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Union of Europe and the USA?

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posted on Jul, 21 2009 @ 07:08 AM
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On September 10, 2008 the Streit Council and the Council on Foreign Relations [CFR] co-organized a Round-Table discussion on THE CASE FOR A UNION OF THE WEST. www.streitcouncil.org...

THE URGENCY OF A UNION OF EUROPE WITH AMERICA.
www.streitcouncil.org...

UNION of the West - Global NATO - League of Demorcracies.
www.streitcouncil.org...

Streit's book 'Union Now' is mentioned in this article along with comments from George Orwell.

About the Streit Council.
www.streitcouncil.org...

Since C. K. Streit wrote Union Now, the established democracies have indeed developed substantial institutions for managing their common affairs and meeting their responsibilities in the world at large. The postwar U.S. strategy of integrating an initial group of democratic countries led, as we know, to the institutionalization of the Atlantic Alliance through NATO and its Parliamentary Assembly, and to support for other emerging inter-democracy institutions, such as the OECD, EU, International Energy Agency, G8, and others. These institutions, in keeping with the Union Now concept, worked as a magnet, attracting other countries to democratize and join.



The world’s established democracies still have – as when Union Now was published – the greatest power and influence in the world when working together. As citizens of these democracies we continue to bear great responsibilities: to strengthen our joint institutions and thus stabilize the international system – to promote common human concerns more effectively and consistently, at both regional and global levels.


Affiliate of the Streit Council
www.ashburninstitute.org...

I found this article on the Streit Council Website - Brent Scowcroft, "The Dispensable Nation?"
www.scowcroft.com...
1 July 2009 - Brent Scowcroft, former National Security Adviser to President George H.W. Bush, argues that the United States needs to re-engage with its Atlantic Community partners in an era of declining power and increasing threats. Mr. Scowcroft is wary of projects for a worldwide Community of Democracies to combat new threats, calling instead for a strengthened Altantic Community. The important distinction, he maintains, is not between countries that are democratic vs. non-democratic, but between those which are developed economically and those who are not. Thus, America's relationship with Europe becomes paramount in a world of rising tensions with Russia, the rapid modernization of China, and the precarious state of democracies in Latin America, Africa, and the Middle East. He sees progress with the election of politicians who are perceived to be more pro-American than their predecessors, especially Nicolas Sarkozy in France and Angela Merkel in Germany.

Streit Council Early Leaders:

Sir Norman Angell - writer

Theodore Achilles - US vice deputy of the North Atlantic Council, ambassador, director and vice chairman of the Atlantic Council of the United States

William Clayton - Assistant Secretary of State, Vice President of the Atlantic Union Committee

Gardner Cowles, Jr. - newspaper editor and publisher

Dorothy Canfield Fisher - author

Sen. Estes Kefauver - US Representative and Senator

Thomas W. Lamont - US Financial Advisor

Gov. Herbert H. Lehman - Governor and US Senator, D-NY

Claire Booth Luce - playwright, editor, journalist, ambassador

Henry Luce, III - magazine editor

Sen. Eugene J. McCarthy - US Senator, poet

Justice Owen J. Roberts - US Supreme Court Judge

Elmo Roper - pollster, editor

Mod Edit: Removed all caps title.

[edit on 21-7-2009 by Gemwolf]




posted on Jul, 21 2009 @ 07:32 AM
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i would like for someone to inform me as to the pro and cons of these sort of unions such as the "nau" and league of democracies. why do we have such a strong negative view to this here on ats ?



posted on Jul, 21 2009 @ 07:56 AM
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Originally posted by National_Insecurity
i would like for someone to inform me as to the pro and cons of these sort of unions such as the "nau" and league of democracies. why do we have such a strong negative view to this here on ats ?


"Why do we hate her again?" LOL!
Just reminded me of some teen movie.

I think we see these things negatively because of the potential for abuse, the danger to the sovereignty of the U.S. and the push closer and closer to a World Government.

My brother is all for a N.W.O., and I can see a huge upside to it, but the problem is we have to use "people" to run it!

Socialism and Communism are wonderful Utopian ideas, but the people involved, and the corruption that comes along with people are the reason they can never work.

Karl Marx postulated that Capitalism would ultimately end in several mega-corporations running things and controlling the commerce, the people, and the government, thereby effectually equalling Communism. We are finally seeing the effects he predicted and those of us who are awake are getting pretty scared. We are starting to balk at any "consolidation" of powers or companies or governments!



posted on Jul, 21 2009 @ 08:21 AM
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I think it all has to do with:

'in an era of declining power and increasing threats'

more countries are able to create atomn bomb...perhaps Iran..perhaps North Korea...

Perhaps USA might get their own Hiroshima experience in future..dunno..but all I know, the weapons we create are getting more destructive...not only the weapons, but humans themselves are getting more destructive...especially peepz who just wants 2 gain power and abuse it...

I guess USA just dont like the idea others having the big guns as well...
Perhaps reuniting with Europe might give Europe & USA an advantage in many fields (war, import/export, spionage, secret projects, territories, industrial movements etc)...

Perhaps the beginning of a n.W.o. ?...or?? All I can think its inevitable cuz of the current governments and their capitalistical friends are running the show (behind curtains and in backstage area's as well ;p)..
I don't see any pro's in their vision.... It's not in the benifit for mankind...more in benifit for industrial companies etc...perhaps I am totally wrong.. but I guess we 'common' people do have a voice, but they rather ignore 'our' voice. Not only that, I think our biggest issue is we don't share the same voice. Cuz we all dont see the same way. I just hope we are not to late..



posted on Jul, 21 2009 @ 08:28 AM
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"The important distinction, he maintains, is not between countries that are democratic vs. non-democratic, but between those which are developed economically and those who are not."

Our national identity is our representative republic.
We lose that, we lose what makes America unique. We might as well be another France, Great Britian, Germany.



posted on Jul, 21 2009 @ 08:36 AM
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Please oh please don't let it happen LOL
All jokes aside do you really think America will give up their sovereignty to join a "Union" with Europe?
Who would lead and who would follow?
Both have their own ideas of what democracy is and both are incompatible.



posted on Jul, 21 2009 @ 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by starwarp2000
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Please oh please don't let it happen LOL
All jokes aside do you really think America will give up their sovereignty to join a "Union" with Europe?
Who would lead and who would follow?
Both have their own ideas of what democracy is and both are incompatible.


The question is, "Do you think our inept government would give up our sovereignty if it would make them a buck, and they gained a higher position in the new 'Union'?"

That is the scary question, because we know 90% of our elected officials would sell out in a second. Most of them already have. Didn't China buy Clinton's presidency? Since Hillary didn't win, we have to assume Obama's handlers are even more well-financed than China!!

Of course the people will not be for this, but when was the last time our elected officials did what we asked.

Example: Rep. Allen Boyd had calls coming into his office 50:1 against the recent bailout bill, but he still voted for it. There is a huge ouster campaign against him now, but he is so well-connected in the Arms Committee and his political party that we won't get him out.

If this guy were offered a position within the NAU or UN, he would sell Florida to Cuba in a second!



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