Bohemian Grove: Illuminati Meet This Week for Satanic Rituals, page 3

My opinion is pretty simple, really: the CFR, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderburg Group and the Bohemian Grove folks all exist. We have seen membership lists, we know where and when they meet. I'll even go one further and allow that a few members of any or all of those groups may even be Masons! No real secret there except, perhaps, the contents of their meetings and what goes on "behind the scenes."

I think people get all wrapped up in a name or title of a group and that clouds the issue. Such as this "new world order". I've been locked in heated debate with the editor of wiki's page on NWO conspiracy theory, who seems intent on ridiculing the notion that powerful people conspire behind the scenes to retain and expand their power. I don't care what they call themselves or what CT believers want to call them, they exist and putting a title on them often just gives doubters an opportunity to deny those with the title that may be wrong.

NWO conspiracy theory wiki article talk page archive

(if you like there is the bulk of that debate, the editor of that page repeatedly cites this idiot sociologist from US Santa Cruz named Domhoff who has done several pieces on Bohemian Grove. He seems to be on a mission to discredit any theory of the rich and powerful having plans and goals or sharing them with their peers. As if history is all random and any endeavor worth doing can be done without a plan. His arguments are rife with logical fallacies and god help me if I ever took a course by this jackass because if he didn't kick me out the first week he'd fail me because I'd challenge his faulty logic he uses to support his beliefs on a daily basis)

The wiki editor I'm arguing with to his (minimal) credit concedes the socio-economic theory called "Empire" is what NWO CT's mistake for a conspiracy. He does enjoy lumping anyone who doesn't suck up to the establishment status quo in with extremists like David Icke and UFO believers, which is quite annoying. Anyway...

See what missing blue sky said above your post about forming bonds and networking.

I don't think the Boho boys are satan worshippers and I couldn't give a rat's ass if they were, (as I understand it most satanists form their beliefs as a result of christianity's oppression and guilt traditions anyway)

The concern is that this is a vehicle for powerful and greedy people to consolodate their power for their own benefit and our (the masses) detriment and I think it's a legit concern.

And I can't help but think that a lot of critics have an underlying sentiment such as my own: I'm just pissy that I didn't get an invite too. That's a normal human reaction, resent over our exclusion.

The freemasons are getting the same flak for the same reason. We don't know what goes on in your lodges and we weren't invited so don't be surprised when we make the worst assumptions of it, mystery breeds speculation and our exclusion causes that speculation to be colored by resent.