Originally posted by Republican08
Which either ultimately we meet at either evolution, alien drop offs, creation, and other theories.
I'd like to look at the most commonly assumed one. Creation!
We have been given severely disputable answers by creationist.
But ultimately, and many will proclaim spiritually, we may be leaners on terms of the origin of humans, or species of that matter.
But if there is a Divine being. Yahweh, Brahma vishnu krishna, Allah, Zeus. Whichever is your liking.
I'll answer your questions. But I think before you ask where something came from, you need to first understand what it is, and is not. And to be
completely honest, before you can even understand that, you must first understand exactly who/what you actually are. If you do not have these
understandings, then you will likely not understand the rest.
First, what you must realize is that the universe/creation is just a program. Does these mean god has a PC? Not exactly. The laws of the
universe are just logic. Action and reaction. No free will, no choice it just does as the logic has dictated.
In the beginning, there was only the "word". This is true of all programs. They start out as words/logic. Based on logic only, does forums like
these are other things come to be. The universe is based on logic and is a program.
The father is basically the consciousness of all things. He is the one who created the logic of the program etc. The observer. It is that bit
within you that gives you those abilities as well. To understand, to reason, to feel, to observe and to know what it means to be.
So what is of the flesh is flesh, and what is of the spirit is spirit. 2 domains/realms. The flesh comes from the dust of the earth. The flesh
is part of the program.
After creation is made, the "spirit of the Lord" enters into the program and brings it to life. And it is that spirit within you that gives you
that "life". So, to really understand things, you need to find out what is really "you", to find and understand that spirit, then you can start
to grasp the father.
Start up a video game, it's just a bunch of numbers/logic and patterns going on. The AI doesn't know it's AI, it's just following the patterns
like a clock does. It doesn't come to life until consciousness observes it. Until you start playing, then choices can be made and the game
begins. Same principle.
This is why it is said you are hated because you are not of this world. Things of this world are the program. Action and reaction, logic and so
forth. A rocket has no free will, is of this world and those who seek power love them some rockets. Introduce the correct action, get the
reaction you want. That equals power and control. But because you have the father within you and are not of the program, you can not be controlled
so easily, and thus you are hated for it by those who seek power. So the manipulation of the world is basically to turn people into action/reaction
robots where they can introduce the actions they want, to bring about the reactions in the people. Create the problem, offer the solution etc.
Where did they come about from (besides atheist criticism in retorting imagination)?
From those who started to realize what it meant to be conscious. They started to question reality, they could see the difference, and they asked
questions. Those deep questions that run through the mind at night. From the very question you ask yourself - what is it for, what does it mean,
and why am I able to ponder such questions in the first place.
It seems hard to expect answers from a divine being, god, deity, without asking the question of where it came from?
Looking for god in creation itself is like trying to find Bill Gates inside your Windows OS. He isn't "out there", he is "within you". Know
thyself. The answers will come if you seek, but you ask men and others for your answers and seek their approval on yours. In doing so, you look
for what you can accept, rather than what you can understand. And the path to the father is guided by understanding and wisdom, not by acceptance.
Atheists and Christians(other religions too) alike accept the same things, that is all that is wanted. Especially since you can plot them against each
other and make them think if they can just get rid of them all will be good(it won't).
It's not really something someone can tell you(accept). It's an understanding.
Would this of been so hard to mention in the testament, or was it deemed something irrelevant?
You don't teach a 5 year old quantum physics. Understanding and intelligence has a range or levels. In order for humans to recognize something as
intelligence, it has to be within our range of understanding. You could come across something extremely intelligent, and it wouldn't be
recognizable as intelligent.
These things are expressed in the bible, they just aren't in modern terms/understanding so it's not easy to see. Imagine going back in time that
far back and trying to explain what a computer is, or how words/logic can create things - even worlds/universes(we call them virtual worlds). Even in
how you acted, they might think you are mentally retarded.
If you're a fan of evolution, then it really is like trying to teach physics to a monkey. You give them the understanding they can handle for the
time, in a way they can understand it. Show someone who lived 200 years ago an iphone and explain it to them how it works.