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posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 03:32 PM
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OMG.

I am a single mother, with two children. Does that answer your question?

I would show you my Picture if THE MODS COULD ANSWER MY U2U's.

I cannot upload my picture to here. since the new u/l will not accept my password or members user name.

And for the record. I am not umemployed, I work my backside off for my kids. And I do not get any help from my ex either.....



[edit on 20-7-2009 by Laurauk]




posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by Laurauk
I do not want the topic changed tyvm.


YOU brought it up


Sanctions against Israel? Yup that will happen



They are building us up to go to war with Iran... as others have said the propaganda slinging will only get worse. Does it happen? Most likely, but using it as a tool to stir up anti Iranian muck is as reprehensible as the deed itself

We have already 'officially' told Israel we would not approve of them bombing Iran's nuclear facility. That was said so we would have a clean shirt when they finally do. Saudi's have already given permission for Israel to fly through their airspace...

Trust me this is only an opening shot in the propaganda war that is coming



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 03:37 PM
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Actually if you read the posts corectly. It was Mason who brought this up. I was agreeing with him.

So you have your assumtions wrong!!!

I knew you were going to roll your eyes.

I know sanctions against israel will not happen. But here is wishing. Am I wrong for not to wish?



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 03:50 PM
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Women are not there to lure you..and we are not wicked.
This is the great lie by the male who is ruled by his lust..
Are you so weak and of so little intellect that you cannot control yourself..
A man has the nature of the beast...you must choose..
Do you want to be a beast or do you want to be human..
Your choice..nothing to do with the woman



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 03:51 PM
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Modern law system is based off the Justinian code, it is not a carbon copy, it has changed and improved unlike Sharia Law. People may not be satisfied by common law but at least in common law the victim is not executed because relatives of the offender feel slighted.


Actually modern law is based on Common law and the rights identified in the Magna Carta. Justinian Code was a process of codifying imperial law and customery laws. Nothing special about that, Justin merely aped his Mesopotamian predecessor, Hammurabi.





Hamurabi's Code of Laws

While the precise date of Hammurabi's Code of Laws is disputed by scholars, it is generally believed to have been written between the second year of his reign, circa 1727 BCE, and the end of his reign, circa 1780 BCE, predating the Hebrew "Ten Commandments" by about 500 years. Perhaps the single most striking feature of Hammurabi's Code is its commitment to protection of the weak from being brutalized by the strong. He believed that he had been ordained by his gods Anu (God of the Sky) and Bel (The Lord of Heaven and Earth, the God of Destiny) to establish the rule of law and justice over his people. democraciaparticipativa.net...


Seems to me that even the Hebrews copied Hammurabi what with their Ten Commandments being remarkably similar.




Have you seen the news conferences? In Durham II, diplomats and representatives walking out left and right as Ahmadinejad attacked Israel through his speech. Shia militias such as Hamas and Hezbollah are funded by the Revolutionary Guard, best way to kill weeds is to go after the roots.


Hamas is not Shia, it's Sunni but you need to associate them with Iran so when Israel hoaxes the West into a war with Iran, it will embark on an extermination campaign in Gaza; to help out you see.

The beef with Hisb is because 5000 men handed the 40,000 armed to the teeth zionists their backsides. Hisb prevented Israel from stealing a 300 mile deep strip of land from the Lebanon.

Durban II conference was a world debate on racism and zionism=racism that is why JTA and JDL goons rioted in the conference to gag debate. The few representatives that walked out are from the few Western governments that are influenced by zionist interest. Did you note the people of colour from around the world stand up in ovation to Ahmedinejad?




They only voted for Hamas after the Fatah were ousted by the more radical group. The Fatah movement is the true Palestinian Authority, not a cowardly network of militants hiding among throngs of people.



Yeah right. For an Israeli supporter you seem to have a pulse on what Palestinians want. Pull the other leg, it has bells.




They do have border crossings to Egypt you know. West Bank has a border with Jordan.

Unfortunately, there are settlers and armed Occupation Forces standing in the way.

The Palestinians are being starved, but you hold up your arms and say they can leave their country. There are no borders on their beaches yet Israel blocks it. This kills your argument.




Its already been proven that they used white phosphorous shells, unfortunately for your platform, they used marker shells to let artillery and aerial strike teams know where to fire. As to the 1400 civilians, how can you be so sure when Hamas doesn't have uniforms or any identification of combat personnel. At least the Israelis took the time to make it known who they are.



So what you are saying is that just because the resistance does not have uniforms, Israel has no choice but to kill women and children?

Who proved that Israel was using phosphorous as markers? Don't the Israelis not know where is Gaza?

How come Israel was shelling civilians and using white phosphorous on them. Was it to mark out the civilians for shelling?

Incidentally, it is zionists that love 'platforms' to mount their propaganda campaigns such as MSN, megaphone and the current incursion on the internet by the IDF.


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posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 03:57 PM
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So you think Every woman or child that is raped enjoys this? OMG you have got to be joken right.


Laurauk, you have to read the several responses to my statement. You may alos want to do some research about rape, as your views are not in line with any accepted psychology or statistics.

I did not say a man should rape someone with the thought that they would enjoy it anyway. I said a man would be capable of having coerced intercourse regardless of his personal feelings about it. I.E. a man could be ordered to rape a woman and cry the whole time and kill himself afterwards, but his manly parts would still function properly! I also said that a lot of women struggle with guilt after a rape, because some physical aspects of the rape "may" be pleasurable regardless of the emotional toll it is taking. This is another well-documented phenomenon that rape counselors have to address. That does not mean that a woman wants to be raped, or that she is to blame in any way, or that the man can use "she enjoyed it" as a defense. Nothing is 100%, but it is naive to ignore the facts.

Areas with legalized prostitution and porn have much lower incidents of rape. So banning these sexual outlets only serves to increase sex crimes.

Saying girls need to cover-up is effectively blaming the women! You are a female, so if somebody rapes you and says you deserved it because of what you were wearing, you could agree with that?

You are criticizing religions, but your views and opinions seem to have been shaped by the mainstream, Protestant viewpoint that is portrayed in the press. If you truly despise organized religions, you should be open-minded enough, and educated enough to look into these matters for yourself and see sex as the biological function that it is.



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 04:16 PM
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You stated and I quote:




Originally posted by getreadyalready
He may even enjoy it, and hate himself that much more for enjoying it. Woman who are raped have this problem as well. The physical aspect can be enjoyable while the emotional aspect is heart-wrenching and guilt-filled!


Have you ever spoken to a rape victim?

Have you ever spoken to a vitcim of molestation?

Have you ever been through rape?

Have you ever been through molestation?

If not then you do not know what you are commenting about.



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by Laurauk
You stated and I quote:




Originally posted by getreadyalready
He may even enjoy it, and hate himself that much more for enjoying it. Woman who are raped have this problem as well. The physical aspect can be enjoyable while the emotional aspect is heart-wrenching and guilt-filled!


Have you ever spoken to a rape victim?

Have you ever spoken to a vitcim of molestation?

Have you ever been through rape?

Have you ever been through molestation?

If not then you do not know what you are commenting about.



Have you been to Iran?

Have you spoken to an Iranian?

Have you ever seen an Iranian?

Have you been a target of Israeli slander?

If not then you do not know what you are commenting about.



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 04:26 PM
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I have never personally been raped or molested. Otherwise yes on all counts, both personally and professionally.

I have personally known several victims of molestation, both boy and girl. I have personally known 2 rape victims. A girlfriend, who carried a lot of emotional baggage, and her offender never caught. And a cousin, who was the coolest, calmest, sneakiest victim ever, and her awareness helped catch the guy within days. She later went on to become a Baltimore Cop!

I have also trained and worked in a call center for rape victims, and my sister in law was the supervisor of the call center for Florida's Hotline into the Department of Children and Family Services.

I currently work for the Florida Department of Health, I am a Guardian Ad Litem, and I am in the process of becoming a Level II, Child Protection Services Investigator.

How about your resume?!?!?



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 04:26 PM
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Whenever I read an article that leaves me feeling seriously disgusted, horrified, angry, or otherwise overwrought, I try to step back and ask whether the article is based on fact. So often, it is those very article that arouse strong feelings, that turn out to be propaganda.

I don't know if this particular story is true. As far as I understand Islam and the mindset of Muslim theocracies, it is at least plausible. But of course, in order to get the most effect, a propaganda story would have to be plausible, as well as shocking.

I do know that in certain Muslim countries, women who are raped are stoned for adultery. They are buried up to their waists, and people toss huge stones at them to kill them. It is a brutal means of killing someone, and to kill a rape victim is the height (or depth) of injustice.

Islam is a great puzzle to most of the West. Islam's basic tenets are so far different from what we are familiar with that we often wholly fail to understand what they're doing, or why.

Suicide - strictly forbidden in Western religions - is an honored way to die, if you are fighting the enemy. In fact, dying in battle is the *only* way for a Muslim to go directly to Paradise without having to stand judgement. If you go to Allah with the blood of His enemies on your hands, you're immediately given virgins, wine, and the whole package. Otherwise, you are accountable for your misdeeds, and you just might not make the cut.

Considering the quality of life for most people in that part of the world, a glorious death fighting the "enemy" (that would be, any non-Muslim, and any Muslim who shows insufficient zeal in jihad) starts to look like a good move.

So who knows about this particular story? Accusations of atrocities are inevitable during a war. Unfortunately, there always seems to be some kernel of truth to them.



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by masonwatcher

Have you been to Iran?

Have you spoken to an Iranian?

Have you ever seen an Iranian?

Have you been a target of Israeli slander?

If not then you do not know what you are commenting about.


I know you're directing your slanted view of the world at Laurauk but allow me to answer those questions.

I actually have been to Iran, I stayed in Rasht (Its a nice town near the Caspian coast) for a week and witnessed corruption in the moral police (an acquaintance was able to pay them off), unfair arrests, and the so-called 'glamour' of the Revolutionary Guard.

I have talked to many Iranians. The recurring opinion of Iranian foreign policy and government is that it is completely ridiculous and the work of the clerics.

I've seen many Iranians.

I've been called out as a supporter of Hezbollah by an Israeli protester during protests downtown over the 2006 war in Lebanon.

I've been watching that region of the world from afar well enough to know what is going on. My knowledge of Iran's human rights abuses is 100% certified and fortified with Vitamin D3.



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 04:48 PM
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No matter what the punishment, Iran, along with many other countries practice barbaric inhumane actions against women.

I don't know how anyone can expect to reason with such a Country when they cannot even address the law based on laws of Man and not religion.

There is NO place for religion when it comes to the operation of a government-now that does not mean excluding "In God We Trust" from the hallmarks of our Government, only to state that our rule of justice should be administered to be fair and humane-it is and should be a universal right.

So much for the powers of the U.N.-Where are their bleeding hearts and outcries over this?
It seems to me there is a totally useless building called the UN in New York. They could not lead a paper trail.



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 04:52 PM
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I am constantly amazed when I read articles about muslim countries and how barbarric they are


There may be different laws in these countries, but it is their country, no one wants any child raped, but what is the difference between what happens in Iran and the US?

Children are taken from their families by force and then placed in foster care for protection only to be sexually assaulted by the people who are meant to be protecting them.

And don't say only one is approved by the country, because the goverment approves of the children being removed on the US.

So before picking up sticks and stones to throw to throw, take a look in your own backyards and you may see it isn't as clean as you thought.

Talk about "Deny ignorance" just being used as a new catch phrase.



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 04:57 PM
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If Iran was like Jordan, there would be way less problems in the region.



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by Dnevnoi

Originally posted by masonwatcher

Have you been to Iran?

Have you spoken to an Iranian?

Have you ever seen an Iranian?

Have you been a target of Israeli slander?

If not then you do not know what you are commenting about.


I know you're directing your slanted view of the world at Laurauk but allow me to answer those questions.

I actually have been to Iran, I stayed in Rasht (Its a nice town near the Caspian coast) for a week and witnessed corruption in the moral police (an acquaintance was able to pay them off), unfair arrests, and the so-called 'glamour' of the Revolutionary Guard.

I have talked to many Iranians. The recurring opinion of Iranian foreign policy and government is that it is completely ridiculous and the work of the clerics.

I've seen many Iranians.

I've been called out as a supporter of Hezbollah by an Israeli protester during protests downtown over the 2006 war in Lebanon.

I've been watching that region of the world from afar well enough to know what is going on. My knowledge of Iran's human rights abuses is 100% certified and fortified with Vitamin D3.


Good for you yet you add grist to the mill for war. You will find corruption everywhere so I don't get your point. Like many people, I have been harassed by police in the UK and while coming out of university with two dog eared library books on structural concrete design tucked under my arm.

I have also spoken to Iranians and Israeli while at university. I can truthfully say that the Iranian students were decent human beings without exception while the Israeli students were a mixed bunch. Still doesn't prove anything.

In the end, no matter how bad the Iranian government is, it is up to the Iranian people to deal with their leaders, not Israel and its howl for war.

You can't pretend to be even handed when you have just debased Iranians with you comments and personal anecdote. I comes across as disingenuous.



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 04:58 PM
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Women died for women's freedoms, your freedoms.
You would have us abandon our sisters..who will fight for them if not we the women?.
I was born free...is not freedom for all..are you ok so forget the rest?.
We should make a noise that is heard in heaven..they made us MEAT.
Only as a family are we going to make it here..so we better start standing up for each other..



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 05:00 PM
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Originally posted by Dnevnoi
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If Iran was like Jordan, there would be way less problems in the region.


If Israel was like Jordan, there would be no more wars in the world.

Remember Georgia? When the Russians came stomping, it was like rats escaping a sinking ship.



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 05:03 PM
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Were there Israeli soldiers in Georgia? I wasn't aware of that info...

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posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 05:06 PM
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Israel isn't like Jordan. Jordan is a largely Muslim nation with a government who has a moderate government with a well-educated population. If Iran were to reduce the power reserved by the clerics and theocracy and give that power to moderates who want to create progress in the country rather than war, they wouldn't be arch-enemies to Israel.

If Israel was like Jordan, which they largely are with the exception of monarchy and expeditionary forces, they would be peaceful but still a target to radicals and Iran.



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 05:09 PM
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Masonwatcher is relying on irrelevant examples to draw attention away from the topic. Georgia was once a Soviet satellite but now it is a completely independent country that was attacked by a larger aggressive country, namely Russia. The semi-autonomous region of Abkhazia was the main reason that Russia invaded Georgia even though it had no right to. Georgia, oddly enough, bought UAVs from Israel for surveillance of the Russo-Georgian border.



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