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25% believe moon landings were hoax

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posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 11:48 AM
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And passing through that radiation didnt kill them? Amazing


No, what's amazing is a lack of willingness to look it up for yourself, rather than rely on BS from the "hoaxists".

I went to great lengths to research this, and post in another thread afew weeks ago...If I can find it I'll bring it here.

Gist is: The total radiation accumulated by a satellite in Earth orbit in one year works out to about 2500 rem. That is 2,500,000 mrem. (One rem = 1000 mrem)

One year = 365 days, so that's 6850 mrem/day. The satellite passes through the Van Allen Belts twice each orbit, and each orbit is about 90 minutes. 16 orbits, twice each time, means 32 passes through the VAB. That's a dosage of 214 mrem per passage.

An average American receives about 385 mrem of radiation every year.

SO...the Apollo flights, which BTW were planned to go through the thinnest parts of the VAB, as rapidly as possible, exposed the occupants to about one year's worth of normal radiation dosage....but, of course, they had protection...the figures shown for the satellite exposure are not including any protection.

SO....deadly!?!?! Hardly.

Do Moon 'hoaxists' like to lie, distort and twist information in order to sell their books, DVDs, T-shirts, stickers and other assorted garbage???

Most definately.......




posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 12:25 PM
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what do you mean 'they never went back'??

Bad and all as that is... who are the people who Star this stuff??



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by weedwhacker
An average American receives about 385 mrem of radiation every year.



No wonder we are all sick and dying of cancer. Does that include the cell phones and other constant micro wave bombardment?



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by MR BOB
 


you know that astronaughts suffered bright flashes in their eyes? many of them reported this. it was eventually worked out it was radiation passing through their brains and eyes.


The same phenomenon happened in Tshernobyl when they had to clean up the roofs etc. Curiously enough this also happens to film still and video cameras.

[edit on 20/7/2009 by PsykoOps]



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by pale5218
The 40th anniversary of the first man on the moon lends a memory of spending the day at the beach as a kid and being woken by my parents to witness the historical event. Recently my job has brought me in contact with some folks that were very involved with the Apollo missions and have heard a number of stories from them. One in particular was interesting that I though I would share as we approach the anniversary.

Everything during these missions were scripted including who was to do what, when, where etc. If a switch was to be thrown, it was scripted. If a procedure was to be accomplished, it was scripted.

Well the story goes, Buzz Aldrin was originally supposed to be the first one down the ladder and walk on the moon, scripted of course. Neil Armstrong was the commander and this didn’t sit well with him so he pleaded his case to NASA. He felt that because he was the commander, it should be him to be the first. NASA agreed and changed the scenario, having Neil be the first down the ladder and or course making history. The script had been changed, no secrets, Buzz was aware this was changed.

Well one of the functions Buzz had was to be in charge of shooting the photos while they were on the surface of the moon. When they got back to earth after the mission, NASA reviewed the photo’s and to their surprise there was not one still photo of Neil from when they were on the surface. They asked Buzz why this was and he responded “It wasn’t in the script”.

So there is no still photo of Neil on the surface of the moon. There is video and selected frames from the videos but not one still photo. There is one catch to this, one photo of Buzz close up, shows Neil, as a reflection, in Buzz’s visor. No other still photo to this day, there apparently is no love lost between the two, either.

Peace


lol-- what a great story! I hadn't heard that one.

Can it be true? Can anyone refute Pale??



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 12:39 PM
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Only 25%? Unbelievable. There has to be more people than that with an I.Q. less than 50!



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 12:40 PM
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Zorgon I fully respect your contributions.

But let's be very clear on this point: are you suggesting that passing through the Van Allen belt, at the location reported, in the first (or subsequent) vessel(s) which is claimed to have gone to the moon, would have killed those men?



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 12:47 PM
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Russia and America are PARTNERS in the space program... always have been, but with a 'friendly rivalry' Kennedy died because his Apollo program caused 'problems'


I watched a tv show on this today too, in fact its on right now on BBC KNWLEDGE, they asked American civilians off the street if they think Russia deserves the title, and one replied "No, I don't, paticularly because they are are America's rivals. We should have been the one's up there,not them."

Do you think that the Ameriacan civilians did not know of their partnership back then?



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 12:56 PM
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There's absolutely no way 25% of Brits believe Apollo landings were a hoax. I even doubt that 25% of Brits have ever thought about the Moon landings...it's not something that ever comes up. Until I can find some evidence of how the poll was conducted...I'll assume it was BADLY conducted. If they stood outside a UFO convention at a High School...maybe.

Last year a poll claimed 80%+ Americans talked to God...and 47% claimed he talked back! Doesn't mean anything...statistical nonsense with a built-in bias.

You are 80% less likely to die from a meteor landing on your head if you wear a bicycle helmet all day.



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by jinx880101
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Russia and America are PARTNERS in the space program... always have been, but with a 'friendly rivalry' Kennedy died because his Apollo program caused 'problems'


I watched a tv show on this today too, in fact its on right now on BBC KNWLEDGE, they asked American civilians off the street if they think Russia deserves the title, and one replied "No, I don't, paticularly because they are are America's rivals. We should have been the one's up there,not them."

Do you think that the Ameriacan civilians did not know of their partnership back then?


This here:
Kennedy died because his Apollo program caused 'problems'

That 'program' might have cause a headache but didn't Von Braun and
Disney set the ground work that the Moon had possibilities.
Yet it did take 10 years.
So what was the rush to get Kennedy out of the way and put
LBJ in charge setting up a space center in his home state of Texas.



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 01:09 PM
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No, what's amazing is a lack of willingness to look it up for yourself, rather than rely on BS from the "hoaxists".

I went to great lengths to research this, and post in another thread afew weeks ago...If I can find it I'll bring it here.

Gist is: The total radiation accumulated by a satellite in Earth orbit in one year works out to about 2500 rem. That is 2,500,000 mrem. (One rem = 1000 mrem)

One year = 365 days, so that's 6850 mrem/day. The satellite passes through the Van Allen Belts twice each orbit, and each orbit is about 90 minutes. 16 orbits, twice each time, means 32 passes through the VAB. That's a dosage of 214 mrem per passage.

An average American receives about 385 mrem of radiation every year.

SO...the Apollo flights, which BTW were planned to go through the thinnest parts of the VAB, as rapidly as possible, exposed the occupants to about one year's worth of normal radiation dosage....but, of course, they had protection...the figures shown for the satellite exposure are not including any protection.

SO....deadly!?!?! Hardly.

Do Moon 'hoaxists' like to lie, distort and twist information in order to sell their books, DVDs, T-shirts, stickers and other assorted garbage???

Most definately.......


And the pilots lived healthy lives? No side affects? They must have also come back through the VAB? Is the moon subjected to radiation? How much? How long where they there? How protected where they from the radiation?

Your so right, i'm relying on "BS hoaxist's" because i cant be assed to look it up for myself. I'm sorry i'm just not that interested in something that was obviously hoaxed, to research it, provide evidence and go around in a big wide circle arguing with people about what is what. If i cant get you about the radiation, how about the flying flag? no blast crater? Peed up the footage and the guys are clearly walking?

Forget it, If you want to believe thats fine. I dont. Prove.Me.Wrong.



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 01:12 PM
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Heres a link with some photos and videos from The Apollo 11 moon landing

news.aol.co.uk...




posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 01:34 PM
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Hey OP. I thought I would respond from the perspective of a one time Moon Landing Skeptic. I now believe that mankind walked on the Moon.

The U.S. Government and Military have SECRETS! And not just the little bitty performed a small coup in a South American country type of secret I am talking Denial of Ultra Cool Military Base Area 51 type secret.

We KNOW Area 51 exists. We are not Blind we can see it. There are many pictures and videos of the base from above. You can even drive down the road and get turned away by Black Ops unmarked Guards.

I am not a bozo. But I get treated like I am an invalid by my own Government, that I pay the salary for. That I pay to fund the secret base that I cannot even know exists.

If my own Government will not even acknowledge that area 51 exists how can I trust my Government to not pull off a stunt like faking the Moon landing?

It is EXACTLY something that the U.S. Government WOULD DO!

If the Van Allen Belt had too high of a level of Radiation you can sure as hell bet that the U.S. Government would have faked the moon landing quicker than you can say "Jack Rabbit Slims".

I do not trust my own Government that I served in the military of farther than I could toss my not backed by precious metals stimulus check.

NASA is completely controlled by the U.S. Government. NASA is a government agency. The same government agency that refuses to acknowledge the existence of plainly visible bases.

The SAME Government that tells ME what I need to know on a need to know basis. Thanks for letting me know that.

The same Government that tells me I cannot know if I am on a secret list and even if I was on the secret list what the reason would even be for BEING on the list! At least they acknowledge there EXISTS a list right?

And you want me to trust these guys with being completely open and honest about space exploration? NASA is a Giant filter and we are going to hear exactly what they want to tell us. I do not believe there is ANY transparency going on at NASA. So why the hell should I trust ANYTHING these guys tell me?

Just trying to give you the perspective of the Skeptic. Hope it helped.



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 01:43 PM
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Van Allen radiation belt


On the sunward side, it is compressed because of the solar wind, while on the other side it is elongated to around three



So perhaps on the Moon Mission we were heading into the solar wind.
That is a smaller radiation cavity of particles trapped in the magnertic
fields. The particles should end up or down at the poles. The Sun's UV
is capable of knocking atmospheric gas atoms around affecting electrons
and nucleus is a possible source.

The full Earth photo under full brightness from a Moon that was also
lit by the Sun seems a bit photo impossible. Or we did stretch time
frames of lightning for both planet and moon.




[edit on 7/20/2009 by TeslaandLyne]



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
And passing through that radiation didnt kill them? Amazing

Should there ever be a nuclear war i'll be sure to stock up on some kitchen foil XD

If a little bit of radiation killed us, we'd be dropping dead every time we get a chest X-ray. If the chest X-ray doesn't kill us, why would the Apollo astronauts be killed from roughly the same exposure?



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 02:07 PM
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The high number here isn't completely inaccurate, a good number of the people at work don't believe we went there at all and I used to think the same. There have been a number of moon landing hoax documentaries over here and most people don't do their own research so they don't realise how many of the criticisms of the footage and the photos are complete bunk. After a little research of my own and a few experiments of my own I realised that given the technology of the day it wouldn't have been possible to fabricate the evidence we do have that they did go.



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 02:14 PM
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Not when a high level solar flare was going on at the same time we supposedly went to the moon. You're comment there is equivalent to comparing the radiation level of a nuclear bomb explosion to turning on the microwave for 5 seconds.

[edit on 7/20/2009 by bl4ke360]



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 02:16 PM
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If a little bit of radiation killed us, we'd be dropping dead every time we get a chest X-ray. If the chest X-ray doesn't kill us, why would the Apollo astronauts be killed from roughly the same exposure?


I'm really talking about the "over exposure" Which you must agree, is likely? I'm not saying that a bit of radiation will cause anyone a horrible death but merely speculating that these guys, if they did indeed pass through the belt, must have been Over exposed, for a considerable lengeth of time to radiation not just from the VAB but from space.



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 02:59 PM
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I believe they did go to the moon, what i do not believe is that it was in 1969 though.

The race to moon needed to have a "winner" and even if it was not in 1969 the U.S.A still got there first in the "long run".



posted on Jul, 20 2009 @ 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by PsykoOps Curiously enough this also happens to film still and video cameras.


If it didn't we would not have x-ray pictures
I also hear astronauts came back infested with nano bacteria. I will have to dig up that NASA report



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