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Originally posted by argentus
reply to post by debunky
But the really fun part of this:
... Hawaii doesn't issue long forms.
Hawaii went "paperless" in 2001, and only issues *cough* E-certs now. Of course, that wasn't the case in 1961. Or 71. Or 81. etc.
edit to put in your quote, Debunky. cheers
[edit on 20/7/09 by argentus]
Originally posted by jam321
Obama is now in a better position than ever to provide proof that is BC is legit, even if it isn't. He could easily get the people in Hawaii to produce a legit one in exchange for under the table favors.
How about a 3 nite stay in the Lincoln bedroom? How about a trip overseas via AF1? How about some connections to some influential people? How about some money?
Either way, Obama survives and will be President till 2012.
I still say the best thing he could do is just show that darn piece of paper.
Originally posted by Urekabado
I would just like to say to all you people who say that you're a turd if you voted for Obama, that, that is bull, I voted for the man, but i didn't vote for Bush when he was in office and i still had to put up with 8 years of his crap.I wonder what this country would be like now if McCain did win, would you people be any happier? Anyway whoever we would've picked america would have lost. About obamas BC, if he isn't really a citizen i really doubt it'll come to light.
Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
reply to post by ZindoDoone
So what? So what if we find out that Obama wasn't born in this country. The only thing that is going to happen is the Constitution will be amended to include those who weren't born in the US will be allowed to be President. I mean come on do you not think that day is on the horizon. America is a multicultural cesspool. The "pot" in melting pot was never meant to melt. It has been for years. It's one thing to embrace different cultures, races etc. But as England knows dealing with the Muslims America has allowed too much culture and too many people that no one even knows what it means to be American anymore. It's sad.
Just like you can be so open minded your brain falls out your country can be so open that it loses it's identity. Exactly what you see happening in the US of A. No one assimilates anymore. They are all vying for their own culture and identity instead of becoming Americans.
[edit on 20-7-2009 by Zosynspiracy]
Originally posted by andrewh7
Originally posted by jam321
Hawaii's official birth certificate is the short form. You cannot order the long form. Now, ironically you're recommending that Obama bribe government officials in order to prove to you that he is legitimate. This short form birth certificate is legally sufficient for anything that would require a birth certificate. If this were not the case, no one in Hawaii would be able to get a passport.
You guys will nonetheless keep asking the long form because you know that no one can get it. If you don't like Hawaii's Health Department policies, lobby their state legislature.
Most likely, everything I just said just went over your head. Keep ranting.
Originally posted by dooper
Anything happens to Obama, and I mean ANYTHING, the proverbial dookey is going to hit the fan across this nation.
Could be the event that kicks off another Civil War, again, by a significant portion of the population to throw off a dominating, controlling Federal Government.
This guy Obama is a complete disaster for the US. If it was determined that he was in fact a KGB plant - put here to destroy the economic system - and thus the US - I would not be surprised one bit.
Look at what he's done to date.
SOMEBODY better be having a closer look.
This guy don't smell right.