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Bohemian Grove: Illuminati Meet This Week for Satanic Rituals

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posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 06:10 PM
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Is it true that you can eat as many lobster tails as you like ?

Take care.

Regards
Lee





posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 08:44 PM
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A lot of these posts refer to the Moloch rituals that symbolize human sacrifice. Not that I am defending these people at all, but Moloch as a spiritual entity is a representation of knowledge and the rituals symbolize the sacrifice his followers are willing to give in order to gain access to it.

Really, it could be anything (most far less socially disturbing than child sacrifice) from burning your Rolls Royce in ritual, to giving a family heirloom, to one's own blood (and even perhaps some flesh like the tip of your finger) if that is what you prize.

The idea is giving up your most prized possession (one's offspring is how they choose to worship Moloch, which taints everything) in exchange for the knowledge of the ages. In other words, these people pay lip service to an ancient nature deity with a bad reputation for being affiliated with child sacrifice, and darkness, who are no smarter and knowledgeable after the ceremony than they were before.

Blasting the Illuminati, NWO, or Freemasons as Satan worshipers does not delve deep enough into the heart of the issues presented by the Bohemian Grove and those who attend the festivities.

These people are members of an elite clique whose real purpose is control and luxury. Look at people in politics (like commentators and pundits) who are now actively pursuing the concept of individual freedom and free trade in American politics. This concept drains authority from the citizens and gives it to the elite, who then pride themselves for all the work the citizens provide for them.

Really, what does Moloch have to do with world politics? Almost nothing, but it is the operating mentality that allows these people to act behind the scenes, gathering every last scrap of money, power, and freedom, while denying these privileges to the less fortunate who 'obviously deserve' their fates for not being privileged in the first place.

This is all connected, and backdoor deals, wars, political structures, mystery cults and much more go hand in hand when looking at the greater picture.
Even if Satan had anything to do with this, doesn't Satan mean deceiver anyways? The NWO is all about deception, and it is easy to trace connections, but blaming Satan is an excuse, and will never allow for a deeper look into what is really going on behind the scenes.

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posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 09:44 PM
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who cares about bohemian grove, lmao. Its just a bunch of rich dudes who get together and dress up in drag and screw around. As far as worshipping a owl, well I don't think anyone can point fingers, so many people on this earth worship false gods and the owl isn't even a god I think it just symbolizes knowledge. And its hilarious hearing yall rant about masons, being a mason myself its just funny. So many of you are completely clueless especially about masons. I can safely say we don't worship satan or anything, thats rediculous.

And as far as the illuminati as a actual group, many people have pointed out that there is no proof at all they exist today.

Anyways don't even respond to me, I hate this section of the site, so much ignorance here its astounding.


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[edit on 4-8-2009 by jeasahtheseer]



posted on Aug, 9 2009 @ 07:49 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that the Illuminati were anti-religion, or if religious at all. more gnostic than anything. I never understand this Satan-Illuminati connection.



posted on Aug, 9 2009 @ 06:25 PM
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"I'm part of a secret society... I can't tell you what we do, but don't worry because it isn't anything bad."

I guess we just have to take your word for it then?



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 09:56 AM
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my previous post was stupid.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME???
were talking about the WORLD LEADERS here, doing secret creepy RITUALS, making SACRIFICIES to MOLOCH?! and u think that dosnt deserve attencion?
our world most powerfull people know and practice esoteric knowledge,belief and spells to moloch,and they WERENT going to do it,if it was for nothing.
they CONTROL the world with sacred geometry and isoteric magick and worship.
for god sake its the same owl as on the one dollar bill in the right upper corner!
our world leaders are frikking creepy magicians/cultists who use ancient rituals and magic to keep them in power or have luck or something what the?
and we dont do nothing,we just let them make all the important decisions,why we suffer,why no work,why no salaries,why fluorine in water.WAKE THE **** UP!



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 04:43 PM
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If that was what happened at the Bohemian Grove, I would agree with you. Fact is, there is zero Moloch worshiping happening. If the fat cats are worshiping anyone, it's themselves. If you disagree with that, you're going to have to present some evidence to counter the multiple eye-witness testimonies we've provided.



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 04:45 PM
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don't know man,but hidden camera footage shows a owl statue and somekinda sacrifice? i dont have very proof,but from first look seems scary enough



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 12:38 AM
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Originally posted by Stillalive
... i dont have very [sic] proof, but from first look seems scary enough


Stillalive, if you're really interested in this topic and willing to do some reading, go backwards up the reply chain and click on the link in one of my prior posts called "Social Cohesion & the Bohemian Grove" -- written by a sociology professor at UC Santa Cruz. It might explain some of the things with which you're unfamiliar. There's also a ton of material on ATS if you go to search and type in "Bohemian Club" or "Bohemian Grove". Some of it is a bit hysterical and breathless; some of it is actual and valid.

The Bohemians revere the owl as a symbol of wisdom -- a hidebound over-the-top ceremony on the lake in front of a giant stage prop kicks off their 2 weeks of carefree summer abandonment. The allegorical ritual ties them to 100+ years of members before them. (Much like a lone torch entering an arena and lighting a cauldron sets off a famous international athletic celebration.) Nobody's worshipping the cauldron; nobody's worshipping the owl.

The members would laugh their asses off if you suggested they were worshipping Moloch.

It's a stage show. It's an old allegorical play. It's part of their tradition of art and theater. (Read the article and you'll understand more.)

Mostly, the members would tell you that what they're really looking forward to is a week or two of forest retreat away from their wives, and most especially to drinking with their buddies.

Cheers,
Sandalfon



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 06:55 AM
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Originally posted by Stillalive
don't know man,but hidden camera footage shows a owl statue and somekinda sacrifice? i dont have very proof,but from first look seems scary enough


This is the crux of 90% of all conspiracy theories. Seeing something, and not understanding. We then apply what we do understand and attach it to what we don't understand.. this way we come out of the experience a little more comforted if we can place "good" or "bad" on what we witness.

In all actuality the ritual could be entirely harmless, very symbolic, and have a very pleasant meaning behind it.

But if all we see is just a glimps of something that we don't understand, we attach this negative connotation to it and turn it into something it's not. Fact remains we don't know if the Owl is some long lost God being worshiped or if it's a statue symbolizing Wisdom or Knowledge. We come to one set of conclusion irrationality, and completely unfounded.

Many people also fear what is considered "Secret" .. knowledge that is not granted often inspires envy and rage .. how dare they keep us in the dark! .. And we forget a principle belief of our own Western ideologies and specifically the US Constitution that affords us the right to form private organizations away from the prying eye where membership is exclusive. This is also a big reason many people have issues with Masonry, is the notion of Secrecy (even though in Masonry there is no secrecy left, only respect for tradition) .. It's entirely unfounded, and the motions are baseless with no supporting facts.. "secrecy is bad" and that's all the reason some people need.

The Bohemian Grove in particular plays on our imagination.. you have

Wealth
Power
Secrecy
Strange Rituals
Exclusiveness
Famous Members

It inspires the thrill of a classic mystery novel or movie, surely anything with this much prestige is evil?? I however feel comfortable knowing that far worse takes place at your local country club than at the Bohemian Grove..


Of course I have no proof what so ever.


They still won't invite me....



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 05:46 PM
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My opinion is pretty simple, really: the CFR, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderburg Group and the Bohemian Grove folks all exist. We have seen membership lists, we know where and when they meet. I'll even go one further and allow that a few members of any or all of those groups may even be Masons! No real secret there except, perhaps, the contents of their meetings and what goes on "behind the scenes."


I think people get all wrapped up in a name or title of a group and that clouds the issue. Such as this "new world order". I've been locked in heated debate with the editor of wiki's page on NWO conspiracy theory, who seems intent on ridiculing the notion that powerful people conspire behind the scenes to retain and expand their power. I don't care what they call themselves or what CT believers want to call them, they exist and putting a title on them often just gives doubters an opportunity to deny those with the title that may be wrong.

NWO conspiracy theory wiki article talk page archive

(if you like there is the bulk of that debate, the editor of that page repeatedly cites this idiot sociologist from US Santa Cruz named Domhoff who has done several pieces on Bohemian Grove. He seems to be on a mission to discredit any theory of the rich and powerful having plans and goals or sharing them with their peers. As if history is all random and any endeavor worth doing can be done without a plan. His arguments are rife with logical fallacies and god help me if I ever took a course by this jackass because if he didn't kick me out the first week he'd fail me because I'd challenge his faulty logic he uses to support his beliefs on a daily basis)

The wiki editor I'm arguing with to his (minimal) credit concedes the socio-economic theory called "Empire" is what NWO CT's mistake for a conspiracy. He does enjoy lumping anyone who doesn't suck up to the establishment status quo in with extremists like David Icke and UFO believers, which is quite annoying. Anyway...

See what missing blue sky said above your post about forming bonds and networking.

I don't think the Boho boys are satan worshippers and I couldn't give a rat's ass if they were, (as I understand it most satanists form their beliefs as a result of christianity's oppression and guilt traditions anyway)

The concern is that this is a vehicle for powerful and greedy people to consolodate their power for their own benefit and our (the masses) detriment and I think it's a legit concern.

And I can't help but think that a lot of critics have an underlying sentiment such as my own: I'm just pissy that I didn't get an invite too. That's a normal human reaction, resent over our exclusion.

The freemasons are getting the same flak for the same reason. We don't know what goes on in your lodges and we weren't invited so don't be surprised when we make the worst assumptions of it, mystery breeds speculation and our exclusion causes that speculation to be colored by resent.



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 06:15 PM
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Sandalfon, I assume you are referring to Domhoff, see my post above.

If you really read Domhoff's arguments they are full of logical fallacies that, the way he presents them, can only be called intellectual dishonesty.

Such as he will argue there are no such things as secretive conspiracies agreed upon by the elite power brokers in dark smoky rooms..... but of course there are agreements that are not publicly divulged by them made during their conferences and that's all perfectly normal.

About Bohemian Grove he argues that big deals aren't made there... because they could be made anywhere else. That's not a denial it's dodging the point.

He also staunchly defends the concept that Council on Foreign Relations is an innocent little group of policy advisors, with silly logic like "they could have no secret plans because they have over 3,000 members, far too many to keep a secret- and their reports are made public in their archives"

Which is BS to the point of being an insult.

Laurence Shoup wrote a book on CFR called "imperial brain trust" which is given legitimacy by acknowledgement from the CFR itself.

Some excerpts are here:

CFR by Shoup

The acknowledgement by CFR, which I will provide here:

CFR further reading page




The most important critical analysis of the Council is: Laurence H. Shoup and William Minter, Imperial Brain Trust: The Council on Foreign Relations and United States Foreign Policy (New York: Monthly Review Press, 1977)


Is as good as factual proof that what Domhoff bizarrely pushes about the CFR is complete bull****. As what his agenda does is allow these people to continue to consolodate their powers and march toward a goal of capitalistic benefit for them by socialist enslavement of the masses, I am not ashamed to allude to what I'd do if I could get my hands around the neck of that guy.

Read what Shoup reveals about the CFR's role in our "democracy":

Bush, Kerry and the CFR

A lot of truth in there, when you see that all of a sudden so many of the contradictions about the Iraq war (which I staunchly defend, believe it or not) between the parties in 2004 now make complete sense.



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