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Excellent Report jkrog08
thanks for posting all this information about these two Very interesting ufo incidents, i appreciate the time you spent on this S+F
. now that
i have looked at both reports , i can say that i do remember hearing of these but never got a chance to take a closer look at them.
this part is convincing to me...
Lieutenant Coleman: "I noticed one UFO approach our aircraft at a terrific rate of speed. I timed it as best I could with a stop-watch over a
known distance and the flight engineer computed the speed at 5,240m.p.h. I alerted the entire crew to look for the objects visually, and flashes of
light were noted. The closest the objects came was approximately 20 miles. I saw about 20 objects in all. I recalibrated the set and there was no
change.
"The objects were small and possibly round, with the exception of one very large return shaped as follows, one- half-inch curved arc. I also noticed
a large return come up to within 40 miles of our tail from behind and then disappear. To the best of my knowledge, I believe that this object was real
and moved at an extremely high speed and was not a set malfunction or optical illusion."
Master Sergeant Bailey: "The radar operator clocked the object [the first one seen] and I computed the air speed of the object to average 5,240
m.p.h. Twice during the period, the radar operator reported an object to be passing at 3 o'clock. Upon looking out the window, I saw a blue-white
streak travel front to rear and disappear under the wing."
Staff Sergeant Ferris: "After the radar operator reported objects approaching at 4 o'clock
for me the pilot descriptions are the most valuable evidence and the radar confirmation is certainly a plus !
that report reminded me of the
RB47 UFO encounter of July 17, 1957 and was
in the same general area (the Gulf states)
The BOAC Stratocruiser UFO Incident really caught my attention since it was reported near Labrador /Goose Bay ,Canada because i did a thread on a very
similar incident that happened approximately 3 years earlier in the same general area !
One of the Best UFO story's of all time is the Bethune/Gander incident of February 10, 1951 and this case involved credible qualified observers that
were U.S. Navy personel Flying in a
C-54 Aircraft at 10,000 ft. that observed an unidentified
object over the Atlantic Ocean, near
Newfoundland Canada for about 8 minutes.
Flight crew members said an orange rimmed with dark center UFO was approximately 300 ft. in diameter and was first spotted hovering over the water.
As their plane approached and got closer to the object the UFO must have been startled by the unexpected visitors and began to change colors and grow
in size and made an advancement towards their position.
The giant UFO shot up towards them and the startled crew members banged their heads during an effort to try and duck for cover. the object then paced
the Airplane and positioned itself about a hundred feet below and about 2 hundred feet ahead. after a short peroid the UFO reversed direction at a
very sharp angle and disappeared over the horizon.
Although there is no picture of the object, there was enough witness testimony along with the object being tracked on
DEW line ground radar at the base in Goose Bay, Labrador to validate the sighting. crew members upon
landing were interrogated by Air Force intelligence officers and later interrogated by Naval intelligence. the entire crew was instructed to fill out
reports about the incident. this event was registered in the project blue book
records and the project card
lists this sighting as an Aurora display !
Gandor Case Synopsis - February 10, 1951, Off Newfoundland, Canada
On February 10, a US Navy flight, Atlantic/Continental Air Transport Squadron one, located at USN Air Station, Patuxent River, Maryland, was out of
Keflavik, Iceland at 49-50 degrees north latitude and 50-03 degrees west longitude about 150 kilometers [90 miles] west of Gander, Newfoundland out
over the Atlantic Ocean. The aircraft was probably bound for Gander to refuel judging by its position and course of 230 degrees true, though the
report does not mention this. US Naval Reserve Lieutenant Graham Bethune, copilot of Flight 125, was occupying the captain¹s seat on the left side of
the cockpit in the passenger plane when he first sighted a huge object [at least] 300 feet in diameter on a near collision course with their
aircraft.
The copilot stated in his official report, "...I observed a glow of light below the horizon about 1,000 to 1,500 feet [330-470 meters] above the
water. We both [the pilot as well] observed its course and motion for about 4 or 5 minutes before calling it to the attention of the other crew
members. ...Suddenly its angle of attack changed. Its altitude and size increased as though its speed was in excess of 1,000 miles [1,670 kilometers]
per hour. It closed in so fast that the first feeling was we would collide in mid air. At this time its angle changed and the color changed. It then
[appeared] definitely circular and reddish orange on its perimeter. It reversed its course and tripled its speed until it was last seen disappearing
over the horizon."
The copilot¹s report goes on to say that the object came within five miles of their aircraft which was borne out by radar evidence of the encounter
because the object had been tracked by DEW Line Ground Radar at the base in Goose Bay, Labrador.
Years later Bethune was able to retrieve the reports from the National Archives and confirmed that the UFO they encountered that night had
traveled 10,000 feet straight up in a fraction of a second and was tracked on radar at 1,800 miles per hour, well exceeding the 500 miles-per-hour
capacity of the most advanced man-made craft at that time.
Bethune noted that his onboard magnetic compasses were spinning wildly while the mystery craft was nearby.
We had 31 people on board and a psychiatrist we all witnessed it," he said, before adding to raucous applause: "I will testify under oath
before Congress that everything I have said is true.
Weather clear, visibility from 15 miles to unlimited, no other weather information available. No unusual meteorological activity known to exist
and having any in-fluence on the sighting. This object could not have been a comet as the object was below and between the aircraft and ocean.
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US Naval Reserve Lieutenant Graham Bethune
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Mr. Bethunes testimony at the
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in my opinion this makes four ufo reports in your thread here that give a considerable amount of credibility to the fact that there were real ufo's
being witnessed by these people. 2 story's for each part of the World, all in the 1950's ! not to mention there are hundreds of more reported that
decade.
how much more proof does somebody need
, were those CGI or "lens flares in the 50s!.I think, or rather KNOW not. 
