOP controlled Congress overrode Clinton's veto of the Public Litigation Reform Act. Again, not my conjecture, but something you can surf up on .gov websites.
Let's put aside partisanship for a moment and apply logic, in a vacuum void of habitat. In your opinion, if a group of individuals of a net worth in excess of $100M were given the charter to set economic/social policy, which group do you think that policy would favor - the Gentry from which they come or the proletariat?
On the homophobic thing, good natured teasing , I don't think you're suppressing homosexual tendencies, though there's nothing wrong with that, live & let live is my motto...as long as it's not on my front lawn. Just too many of the Right Wings anti-Clinton arguments start with 'moral outrage' about an affair; utter hypocrisy in my opinion, with all the Gingrich, Fund, Reagan and Barr skeletons in the closet.
On bias voiding my Centrist viewpoint, Hell no! Where I live, my only Democrat vote was for Senator & President - County Exec/Sheriff/Mayor/Controller, ALL REPUBLICAN! I just don't suffer fools gladly, and Mr. Bush is a motley one. That, and if you wore a uniform for your country, an AWOL C in C is a disgrace for all those who do or did.

Bob

No, Mr. Cheney brokered that based on his stellar connections garnered from bouncing back & forth between government contractor to government employee, through a fully owned existing subsidiary.
'Axis of Evil' was and is an idiotic comment illustrating the suit of diplomacy is two sizes too big for our little fake Texan from New England Blue Blood.
Unfortunately, Bill Clinton's not in office; just a reminder since you wrote the North Korean lunacy was a Clinton carry over. It was Bush who released the $95M, it was Bush who waived the inspection clause letting an advanced military power, who is as much or more belligerent against the US as Iraq, freely develop weapons-grade plutonium, and this happened in 2002...not 1998.
Come on now, saying Democrats are Communists is just silly.
Do what I do, let the ones on the far Left and far Right piss you off with their demagoguery, but listen nonetheless, so you can see how much they affect those closer to the center.
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