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Originally posted by I think Im normal
Whats not fine? give an example of how something is not fine please. How has slavery some 300 odd years ago affected you personally?
My ancestors bequeathed me what exactly? My family did not come to this country until much later. So does this mean since my family lives in America now we automatically get stereotyped into ownership of colonial Americas past just because we are of white skin color? Is that not in itself racism at its finest? You seem to think all white people had something to do with slavery in America. One thing I know it is affecting, is the fact that I have to listen to someone wine about something they truly had nothing to do with. Just because you may be black does not mean you have a clue what it was like to be a black slave. I got the same history lesson you did in school, know why they call it history? because it was his story, not yours.
I come from a very poor family who works to pay their bills and put food on the table, You know how many jobs I have been turned down from? Did I scream discrimination? how could I right? I'm not black so I wouldn't know about discrimination, nope I don't know anything about affirmative action or reverse racism. nope possibly couldn't know about that.
The only reason I have anything at all is because I showed some sort of initiative and joined the military when all other jobs were turning me down. I could have turned to petty things like crime, but that's the easy way out. I could ask for handouts, that's the easy way out. I did my time in the military and learned a trade and now I am back in college learning a second trade. Hence I got up off my butt and got my own. TWICE. I did not complain that I was being held back because some companies would not hire me.
So tell me what advantages do I as a white man have that you as a black man do not?
You can say you don't know what its like to be a black man, I can say you have no clue what its like to be a white man, you know what? It doesn't matter.
Your sure or you know for a fact that your ancestors were in fact slaves? You as a black American today are given the opportunities any other American are given, I say American as a whole since we have so many different races in this country.
This is not Colonial America. I did not own a slave, you were not a slave, I do not know any black people who had ancestors who were slaves. I do not know any white people who were slave owners.
Nobody here is given opportunities. We're all competing against each other for them. And as I have explained, as a white guy, you have nothing blocking your way, the rest of us have hurdles.
However, one thing I do have in common with most blacks is that I don't much appreciate clueless white people speaking patronizingly to me.
You don't know any black people who's ancestors were slaves? I think we're done here, then!
Originally posted by I think Im normal
I will take a look at the book. I have it up in another window at the moment.
I go back to what I said, you are seeing what you want to see, your not commenting on the other views in this thread in your summary, you seem to only be seeing the negativity that was posted in this thread and seem to be avoiding the other views.
what is the reason or reasons black Americans are at a disadvantage and how do white Americans have the upper hand?
You say the answer is in the book, I want to know your reasons, not the books reasons.
What specifically have you been through?
Remember discrimination is not indicative to one race and therefor one persons experience with discrimination does not mean just because you share the same skin color that you are being discriminated against. This is why I am asking, how have you been discriminated against.
Back on topic, How can discrimination be the cause of black Americans problems? Is discrimination the cause of the white Americans problems?
It comes down to individual accountability.
Originally posted by DaisyAnne
reply to post by I think Im normal
Nope, I am posting exactly what was said in this thread. And I quote:
Make Speed Limit 45: Very few black engineers in this world. Blacks just don't have the brains for technology.
Make Speed Limit 45: Very few blacks are engineers or architects or physicists or chemists. Blacks go into entertainment or athletics or crime.
Originally posted by Make Speed Limit 45
Yes i said that and i gave a link showing how few blacks earn PhDs in technology fields. If you have evidence otherwise lets see it. Another interesting bit of info is that only one black has ever won a science Nobel Prize.
Excerpt from: Graduate Educational Opportunities for African Americans in Chemistry.
The disproportionately low numbers of African American students enrolled in and graduating from chemistry graduate programs undoubtedly reflect a complex interplay of numerous and well known socio-economic forces, some of which cause (or result in) race and gender bias in education at all levels. However, we contend, based on our experience in this department, that these numbers do NOT reflect any lack of inherent capability in chemistry by African Americans. The twenty [African American] students engaged in chemistry graduate studies at LSU, the majority of whom attended undergraduate HBCU's, are succeeding in all facets of the program at rates which are as good as or better than the other 90 graduate students. We believe their success is due to many factors, including the existence of a faculty role model, general faculty commitment to strong mentoring, a solid peer group, and a generally heterogeneous and divers graduate student population. With proper undergraduate preparation, and in the right graduate environment, African Americans can and will become tomorrow's leading chemists in industry, education and research.
Graduate Educational Opportunities for African Americans in Chemistry. Steven Watkins and Isiah M. Warner Department of Chemistry, Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge, Louisiana