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Originally posted by Welfhard
Is he an idiot too???
The short answer is yes hence:
”The Bible must be considered as the great source of all the truth by which men are to be guided in government as well as in all social transactions.”
But I will add that I find this hilarious:
“All the miseries and evils which men suffer from vice, crime, ambition, injustice, oppression, slavery and war, proceed from their despising or neglecting the precepts contained in the Bible.”
But I'm done, I can't stand this garbage. I hope you have lots of funny talking to your imaginary friends.
[edit on 21-7-2009 by Welfhard]
Early in the evening of June 17, 2 B.C., the brightest planets in the sky, Jupiter and Venus, merged into a dazzling "star" near the western horizon, according to calculations of modern astronomers. In countries to the east of what was then the kingdom of Judea, observers could have seen the fused planets as a beacon in the direction of Jerusalem.
Astrologers associated Jupiter with the birth of kings and Venus with fertility. The meeting of Jupiter and Venus took place in the constellation Leo the Lion, which the Old Testament of the Bible specifically associated with the Jewish people. And it happened near the brightest star in Leo, Regulus, most closely identified with kingship.
There has not been a brighter, closer conjunction of Venus and Jupiter in Leo so near to Regulus in the 2,000 years before or since.
Could this be the event that caused a group of astrologers called the Wise Men to travel to Jerusalem in search of a new king almost 2,000 years ago?
The Star of Bethlehem is mentioned only in a few verses of the New Testament's Book of Matthew (Chapter 2: 1-12), but it is one of the best-known parts of the Christmas story. A number of astronomers and historians have tried to determine what the unusual sight could have been.
And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God said, Let us make man in our image.... So God created man in his own image.
And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens.
Gen.1:3 - 2:3
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. ... And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Originally posted by Welfhard
reply to post by OldThinker
'NOBLE' OT out
To be fair, OT, I didn't call you noble, I called you a filthy fraud.
Originally posted by Tayesin
Hi again O.T.
You'll find the unedited original version of those quoted Genesis passages in the Sumerian Tablets, where the first book of the Torah and the Bible came from when the Hebrews left Sumer.
Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
So, the choice is really pretty clear here, either the Earth is only 6,000 years old and our Creator intentionally left false evidence to test our faith, or the story of Creation in the book of Genesis is a story created by an ancient nomadic tribe with no knowledge of science to explain their origins. Now since I don't ascribe deceit as being a godlike quality, the choice seems quite clear....
Genesis 1: Verse 1- In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.6 And God said, "Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water.7 So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so.8 God called the expanse "sky." And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day. "
3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.
4 God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
9 And God said, "Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear." And it was so.
10 God called the dry ground "land," and the gathered waters he called "seas." And God saw that it was good.
11 Then God said, "Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds." And it was so.
12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.
14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years,
15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth." And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars.
17 God set them in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good.
19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.”
Originally posted by OldThinker
reply to post by ldyserenity
I'm good with the halogram take on things, if by it you mean "TIME"??? Where eternity, is the reality...and time-based perception is the illusion...ever thought about that?
Why did he called Himself, 'I AM THAT I AM'??? i.e. burning bush/moses, etc...
Originally posted by OldThinker
Can you provide me the link for the sumerian texts? Are they readable on line?