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Gov Paying Over a Half Million Dollars a Pound for Sliced Ham?

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posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 07:31 AM
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Where's that story again about the US government spending $10,000 on Ash-Trays.
At first, you might think Oh-kay then, but for a Fighter Jet.




posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 07:38 AM
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Hey, Obama is just bringing home the bacon, so to speak. He's probably taking it with him to a state dinner with Islamic nation's leaders. Always seeking to impress, you know. Don't you just love ObamaNation?



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posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 07:52 AM
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Not all of this pertains to masking Black budgets. In Halliburton's case its all about PROFITS !
If we really want to see the misuse of taxpayer money one needs to look no further than the NO BID contracts awarded to Dick Cheney's Halliburton and it's subsidiary KBR where they were investigated and fined $8 million for overbilling and fraudulent activities for contracts dating all the way back to 1999 and 2000 during the campaigns in Kosovo as well as Iraq and Kuwait.


War indeed is a Racket !


Excerpted from the Washington Post article:

"The accusations, made under the federal False Claims Act, included double-billing, inflating prices and providing products that didn't fit the Army's needs during the construction of Camp Bondsteel in Kosovo."

www.washingtonpost.com...


And in Iraq and Kuwait... found in Googles Cache...site is down.

June 16, 2004 – A Pentagon audit has found "significant" over-billing by Halliburton and its subsidiaries in Iraq and Kuwait, which may amount to $8 billion. Halliburton employees told Congressman Henry Waxman that subcontractors billed $100 for a 15-pound bag of laundered clothes, and abandoned $85,000 trucks by the roadside when they experienced simple maintenance problems, including a flat tire. Halliburton and its subsidiary, Kellogg Brown and Root, have been the source of repeated claims of over-billing since last spring. The first scandal involved a March 2003 no-bid contract worth up to $7 billion, which they received ostensibly to fight oil fires in Iraq. In December 2003, KBR was caught charging the US army $1.59 per gallon for oil imported from Kuwait, Iraq?s neighbour, for which it paid only 70 cents per gallon. A few weeks later KBR was caught over-billing the US army by $16 million for soldier?s meals, according to Le Monde Diplomatique.
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In addition to the $7 billion oil-fire contract, KBR also billed $4.5 billion for unrelated logistics contracts in Kuwait and Iraq, the Financial Times reported. Vice-President Dick Cheney, former Halliburton head, still receives deferred income from the company and holds 433,000 stock options.


74.125.47.132...:nZVJyUVKN2sJ:newstandardnews.net/content/index.cfm/items/561+halliburton+over+billing&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 08:33 AM
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I don't care if it's 2 pounds or 2 million pounds of sliced ham. What's in this "recovery" plan should make Americans sick. We should be grabbing our pitchforks and torches and heading to Washington DC to oust our so-called leaders.

What this wild, unregulated spending shows is that the rich that have controlled this country since before it became a country are still playing the same game they've enjoyed all along: while they pander to the masses and tell them how this will benefit us all, in reality, 99% of the benefit falls into the government's (and their cronies) lap.

Watch how this national health care idea will be pitched to the public as a "benefit to all" when the hidden costs and profits will really lie somewhere else. And instead of the health care system improving in the US, it will collapse in every possible way - service, proficiency, etc.

The power grab is on, people. So many drank the Obama kool-aid, those in control think they can ram anything down our throats now. If we don't even attempt to reclaim the country, we will be spending half a million on two pounds of half.



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 09:05 AM
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Originally posted by Teknikal
Non story it was 760,000lbs of Ham a brief google search revealed this rather quickly.

Link is to a pdf file

PDF report

To be honest if it was a real story it wouldn't really surprise me that much though.


Good find. Unfortunately, most people will read the OP's post and nothing more. People look at this recovery.gov page as something like a videotaped confession of a bank robber. Unfortunately, if someone was going to steal money or spend it on a bribe, it's unlikely they would keep thorough records of the transaction and the bribe recipient online.

This is simply an order of so many cans of ham. Nevertheless, I am sure Fox News will pick up this story and then issue a retraction at 3am. Some of the people on this site would much rather have Obama feed visiting foreign dignitaries saltine crackers and a glass of water with sliced lemon, just so he looks bad.



[edit on 20-7-2009 by andrewh7]



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 09:22 AM
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Originally posted by MrParanoid
I don't care if it's 2 pounds or 2 million pounds of sliced ham. What's in this "recovery" plan should make Americans sick. We should be grabbing our pitchforks and torches and heading to Washington DC to oust our so-called leaders.

What this wild, unregulated spending shows is that the rich that have controlled this country since before it became a country are still playing the same game they've enjoyed all along: while they pander to the masses and tell them how this will benefit us all, in reality, 99% of the benefit falls into the government's (and their cronies) lap.

Watch how this national health care idea will be pitched to the public as a "benefit to all" when the hidden costs and profits will really lie somewhere else. And instead of the health care system improving in the US, it will collapse in every possible way - service, proficiency, etc.

The power grab is on, people. So many drank the Obama kool-aid, those in control think they can ram anything down our throats now. If we don't even attempt to reclaim the country, we will be spending half a million on two pounds of half.


Prior to Obama, the US government would never dreamed of purchasing large quantities of ham. As we all know, ham is an expensive delicacy that only the Washington elite can afford. Most of us have only seen bacon on TV or heard of it in legends. I once met a man who claimed to have tasted Bacon at a secret military base in Nevada known only as "Denny's." He also claimed that pork products were so plentiful there that he witnessed people eating TWO pork chops each during a single meal. Obviously, my source will have to remain anonymous but I can personally vouch for his credibility.

If the US government is going to use our tax dollars to purchase pig meat and, god forbid, bird meat as well, an overthrow of the government seems to be our only option. After all, I saw a history channel special that stated Hitler had used German taxpayer money to purchase ham as well. Coincidence? I think not.

MrParanoid is absolutely right. If we stand for ham purchases, health care will be no different - with the costs hidden on publicly accessible websites ending in .gov. I nominate MrParanoid to lead the Ham revolt. We will raid the White House deli and return the ham to the people. For too long, we've allowed Honduras to make the great strides in civil liberties that we were too afraid to make. We let the soviets put the first man in space and let the Hondurans remove their elected president in a military coup before we could here.

We must commit ourselves, before this decade is out, of placing frozen ham on the moon and returning it safely to the Earth - not because it is easy, but because it is hard. Frozen Ham is really really hard.


[edit on 20-7-2009 by andrewh7]



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 09:52 AM
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Here's one for canned fruit.

What does this mean?

The government has, and more than likely - will always have, extremely poor record keeping abilities. Especially when it comes to descriptions specifics.

While it's not beyond the realm of possibility for the administration to grant a contract of over a million dollars for 2 lbs. of ham it's highly unlikely and this won't go overlooked if it turns out to be true.

What's more likely is that $1 million plus was awarded to a company to provide a certain number (un-specified in the documentation) of sliced hams over a certain period of time.



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by Teknikal
Non story it was 760,000lbs of Ham a brief google search revealed this rather quickly.

Link is to a pdf file

PDF report

To be honest if it was a real story it wouldn't really suprise me that much though.


No way!!!! The original poster used at least two or three exclamation points on each line, though!!!! No way they could be wrong!!! No way!!! Deny ignorance!!! Loud noises!!!

Seriously, folks. Good example here of how being loud does not make you correct. Please do some research before you post outlandish claims.



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 10:12 AM
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I'm glad some people think everything in the stimulus plan was money well spent. Just sit back and wait for the government to come bail us all out. That's what the federal government was meant to do, right? Take care of each and every citizen as if we were their children. I mean that what we want to be in America is a bunch of socialists, right? It's perfectly fine that the government owns GM, many of the major banks, and soon the entire health care industry. THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF US AND MAKE ALL THE BAD THINGS GO AWAY.

Read some history. This is just part of a larger power grab meant to make them rich and make us their servants. They don't need to hide things anymore because no one fights back.



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 10:13 AM
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....wheez...gasp....wipes tears from cheeks....

Thanks for hamming it up! ....sorry...couldn't resist....

I'm going to invest in companies that build knee replacement prostheses. Lots of people will need them after such knee jerk reactions these days.

Read more, jerk less. oh, oh, ham jerky syndrome...I'll stop here.



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 10:49 AM
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What is more interesting than the contract itself is that we're on a conspiracy message board in the middle of a recession, many predicting complete economic collapse.... And nobody is asking "For what reason is the government spending $17 million on pork, $6 million on cheese, and $9 million on Del Monte products?"



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 10:53 AM
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Using the numbers for the PDF thoughtfully added, the ham seems pretty cheap @ $1.57 per lb. I think the bigger question is why those 19 cities of deliver and to what organizations. I mean, if it's for emergency food assistance programs, are those cities the poorest? And if so, wouldn't it make more sense to send vouchers to shelters and allow them to spend on what is needed? And, why the > 6.6 million pounds of WHOLE hams in 3 and 10 lb sizes? It seems that cooking whole hams would contribute to waste. And, why 1.6 million lbs of DICED ham? You can't make sandwiches or anything out of that.

You see where I'm headed...



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 11:04 AM
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Does anyone here know if this is happening in the UK as wel, any links?



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 11:04 AM
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Come on now, you don't actually think that much money is going to frozen sliced ham do you? This is just like them saying they spend 300,000 on a toliet seat. There is more to it than what it is. Our "tax dollars" is actually not our money. It's whatever our government wants to do with it but maybe give us a peace of mind telling us that money is actually ours. Either this money is going toward a campaign contribution, bribe, or some other kind of business, or some kind of "secret" funding.



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 11:28 AM
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I think regardless of what actually happened, people will find a conspiracy where they expect.



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 11:38 AM
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What it's for:

www.ams.usda.gov... =&leftNav=CommodityPurchasing&acct=cmdtyprchs


AMS purchases a variety of food products in support of the National School Lunch program and other Federal Feeding programs. These purchases also help to stabilize prices in agricultural commodity markets by balancing supply and demand. Fresh and processed food customarily purchased under these programs include fruits and vegetable, beef and pork, poultry and egg products, and fish.


School lunches and feeding programs....

[edit on 20/7/2009 by Iamonlyhuman]



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by MrParanoid
reply to post by andrewh7
 


I'm glad some people think everything in the stimulus plan was money well spent. Just sit back and wait for the government to come bail us all out. That's what the federal government was meant to do, right? Take care of each and every citizen as if we were their children. I mean that what we want to be in America is a bunch of socialists, right? It's perfectly fine that the government owns GM, many of the major banks, and soon the entire health care industry. THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF US AND MAKE ALL THE BAD THINGS GO AWAY.

Read some history. This is just part of a larger power grab meant to make them rich and make us their servants. They don't need to hide things anymore because no one fights back.


MrParanoid is right again. As freedom fighters, my men and I have personally liberated most of southeastern Michigan. Everyday, we kill dozens of communists, easily distinguishable from the general population by their hybrid automobiles and college degrees. Although Fox News has taught us that college campuses are packed with communists, we must continue to accuse them of being uneducated. The obvious contradiction will distract their minds as we retake this great land of ours.

Some said that using the movie "Red Dawn" to dictate military strategy was foolish, but the film clearly proved that small group of rebel soldiers led by a crashed air force pilot can stop waves of communist sleeper cells disguised as ordinary American families. We nearly lost everything at the Battle of the Motorcity Casino, but we survived! Honestly, it wasn't until that infamous June morning when we recaptured the Booby Trap on 8 Mile that I knew this war could be won. Without a renowned gentleman's club like the Booby Trap in their possession, the Reds morale was irreparably damaged.

One day, my grandchildren will stand on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial knowing that everyone who could have possibly defeated President Palin in a popular election is dead. We won't need taxpayer money to pay for police or public utilities. Rather, a strong faith in Jesus Christ will power our street lamps and enforce the law. Health care will obviously be unnecessary at this point as God will reward us for killing all the communists by allowing our wounds to heal instantly. At this point, we'll just sit around waiting for the rapture to come.

Until then, WE FIGHT ON!
USA USA USA



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 11:56 AM
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I have a question the school lunches part. Most schools are closed right now and all the ones I'm familiar with order their food through companies like sysco foods. So why is this going to schools, and what schools?
Of course that was a maybe two years ago and since then every school in the county arranged to eat the same food from the same place on the same day, so maybe that's changed since then.



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by libertarianlady
Using the numbers for the PDF thoughtfully added, the ham seems pretty cheap @ $1.57 per lb. I think the bigger question is why those 19 cities of deliver and to what organizations. I mean, if it's for emergency food assistance programs, are those cities the poorest? And if so, wouldn't it make more sense to send vouchers to shelters and allow them to spend on what is needed? And, why the > 6.6 million pounds of WHOLE hams in 3 and 10 lb sizes? It seems that cooking whole hams would contribute to waste. And, why 1.6 million lbs of DICED ham? You can't make sandwiches or anything out of that.

You see where I'm headed...


ATS obviously needs to setup a new category for deli meat-based conspiracies. Ever since those turkey sandwiches appeared in the sky over Mexico City, this decision has been long overdue. Seriously, do summer sausages need to rain down on the front lawn of the White House before you people will give this topic the attention it deserves? WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!

[edit on 20-7-2009 by andrewh7]



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 12:04 PM
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Who says that "he" was the one that set up this contract???? Or even gave it the go ahead for that matter....

That's why government spending is so out of control. There's no "real" oversight. The beurocrats can pretty much spend what they want once the funds are released to the Federal Government and all the seagulls (Senators, Congressmen, Gov., and Mayors) come squakin for their peice of the pie no matter how absurd their pet project may be.

So it could have been any number of legislative members or commitees that set up and approved this contract.

[edit on 20-7-2009 by lazy1981]



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