Originally posted by Jenna
Or perhaps it's a much needed bill that will prevent any future issues when it comes to presidents.
Which as I told you before Jenna, and which I will repeat, the bill is a moot because regardless of whether your the president or a teacher you are
protected by the 14th admendemnt of the constitution where you are not legally obligated to release your long form birth certificate.
Mr Posey cannot change that, all he has done in this bill is to reaffirm the fact that there needs to be verified documents to prove eligibility, to
which the short form birth certificate is under law legal already enough to confirm eligibility (the majority of the other 44 only presented their
short forms). So the bill doesnt change anything. Had Mr Posey made it specifically clear that he was refering to the long form then maybe then it
would change the laws (provided it even gains the support), but even then its a moot of a bill in the case of birthers because
those documents that
birthers demanded are protected under the constitution, 14th admendment. They cannot demand it without Obamas consent.
Whatever suspicions you have over Obama the bill essentially challanges the 14th admendment and although Mr Posey has every right to question, this
bill of his to change that side of the constitution will not get a "blink" in DC.
Best not to claim things that you don't know and can't prove.
Its not something I have to prove, Obamas eligibility was confirmed on December 15th 2008 during his presidential confirmation. That is that his
eligibility was confirmed by congress. Congress cannot now legally request those private documents that are protected by the 14th admendment of the
constitution unless evidence is provided that Obama was born off soil, which we are waiting for birthers to show us.
Perhaps because it's not supposed to be specific to Obama, but is instead a proposed bill to apply to all future presidential candidates.
I apologize for confusing you, I meant the bill doesnt distinguish the difference between the long form and the short form. Mr Posey in his bill
merely make it clear that the birth certificate must be presented by all candidates for the presidency. Obama has already presented his short form
birth certificate which has been verified by the state Hawaii and the Hawaiian health department. The short for birth certificate is by US law
the
legal certification of birth.
So this bill from Posey changes nothing really, it just reaffirms what Obama just did. This is why Im saying this is a stunt by Mr Posey and Birthers,
because the bill itself changes little to nothing, its only cause for attention.
No, you are misleading in pretending that this is only meant to apply to Obama when it very clearly is not.
Right:
All the lawsuits in the world are not going to change that. But if what some folks are worried about – that presidential candidates don’t
have to submit to the same documentation that average folks have to submit to – well, then we can change that for the next election.
washingtonindependent.com...
Let me guess, I took him out of context here? Well I guess the reader can decide. By the way, most americans dont carry their long form birth
certificates around, we dont see folks with multiple paged documents with their personal birth information on it getting their drivers licence, they
use
their short form birth certificates.
On the contrary, it is not currently required that candidates show legal certification of birth.
Well then, looks like Obama already jumped that hoop for your folks well in advance. He presented his short form which was verified by the health
department.
Requiring presidential candidates to prove their eligibility just as you or I have to prove our citizenship to gain employment is taking away
rights?
Here let me refraise that for you. Demanding personal documents of your birth are protected by the constitution.
The short form birth
certificate should be sufficient enough to prove under US law your eligibility for the presidency. Nobody has the right to demand any vaulted
documents of yours that is personal.
Oh yes and the way, if an individual is willing not to present his private documents while in a job, if its not in his or her contract,
they are
not required to legally under the law.
In case you missed it, Rep. Posey is a Representative in the House of Representatives which is part of Congress.
He is huh? Looks like he missed that presidential confirmation 8 months ago... maybe then he might have had a chance to gather enough minions to
"demand" that long form. The confirmation already passed, he is and has been the president of these United states now for 7 months. The only way you
can get those documents
is by bringing up solid evidence where he will then be required to show his long form if he intends to discredit
them.
SG
