President Carter: Many Children Were Tortured Under Bush, page 2
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reply posted on 19-7-2009 @ 10:55 AM by FlyersFan
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
.attack the source, and ignore the charge.

Considering the source, the charge is automatically to be considered bunk.

Originally posted by suzque66
I guess you don't know your history son.

I'm a girl. I know my history. Obviously you don't.

Jimmy Carters lies
Jimmy Carter - Jew Hater and Genocide Enabler
Jimmy Carter's Settlement Freeze Lies
Jimmy Carter - lies, slander and Jew Hatred
Carters Book Full of Lies
Florida Officials Shred Jimmy Carters Lies
Carter lays wreath at grave of mass murdering, pedophile terrorist Arafat
Carter - worst president in history
Jimmy Carter - worst president ever

* in his first month in office he cut the Defense Budget by $6 Billion dollars

* he unilaterally removed all nuclear weapons and reduced U.S. Troop levels in South Korea

* he canceled the the B-1 bomber program, further weakening the U.S. Military

* he reinstated the draft

* his SALT (Strategic Arms Limitations Talks) One and Two treaties served only to weaken U.S. defense

* Carter's National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski admitted that the United States began sending aid to anti-Soviet Afghan Islamist factions on July 3, 1979 (even then Carter was a sympathetic ally of Islamofascists)

* Carter and Brzezinski started a $40 billion covert program of training Islamic fundamentalists in Pakistan and Afghanistan

* he single-handedly ruined our relationship with Iran, a U.S. ally since World War II thereby allowing Iran's maturation into the world threat that it is today

* he refused to allow American athletes to participate in the 1980 Moscow Summer Olympics

* he increased the payroll tax for Social Security

* the prime lending rate hit 21.5% in December 1980, the highest rate in U.S. history under any President


More of Jimmy Carter - worst president ever

Gas lines hours long. Iran hostage crisis fumbled. Inflation out of control.
Gave away the Panama Canal.

Now he's bestowing legitimacy to the rigged "elections" of world dictators.
Now he's just out telling lies.

How dare you call this man 'desperate to be important'.

Because it's the truth.

Your former (and awesome) President Jimmy Carter is well loved and respected here,

Canada loves him? That doesn't surprise me.
You can have him. Heck ... take his little buddy Obama as well.


reply posted on 19-7-2009 @ 11:22 AM by JohnnyCanuck
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
.attack the source, and ignore the charge.

Considering the source, the charge is automatically to be considered bunk...

Jimmy Carters lies
Jimmy Carter - Jew Hater and Genocide Enabler
Jimmy Carter's Settlement Freeze Lies
Jimmy Carter - lies, slander and Jew Hatred
Carters Book Full of Lies
Florida Officials Shred Jimmy Carters Lies
Carter lays wreath at grave of mass murdering, pedophile terrorist Arafat
Carter - worst president in history
Jimmy Carter - worst president ever


Now FF, you are being disingenuous at the very least...
When I stated the incongruity between recent Palestinian losses in the Gaza with those of the Israelis, roughly a 100 to one ratio...you responded by attacking the source, Huffingon Post. In turn, here you are citing your sources...a series of web logs of decidedly partisan nature.

You can't have it both ways and expect to be treated seriously. And you still refuse to address the issues at hand. I think I recognise that pattern.

Deny ignorance, indeed.



reply posted on 19-7-2009 @ 11:49 AM by suzque66
reply to post by FlyersFan


Ooops, since your nik was a hockey fan I naturally assumed you were a guy...me bad lol.

But all of your anti-Carter sites are blaaaa

He did nothing intentionally evil of the sort. He did what was best for the country at the time.

Back in the day, Afghani-s we fighting other territories and it was a necessity. Not to mention how the Russians were involved. He was a peace-loving man doing the best he could and took as little advice from his peers (outside of Congress) that he could. Do not forget, all he did had Congressional approval, so if you didn't, then your parents gave approval for what he said and did. He went against mainstream on many subjects. Good for him.


reply posted on 19-7-2009 @ 02:05 PM by spikey
reply to post by dawnstar


I hear you dawnstar.

And i agree 100%.

Yes, i can see the dilema..if a soldier refuses to go along with this kind of thing with others in his/her section or unit, they are running a serious risk of a fast encounter from 'friendly fire'. I get that.

Every situation is unique i guess, and you play your cards as they are dealt to you i suppose, but everything considered, if it comes down to raping and torturing children i would do everything in my power to prevent it. So would the vast majority of the guys i was in the Army with at the time. Thinking back, i can't think of a single person i was with, who would have done similar things to kids. Adult enemy combatants are a different story, especially if they had just blown a few of my fellows up! The difference is the adults have a choice.

This sort of thing happened in Vietman too, and i suspect more than a few 'officers' and soldiers met with unfortunate accidents around this kind of thing.

Apart from the obvious inhumanity, this is also counterproductive.
How the hell are we to win over the hearts and minds, if we are thought of as evil incarnate, and doing a pretty good job of justifying the title?

Yeah, i'd like to see the Bush cartel in the hague for war crimes too.
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