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reply posted on 22-7-2009 @ 06:29 PM by CUBD1
Originally posted by evergreenvt
reply to
post by GoodOlDave


Let's take the facts as you allege and, for once, look at the practical aspects. How many people, working full time, for at least six months, were involved in the conspiracy to weaken and demolish the World Trade Center complex? 500? 1,000? 2,000?


The premise of your entire argument requires the credulity of a conspiracy nut itself. 500? 1000? 2000?

Try 20. Try 30. At the most. Maybe even ten.

The rest of your argument is made laughable by the unbelieveable premise you've set forth.

-- justin


reply posted on 22-7-2009 @ 06:54 PM by Eurisko2012
reply to post by TrueAmerican



Will you nuts ever give up?
I guess you'll be here 50 years from today.
"911 was an inside job!"

BTW....Who shot John F. Kennedy?


reply posted on 22-7-2009 @ 09:52 PM by Ex_MislTech
Originally posted by gravykraken
reply to
post by hgfbob



i like what Ventura said: "2 planes, 3 buildings"... and the camp stove analogy was dead on. now i'm generally not one to align myself with aging pro-wrasslin' alumni... but after all, he played Captain Freedom too!


Another thing ppl forget about Mr. Ventura, he was a Navy Seal.

Not just any Seal either, but Underwater Demolition Team.

So Jesse went to school on how to blow stuff up, so to speak.

Having worked around some Seals while I was in, I respected
all the ones I came across, though some were a bit wild.


reply posted on 22-7-2009 @ 10:00 PM by Ex_MislTech
Originally posted by GorehoundLarry
Originally posted by deltaboy
Lies lies all lies. It was the Israelis not the Saudis. Helping the Saudis escape out of the U.S. was a cover for Israel.


Yeah you're right, none of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia


All their paperwork that was found pointed to the fact they were from
saudi arabia.

The weird part is some of the 19 turned up alive and living normal
lives months after the attacks.

If you want to see all the evidence against Israel it is right here.

Empire of the city - pt 1

A lot of that is going to be VERY hard to believe, but try to make
yourself watch the whole thing and maybe take notes on parts
that you do not believe, then do some searching and you will find
almost all of it verifiable.

Dancing israeli's on 911

The news clips they use are pretty damning on their own, but
anyways check it out, and then you might have a different opinion.



[edit on 22-7-2009 by Ex_MislTech]



reply posted on 22-7-2009 @ 10:11 PM by Ex_MislTech
Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to
post by TrueAmerican



Will you nuts ever give up?
I guess you'll be here 50 years from today.
"911 was an inside job!"

BTW....Who shot John F. Kennedy?


Well as the Mc Gruder film shows his head going back and to the
left after his head was blow apart, obviously the killing shot came
from in front of him, not from behind him.

Thus it was not Oswald in the book repository.

Also in the official story, the government put forth there was
a "magic" bullet that stopped in mid flight and turned around and went
the other way.

I don't know why that version is easier to believe than simple physics.

As for 911 watch 911 press for truth on google video and you will
see that at a minimum there was some kind of cover up.

I know of VERY few ppl that watch that film and do not realize we
have been lied to by the government once again.

Other government lies came in things like Air America, Operation
Garden Plot, Operation Northwoods, REX 84, Hanford Reactor Site,
and many more...


[edit on 23-7-2009 by Ex_MislTech]


reply posted on 23-7-2009 @ 11:31 AM by MagoSA
some statistics:

10 people on average for a demo team.

2 months on average to rig a building to blow.

Let's double to time to conceal the charges. 4 months. Ten people. Hell, you got military folk in the thousands who have never shot their mouths off about all the nifty classified stuff they learned...

Let's take it a step farther - the main support structures are what need to be nipped, because the main pylons in the core of the building are NOT exposed in the working spaces, no more than the guts of a mall are exposed to the shoppers. So, you got ten men who penetrate the building nightly and get into the crawlspaces and work areas in order to set charges - still no big deal as the charges aren't blinking or active til they get an activate signal.

The WTC architect stated that the buildings were overengineered to handle an aircraft collision, Cat 5 winds, with minimal damage. means some swaying, structural damage, shattered glass, but not collapsing. So, why was this so plausible that the building collapsed when there was safeties in place to make sure it didn't?

We won't even talk about the missle impact on the Pentagon, and why every security cam in shooting distance of the Pentagon had its memory storage removed.

If I was a thinking man, I'd have downloaded it to a USB drive and held it.

Speaking of, what are the odds, since people like them, that two buildings in uncontrolled collapse manage to land in their own footprint?


reply posted on 23-7-2009 @ 12:24 PM by evergreenvt
reply to post by CUBD1



"Try 20. Try 30. At the most. Maybe even ten."

Indeed. Not sure whether that means 10 Spidermen or 20 MacGyvers; I don't even know what the conversion ratio would be.

The problem with a worldview informed by television and fantasy novels is that eventually the "theories" run headlong into the practical limitations of time, physics and real life. It's absurd on its face to insist that 30 individuals - even with extremely specialized training and unlimited funding - could do the actual physical work necessary to pull off such an error-free controlled demolition. And it still leaves the question of doing an inherently destructive job over the course of months without drawing attention and without disturbing as much as a single interior wall.

Let's also consider the hundreds of miles of electrical, datacomm and alarm cabling that would have to remain undisturbed until the very last minute. Plumbing and HVAC would also have to be undisturbed until the last minute even as the secret squirrel teams weakened major structural components.

And speaking of major structural components, no controlled demolition in history has been undertaken with the goal of leaving a building occupied and safe until the very last minute; the two goals are at odds with each other. But in this case, the claim requires that in a triumph of engineering, the planners found the perfect point at which both buildings could be weakened for an absolutely flawless collapse... while keeping them safe for business every day beforehand. Using the traditional model would make the towers unstable in a stiff enough wind, especially since the bulk of the work would be done during hurricane season. The alternative would be to require even more explosive power in the floor-by-floor charges because the typical demolition models could not be used, making the prep work more lengthy and making the explosives harder to conceal.

Bear in mind that the buildings' electrical, datacomm, plumbing and HVAC systems would have had to have been working flawlessly from before the conspiracy began its work until September 11. Things break, components fail, and systems require maintenance. You can't plan for these things. An army of maintenance staff worked for the buildings' management - but none ever had a single cause to work in the very maintenance areas the demolition crews were preparing?

One poster in another forum admitted that it was simply more fun to believe the conspiracies than accept the reality, and that's fine. But too many people insist on believing in something that simply cannot have happened. It's not because George Bush was a great President, not because governments are benevolent at their core, not because the Saudis are great people, and not because radical Islam doesn't hope for the destruction of western civilization: it's because what you claiming here cannot have happened due to the actual physical limitations of the real world.
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