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Topic started on 21-7-2009 @ 12:43 PM by deltaboy
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Concept pics of the PAK. Could be a fake I think. I look at the wiki and it mentions that it would be stealthy.
en.wikipedia.org...
Although there is no reliable information about the PAK FA's specifications yet, it is known from interviews with people in the Russian Air Force
that it will be stealthy, have the ability to supercruise, be outfitted with the next generation of air-to-air, air-to-surface, and air-to-ship
missiles, and incorporate an AESA radar. The PAK FA will use on her first flights 2 Saturn 117S engines (about 14.5 ton thrust each). The 117S is an
advanced version of the AL-31F, but built with the experience gained in the AL-41F program. The AL-41F powered the Mikoyan MFI fighter
(Project/Article 1.44). Later versions of the PAK FA will use a completely new engine (17.5 ton thrust each), developed by NPO Saturn or FGUP MMPP
Salyut.
If you design a plane based on stealth then it would have to look something like in the pics or the F-22 or the F-35, can't be with curves and so on.
So you think a Russian plane with stealth be looking something like this even if this concept is not real?
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reply posted on 21-7-2009 @ 01:05 PM by spikey
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"The AL-41F powered the Mikoyan MFI fighter"...
Oh no!
MFI fighter?! It's bound to come with screws missing and no instructions.
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reply posted on 21-7-2009 @ 01:06 PM by RichardPrice
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reply posted on 21-7-2009 @ 01:55 PM by ShadowLink
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Wether Concept art or private renderings I don't care.
That is one sweet looking plane! Even nicer then the Raptor.
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reply posted on 21-7-2009 @ 01:56 PM by MajesticJax
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Kinda reminds me of the alien interceptors in Independence Day:
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reply posted on 21-7-2009 @ 02:10 PM by IAF101
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Very Majestic looking aircraft but I doubt the finished product would look anything like that. They are promising a LOT from super cruise to stealth
but I fear they wont be able to deliver quite as well on all their promises. The AESA radar itself is going to be a monumental challenge for them. Not
to mention decent engines.
Its shocking that the Russians despite being the originators in the study of
"Stealth" have not bothered to replicate the American successes in the same field.
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reply posted on 21-7-2009 @ 03:07 PM by Iblis
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I'm still waiting for them to get a 50% success rate on their new missile.
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reply posted on 21-7-2009 @ 05:45 PM by waynos
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Yes this is an artists rendering of a possible Pak Fa concept and is nothing to do with Sukhoi.
It is however an extremely attractive looking aircraft that acheives this despite incorporating strong, if modified, elements of the F-22 (intakes,
tail), YF-23 (nose profile) and the X-32 (wing, especially in the middle image). All no doubt intended to convey a stealthy appearance, which it
does.
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reply posted on 22-7-2009 @ 01:08 AM by paraphi
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Certainly a nice set of drawings. However, I cannot help thinking that "artist impressions" are all that ever comes out of Russia.
I do wonder whether Russia can afford to develop aircraft as being proposed - after all, their GDP is not that big. The Europeans long ago pooled
their developent resouces (with the exception of France, of course) and the US are curtailing F22, probably because they don't actually need such a
plane and it is rather costly.
Oh, I know people think the US needs F22, but they don't.
Regards
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reply posted on 22-7-2009 @ 02:18 AM by C0bzz
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Whoops. Disregard.
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reply posted on 22-7-2009 @ 07:14 AM by BLV12
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There are no real images of the PAK-FA.
Everything that's out there is fan art.
Butt on the upside, they've given us some pretty decent looking concepts to look at.
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reply posted on 22-7-2009 @ 02:00 PM by maintainright
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yup fan art, I'm sure I saw cg vid of these on utube the other day
will try and find it and post
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reply posted on 22-7-2009 @ 02:52 PM by arbiture
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Originally posted by spikey
reply to post by deltaboy
"The AL-41F powered the Mikoyan MFI fighter"...
Oh no!
MFI fighter?! It's bound to come with screws missing and no instructions.
Russian aircraft are very tough, and that counts a lot for me. I would not want to have to take an F-22 off from a dirt or gravel road.
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reply posted on 22-7-2009 @ 05:44 PM by skyeyes
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MFI fighter?! It's bound to come with screws missing and no instructions.
reply to post by spikey
That's flippin hilarious!!!!!     
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reply posted on 24-7-2009 @ 07:14 AM by Semoro
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LOL! I'm sorry i must point out that we're all salivating over a aircraft from the latest Ace combat, fires of liberation. It is the final unlock
craft. However there are some modifications, it simply looks like a modded version so do not get your hopes up yet. I cannot remember the name of the
plane simply cause my piece of sh*t Xbox 360 scratched the disk. Sorry guys but this is fake by the looks of things
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reply posted on 24-7-2009 @ 07:55 AM by waynos
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Did you not read the thread then? Almost to a man we said it was not real
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reply posted on 27-7-2009 @ 12:17 PM by HatTrick
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BTW - round exhaust nozzles = stealth FAIL
However, it's a very cool looking rendering.
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reply posted on 29-7-2009 @ 10:48 AM by stratsys-sws
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Originally posted by HatTrick
BTW - round exhaust nozzles = stealth FAIL
However, it's a very cool looking rendering.
Sheesh, you'd better give the guys working on the F-35 a call then, they seem to have overlooked that!
Obviously just a rendering, but a pretty nice looking one at that!
Cheers
Robbie
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reply posted on 29-7-2009 @ 10:59 AM by xmotex
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Isn't the PAK FA supposed to begin flight testing within the next couple of months?
If so, I suppose we'll see what it actually looks like pretty soon.
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reply posted on 29-7-2009 @ 03:00 PM by paraphi
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Originally posted by xmotex
Isn't the PAK FA supposed to begin flight testing within the next couple of months?
Paper aeroplanes, by the look of it...
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