Obamagate Begins

Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
reply to post by Common Good

 

If people don't suffer the consequences of their actions or their decisions nothing their behavior will not change.

You are right, but now I along with many others in this country who have from the beginning been warning everyone to not go down that path, are now paying for their actions, not ours.
Politicians are scum, no doubt about that. I wont argue with you there.
If you ask me, those are the ones who should be paying the price, not the people. Remember, he was like Annakin Skywalker, he was supposed to bring balance to the world...but he ended up being a helmet head.
Its not just "dumb Americans" who ate his crap up, everyone from everywhere was eating it up. We were all tricked by one of the best magicians since houdini(well at least this dumb american wasnt)but that doesnt really matter though does it?

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Mike Castle on PeeBo's Birthcertificate.

Just so ya'll know .. yes Mike Castle is my rep ... but no, that's not me.
I'd like to know which of my neighbors that woman is. I'd shake her hand.

Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
You guys act like Obama is worse than any President of the last 50 years.

It's been getting progressively worse .. and yes, he and Jimmy Carter are at the top of the 'worst presidents ever' list.

reply to post by Zosynspiracy


I believe I misjudged your post, Amigo! Sorry bout that! I seem to jump sometimes and maybe I should first take a deep breath and then post! I think I'm a little cranky today!

Zindo

Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
reply to post by soldiermom

 

What are you talking about? Obama has only been President for what not even 9 months? I hate Obama as much as anyone. But to think he's the worst President in the last 50 years after only less than 9 months as President is completely ignorant. And don't even start with the economy. The economy was in crisis WAY BEFORE Obama stepped into office. If it wasn't for the current economic crisis most people wouldn't be batting an eye at the current administration. The only time Americans pay attention is when it affects their pocket book. And that is no way to run a country. I don't put too much stock into an American populace that is more worried about having the latest cell phone than what cap and trade is. And you expect these same people to riot in the streets? LMAO! No these same morons aren't going to riot in the street they'll probably end up robbing you and me at gun point or worse yet voting another yahoo into office that will promise them more free # and gubmint cheese!

I said he's one of the worst presiden't of the last 50 years. So, he's only been in office a short time? It's been enough time to wreak even more havoc than what we already had to contend with. Don't put words in my mouth. I never said he was the sole cause of the economic crisis. But he sure hasn't helped it any has he?

You can LMAO all you want. You're grouping all Americans into your stereotype of them and I have to say you're shortchanging many folks.

We'll just have to hope and pray that in the next election the "morons" and "yahoos" aren't the majority. And once Obama is finished, I don't think they will be.

Coming to you this fall:
Obama cannot show his birthcertificate:riots
Dollar will fall:riots
Swineflu kick in real hard: riots

You better buy your canned food and water NOW, NWO shtf-time has arrived.

I hate to tell you, but outside the marginal rightwing talk-radio subculture, nobody even knows about this made-up birth certificate "controversy", let alone cares

There aren't going to be any riots, the guy still has about a 60% approval rating, which is about twice what Bush had when he left office.

reply to post by soldiermom


My fault. I don't know why I thought you said he was the worst in the last 50 years. And my comments on the economic crisis were not aimed soley at you. It was in general.

But the point still stands. You wanna bash Obama? LMAO! Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Bush Senior, Clinton, Bush Jr and now Obama. Sure we've had some bad apples in the last 100 years but pretty much all the post WWII Presidents have been terrible save for Kennedy. And we see what happened to him for talking out about secret societies. Atleast Eisenhower warned us of the military industrial complex that has ruined our nation the most.

And no I don't have much faith in my fellow Americans because on AVERAGE they are uniformed and the only reason everyone is all of a sudden waking up is because it's affecting their pocket book. My question is where the hell was everyone for the last 50+ years? The Federal Reserve has been around since 19 frickin 13!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And you wanna argue Americans alive today are going to all of a sudden rise to the occasion? Well here's a big fat LMAO! Americans are more uninformed, more brainwashed, more out of touch with their government's agenda than ever before. I mean hell most young kids probably couldn't even tell you how many Congressman and Senators there are let alone how money is actually created in this country something that affects and will affect ALL OF THEM for the rest of their lives.

Oh and before all you Kennedy bashers start in I'm not saying he was great. But at least he was willing to speak out against secret societies and other tyrannical institutions flanking American democracy.

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reply to post by xmotex


You are delusional if you dont think that people dont know about this issue.
Its just that everytime someone tries to say something about it, they get silenced or shrugged off because of that 60 percent approval rating you talk about. This issue has been around since the primaries, everyone knows, some just choose not to participate because they dont want to look bad if proven right or wrong.

I can't say that I enjoy these threads since the process of contributing has become a tiresome exercise in swatting away the zealots and mean-spirited folks who see everything in terms of race conflict, partisan politics, and the ever illusory ideological points.

But in the end, powerful interests who have been 'selecting' those we are told we are electing may have failed to account for the enduring nature of unanswered questions.

It was the Democratic branch of the two-headed one party system that IS responsible. They "sold" the American people this 'hope' of 'change'. Then they proceeded to perform as per their usual flaccid, aging, ineffectual nature drives them.

Obama may not even be aware of the truth; and may be hoping not to face this demon of technicalities. But someone SHOULD have - can anyone name the party or parties who should have? Aside from the American people, who were too fearful of racial recriminations, and accusations of prejudice to pursue the matter?

This really is not the convoluted rocket science that the ideologues and talking heads want to make of it. It is a simple "yes" or "no" matter, easily resolved.

If he is a citizen, great, he still sucks at keeping his promises and used the quintessential marketing and game theory techniques all politicians use to convince us about his worthiness to lead the nation.

If he is not, then we have a dilemma. He was sworn in as President of this nation (twice). The electoral college nearly peed themselves to vote him in. The media loved the spin - all positive for a change. The people were 'charmed' for the most part and - someone correct me if I'm wrong - but better than 85% of the African-American vote (whatever African American is supposed to mean) went to him regardless of party affiliation.

The public mandate was there, the corporate mandate was there, the political mandate was there. Can we honestly say he shouldn't serve NOW?

Of course, the conspiracy theorist in me returns to the many questions such a thing might bring with it, but for now there is a simple solution.

Why spend millions to block the inquiry? Why is the Justice department falling all over itself to give the impression (wrongly) that the American people have no recourse for redress in the matter? Even the media spins it, continuously calling the cases brought as 'thrown out' when in fact in many cases they were not 'thrown out' they were simply not legally valid requests?

For that matter, why do people think it would be such a catastrophe? I think it would be a sign that the people ARE allowed to inquire and that their servant ARE required to respond. I would mark that as a small victory..., even though it could be used by the influential to start a whole new chain of destructive events to exploit..., or at least try to.

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reply to post by Maxmars



What do you expect from the black populace? I mean they all loved Clinton! They let people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson be their spokeshole. You think black people would ever support an Alan Keyes? hell no! Many blacks have called Colin Powell an Uncle Tom. I won't look to black Americans for any change any time soon. But I'm sure I'll be called a "racist" after this post right?


BOTH the democrats and the republicans have destroyed this country. Washington's words never rang more true! A two party system will be the downfall of this country.

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[edit on 20-7-2009 by Zosynspiracy]

reply to post by ahamarlin


The year; 2011
The place; North American Federation

(AP) This tuesday marks the first anniversary of the new political movement that has created the NAF. Last year, as many of you might remember, Glorious Leader Obama finally showed his birth certificate after heated protests and a month-long strike of several unions and non-union professions.

When it was discovered that Africa was the continent of his birth, most members of the House and Senate, led by then Sec. of State, Hillary Clinton, demanded the ouster of then President Barak Obama. Her subsequent arrest and execution by the ACORN Militia cooled heads and made the demands by members of the House and Senate reverse, almost overnight.

Vice-Chancellor Biden refused to even comment on the discovery and Regent Pelosi unvieled her plans for the NAF. In a stunning display of political change, the country once called America grew to it's new form. Like a butterfly emerging from it's coccoon, the new NAF has spread her wings and has brought freedom and prosperity to an otherwise bleak future of run-away capitalism and free trade.

GL Obama stated in his weekly address that new programs to aid in the devastating swine flu epidemic, brought about by the former Bush administration, (See link to Bush execution) will aid in areas where body burning has slowed due to lack of volunteers.
"All peoples of our great Federation will volunteer with great rewards awaiting them in the NAF food-stores and NAF clothing-shops."

In other related news, the new GL Obama coins, will be made avaliable soon. Government script can be exchanged at the usual rate at any ACORN Police Station.


Please see link below for GL Obama anthem
www.youtube.com...

And don't forget to smile.
-or we'll shoot you-

satire alert

[edit on 20-7-2009 by mikerussellus]

Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
reply to post by ZindoDoone So what? So what if we find out that Obama wasn't born in this country. The only thing that is going to happen is the Constitution will be amended to include those who weren't born in the US will be allowed to be President. I[edit on 20-7-2009 by Zosynspiracy]

No, what will happen is that he would have to step down (Impeached or Resign) and all bills, orders, laws and treaties signed would be null. The order of seccesion would be followed- although those two: Biden and Pelosi would be worse! At least you know where they are coming from.

The Constitution would not be amended for foreign born persons to become President. The States would not Ratify the Admendment.

Originally posted by xmotex the guy still has about a 60% approval rating, which is about twice what Bush had when he left office.

"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 30% of the nation's voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama." "Sixty-three percent (63%) of political liberals Strongly Approve while 60% of conservatives Strongly Disapprove. Overall, 50% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President's performance. Forty-nine percent (49%) disapprove."

These Quotes are from here

It really depends on whom you are asking. I would suspose if the net was cast much wider than a better picture would ensue.

reply to post by Zosynspiracy


Why don't you even know how long he's been in office ?
And you claim to know what you're talking about?

Did you have to google that? lol

[edit on 20-7-2009 by MagicaRose]

Originally posted by Common Good


Remember, he was like Annakin Skywalker, he was supposed to bring balance to the world...but he ended up being a helmet head.

Have you never seen Star Wars episode 6? With all due respect that may not be a very good analogy because if you recall Annakin DID bring balance to the force in the end by destroying the emperor.....

So to use that analogy implies that you believe in the end, Obama will be what the US needs to "bring balance" back to the country....

I understand what you were trying to say, but in the end...he takes off that helmet...

That said, in all honesty, I have seen a few people talk about "what he has done so far" in a negative light, but I have yet to see anyone really list anything that he has done that they do not like.

I understand that alot of people have a problem with how much money he is spending ( I am one of them) but what else is there?

I see people not wanting socialized healthcare and people claiming that a socialized healthcare system will turn our government into a socialist government.... But that is not true. The healthcare system and the government are two different entities. The healthcare system under a socialized system will be payed for by the government via taxes. Much the same as the US postal service, Public school systems, public libraries, police and fire departments etc.... Yes those things work withing a "socilaized system" Do you like the postal service, schools, libraries police stations and fire departments? I do... That system seems to work pretty well for them... Do you really think a socialized healthcare system is going to wipe out the entire country?

Other than that what other problems do people have with him? When I say problems I mean real problems with policy etc... Not just conspiracies about his BC or what have you... real issues. Could some one please explain it to me?

reply to post by gimme_some_truth



thanks for clearing that up. but lets dig a little deeper into that.
yea, in the end, he did take off his helmet, before he died...but at the same time, he caused more death and grief for the people than he should have because he was a power hungry man. =)

And I have a lot of issues with Obama, but I dont think that what topics you are trying to bait me into has anything to do with the current topic.
This threadis about his birth certifercate..not how he is doing as president.
We have other threads for that. no disrespect to you.

And how many of you have links to George W. Bush's "long form birth certificate"?

*crickets*

I thought so.

Oh, but since Bush is white and from Texas, no need to question that honorable man, right?

However, a black man with an international family background, well then, we must question him like no one has ever been questioned before.

This is a racist witch hunt, start to finish. Ask yourself, did you ever ask for George W. Bush's long form birth certificate. Did you read it with your own eyes?

How about Clinton's? George H.W., Reagan, Carter, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy, etc...???

Nope. None of you have ever seen or read the "long form birth certificate" of any U.S. President.

But now that we've got a black guy in the White House, suddenly it's top on your list of "must see's".

If it looks like racism, smells like racism, sounds like racism, then take a guess at what it is.

reply to post by MagicaRose


181 days! Happy? Why don't you enlighten us and this thread with your profound intellect and opinion on Obama, the economy, Constitutional law, and the history of the US?

reply to post by Zosynspiracy


I don't HAVE to enlighten anyone.
I have my opinion besides I like to INFORM people like you of their lack of knowledge.



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reply to post by harrytuttle


Oh brother every President you've mentioned has family roots in the US. That's a very silly point. It's obvious Bush was born in the US. It's obvious just about every other President you mentioned is an American citizen born in this country. Obama is the one with a Kenyan father who spent a large portion of his childhood abroad and in Muslim schools. It's a very valid inquisition. Nice playing the race card though!