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posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 02:40 PM
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Obama losing support among nervous Democrats


macedoniaonline.eu

Could it be that President Barack Obama's Midas touch is starting to dull a bit, even among members of his own party?


Conservative House Democrats are balking at the cost and direction of Obama's top priority, an overhaul of the nation's health care system. A key Senate Democrat, Max Baucus of Montana, complains that Obama's opposition to paying for it with a tax on health benefits "is not helping us."

Another Democrat, Rep. Dan Boren of Oklahoma, tells his local newspaper that Obama is too liberal and is "very unpopular" in his district.
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posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 02:40 PM
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I'm not a Democrat but I voted for Pres. Obama. But like many others the bloom is off the rose for me also. I admit, I expected something different; like bringing our troops home from a war that is a no win situation. Like not sweeping the Bush corruption under the rug, and not being a shill for big business but working for the middle class for a change.
I was wrong! However the office of the President should be respected not and slandered with calling him the Antichrist. As much as I disliked President Bush; the office deserves better than adolescent name calling.

macedoniaonline.eu
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[edit on 18-7-2009 by whaaa]



posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 03:00 PM
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It just goes to show that campaign promises mean literally nothing seeing as Obama has failed to honor pretty much any of the one's he made while running - that is except for forcing through this massively insane health care reform package and the criminal cap and trade laws that are set to bankrupt the last remaining bit of our economy and cripple small businesses all across the nation.

This man was elected on smoke and mirrors and promises of big change that hasn't been delivered. Not only have our troops not been brought home, they are now being forced to wage a new war in Afghanistan, which also has no end date in sight.

He has filled every position in his cabinet and across the government with liars and banking industry execuitives and lobbyists. The same evil men who caused our economy to collapse have been rewarded with free reign over the tax dollars of American's everywhere.

So far all Barry has managed to do is tour around the world like some rock star, appeasing and apologizing to our enemies and casting newer and better ideas for the bankruptcy and enslavement of us all.

I never thought I could ever possibly miss George W. Bush in any way, but at least with him you knew where he stood and he didn't pretend to be anything other than corrupt. Obama fooled an entire nation of people who were desperate for a better path. He lied and used and wormed his way into the psyche of the American people and he stole their confidence and support by making promises that he full well knew he would never honor.

Plain and simple the man is a liar and a shill for the same exact people who have been running the show for the last century or more. He is a handsome, fresh young African American face being used as a front man to calm the unrest of the people while the Pelosi's and the Emmannuel's of his administration legislate us all into our future graves.


I didn't vote for the man, and honest to God I knew in my gut what we were in for. I just hope that there is an America left to fix after four years of this administration.



posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 04:28 PM
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B.

His speeches are so articulate, well written, presented, compassionate and I wanted to believe him but I don't anymore.

I was hoping to leave my Bush cynicism behind and regain some hope for the future, believe that perhaps, just perhaps their might be some honor and class left in the political arena. Oh well.....

Cynicism and sarcasm is my forte anyhow.



[edit on 18-7-2009 by whaaa]



posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 04:30 PM
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However the office of the President should be respected not and slandered with calling him the Antichrist.

Of course not: that would be an insult to the Antichrist.
I do believe that reality is finally setting in, and the shiny new champion of the people is losing his luster. Good post, whaaa, S&F.


TA



posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 04:32 PM
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Day after day I read more stuff that makes me hate Obama. He is not doing anything that he promised (of course no one sticks by what they say when they are campaigning)..

Where is all the promised "change" this man was going to bring America? I dont see it.

I've COMPLETELY given up on our government. We are headed for VERY hard times....

This is unrelated but (a lot of) people only voted for him because he was young and black and they thought he'd be "different" than the typical old white dude. It disgusts me. He is no diff than any corruptass politician. Hell, I'm half black myself and even I say this.

Obviously some people who voted for him agreed with his viewpoints, I am just saying it seems a lot of people voted without even knowing his politics too..

The man is just a good public speaker, thats all. This man is a liar and deceiver.


Peace!


[edit on 18-7-2009 by jeasahtheseer]



posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 04:45 PM
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I have friends and family who voted for Obama as well so I know how you feel, a lot of people wanted to believe in what he was pushing. Hell even I hoped that he was the genuine article, lord knows none of us wanted another four years of Bush at the wheel.

I really don't blame folks for voting for the guy, he was charming and charasmatic and full of big ideas and even bigger promises. And face it, compared to that out dated fossil McCain he seemed like a God send.

Throughout the election I just couldn't shake the feeling that Obama was a ringer, too good to be true and designed by PR companies to sell the new deal to a bunch of consumer hungry, desperate Americans who were sustaining a failing economy and very little hope.

Just the same, I personally believe that McCain was a sacrificial scapegoat and they ran him against Obama because they knew most thinking Americans would not choose to go down that same old tired path. Ever wonder why McCain seemed so happy at the end and all too eager to concede to Obama? I have always believed that this was the plan all along, and in turn McCain would be guaranteed a comfy job in the Senate and who knows what else.


They knew what was coming down the pipeline. More war, awful recession, poverty, economic instability in state government, possibly even knew about the whole swine flu pandemic coming up. The PTB needed a well dressed, well groomed, well educated messiah to come along and stroke and subdue the American people who were becoming angry and defiant.

It was a great plan and they are succeeding, because despite any protest and despite any backlash by the Congress or the people, they are continuing to implement these horrendous, devious policies whether we are in agreement or not. Bottom line, they are doing what they have always done, only now they are using the "good cop" method instead of the "bad cop" method to make it happen.

So my point is....don't beat yourself up for buying in, a lot of people did. Im pretty sure as it stood it was a lose /lose election for the American voters anyway.

Just my $0.02...nothing more.



posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 04:53 PM
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So my point is....don't beat yourself up for buying in, a lot of people did. Im pretty sure as it stood it was a lose /lose election for the American voters anyway.

That is a very true statement. In fact, in general almost all recent Presidential Elections have been lose/lose. The problem is that the two-party system provides no real distinction in policies. In addition, the primary process is so random, lacking any uniformity from state to state, and the actual number of voters who end up "selecting" the winning nominees is usually on the order of roughly 2-7% of the eligible electorate. Furthermore, with the corporate backing through PACS and other work-arounds of the contribution limitation show who really choose the nominees. Finally, the MSM has their own agenda in terms of who gets elected, and in 2008, there is no doubt that the MSM wanted photogenic, articulate Obama.



posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by whaaa
I'm not a Democrat but I voted for Pres. Obama. But like many others the bloom is off the rose for me also. I admit, I expected something different; like bringing our troops home from a war that is a no win situation. Like not sweeping the Bush corruption under the rug, and not being a shill for big business but working for the middle class for a change.
I was wrong! However the office of the President should be respected not and slandered with calling him the Antichrist. As much as I disliked President Bush; the office deserves better than adolescent name calling.

macedoniaonline.eu
(visit the link for the full news article)



[edit on 18-7-2009 by whaaa]


You believed a politician, sure you aren't a Democrat, you're just naive
No offense...but seriously...never believe a politician...there are maybe 2 in Washington that mean what they say and say what they mean...and do as they say.



posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 05:07 PM
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So who is worse? Bush or Obama - Taking into account Bush as a president and not just iraq/afghanistan.

This question 6 months ago would have resulted in hysterical laughter. It still might result in light chuckles but its closer now. I would still go with Bush simply due to the way the wars have impacted on every aspect of our society.

However i have certainly lost all of the optimism i had for Obama six months ago.



posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 05:13 PM
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Something tells me we'll be stuck with the 2 party system forever.

Should a third party candidate ever start picking up speed you know damn well he'll/she'll be assassinated.

If people start taking control of the government you know damn well they'll start a home grown war and kill 90% of the population.

Lose lose situation for sure, any way you look at it.

Edit to add - the second hundred days not like the first.

[edit on 18-7-2009 by Alxandro]

[edit on 18-7-2009 by Alxandro]



posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 05:16 PM
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I voted for Obama, but I didn't expect him to fix everything that is wrong in the country and still don't, so I can't say I am bitterly disappointed - I didn't have such high expectations in the first place.

I mainly voted for him in the hopes that he'd pursue a less aggressive foreign policy, which he has done, and a less authoritarian domestic policy, where he has had mixed results. If he gets a UHC plan passed I will also be glad.

On the other hand, he has continued Bush/Clinton era increased executive power grabs, about which I am very displeased.

But like I said, I didn't expect very much, just an administration somewhat less awful than Bush's, so so far I can't really complain.



posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 11:18 PM
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If Obama loses support in the House and Congress of the party faithful; his lofty programs are bound to fail. Perhaps it's a good thing for more deliberation to take place rather than steamroll programs thru.



posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 11:48 PM
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Look, the man is far worse than Bush could ever be, and I am not a Bush supporter. The problem was, it was obvious that he was a corrupt, leftist, if not down right communist politician, even from the beginning.

Look at his associations and his beliefs for goodness sakes. His spiritual advisor called on God to damn America and preached hate every day from the pulpit. His political mentor is an unrepentant terrorist, who's glad his bombs killed government workers.

He was financed by a corrupt islamic slum lord, who paid him for quid pro quo, and he refused to reveal his birth certificate and lied about his muslim religious beliefs. All this was available to any voter who wanted to dig deep enough into their candidate.

So I would say we got what we deserved, if it weren't for the sad fact that I get to suffer along with the rest of the do-gooders who voted for this moral slob.



posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 11:49 PM
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We are seeing what he promised! He promised change! There's change! It's just a change from a Republic to a Democratic Socialist form of governance and all that it entails!!!!
Is it just me or does anyone else notice this? When ever a photograph of him is posted in the MSM about something he gave a speech about. The photo looks like Obama took posing lessons from Mussolini! Either that or Mussolini's photographer has been reincarnated! He's always gazing into the abyss with a knowing air or pointing his finger at something to make the point that "I know best and you better believe it"! The only picture of him that looks normal is the one of him staring at that ladies butt in France!


Zindo



posted on Jul, 19 2009 @ 03:05 PM
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Why do the Obama faithfuls tend to avoid threads like this?
Instead of facing the truth they choose to do non productive things like bashing Palin.



posted on Jul, 19 2009 @ 04:08 PM
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The "who's the worse president, Bush or Obama" question is hilarious to me. Virtually all of the Bush haters based their hatred on a large disconnect between ideals. For all intents and purposes, however, the ultimate financial cost of the man's presidency to America wasn't that bad. For the first 6+ years, things ran quite well apart from the cost 9/11, Katrina, and Iraq placed on us. The first 2 weren't Bush's fault (sorry, but I have yet to see anything that has swayed me to believe the 9/11 inside job theory) and the third issue was possibly the one thing I believe Bush grossly mishandled. I can't care less why we took out Hussein... He was a perpetual irritant and I'm thrilled we crushed him, but we could have done it at a fraction of the cost by leveling Iraq from the air, killing/capturing Hussein, and then leaving immediately rather than wasting American tax dollars on wastefull rebuilding of our enemy. It's war, not kindergarten, so why do we aid our enemies rather than claiming spoils? I'll never get that one.

Obama, on the other hand, is ramrodding America into financial ruin and that's completely unacceptable. Bush passed TARP, which was a huge crock of crap, but it was also a -loan- not an open handover of taxpayer dollars. Huge difference. Furthermore, it was the mortgage crisis that started this and Obama was a major part of why that occured. Bush, 2+ years ago went to Congress and said "reign in Freddie and Fannie because they're fiving home loans they'll never see repaid and we're heading for disaster.". Obama and co ignored Bush thanks to the Mac's greasing their palms, and the whole works collapsed. It's no coincidence that America's finances were pretty damn solid until the Nancy Pelosis and Harry Rieds took over following the 2006 elections.

Another thing that amuses me, for years Clinton bashers were mocked by Clinton supporters for complaining about Bill's ideals. His supporters pointed to the economy and talked about how great a president he was purely based on the bottom line. Well, using that criteria, Bush was an "ok" president while, 6 months in, Obama has been easily the worst president this country has EVER seen, hands down.

Furthermore, he's a poor speaker with little charisma. Rather, Obama is an outstanding reader, someone whom would certainly be well served taking a career path on a PBS kids show like "Between the Lions" or "Reading Rainbow" as a book reader for children to get the enthused about reading. I'm basing this assessment off of my observations of him attempting to speak without being able to read his statements verbatim, such as when he's been asked an unscripted question or has suffered a teleprompter manfunction. During those times he suddenly goes from being Mr Great Orator to closer resembling Dustin Hoffman in Rain Man just without the keen math skills.

As for the "respect the office" argument, I do respect the office, which is exactly why I am so sickened to see him befouling it with his atrocious crusades and his blatent disrespect of America and Americans.



posted on Jul, 19 2009 @ 04:13 PM
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Didn't read all the replies but he is a liar
He is in politics after all .
I guess one thing that gets me the most is the whole lie about bringing the Troops home from Iraq
NEWS FLASH ~~ IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ...There will always be a certain amount of troops in the country .ALWAYS
True Story

Not to mention most the idiots that scream for the troops to come home have no dog in the fight .They just B^%ch to hear their own voice I guess ,the majority of them have no concern for the soldiers or the families .Its a life they can't understand . Its really disgusting to me



posted on Jul, 19 2009 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by whaaa
Obama losing support among nervous Democrats

I'm thinking the proper title for this thread should have been this - Obama losing support among SMART Democrats.



Originally posted by xmotex
I didn't have such high expectations in the first place.

Very smart.

I feel bad for those who got swept up in the change-mania. I understand why they wanted it to be true. For those who have come off the hope-ium high and see what was voted in .... it's got to be heartbreaking.



posted on Jul, 19 2009 @ 04:20 PM
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Less aggressive? like sending thousands more troops to afghanistan and still continuing to cross the border of a sovereign country and bomb them? Sorry,i get really fed up when people think Bush or Obama had absolutely ANY say in foreign policy or any other important matter.Both them read the teleprompter...thats what the presidents job is these days,they are a lame duck and have little to no power.

[edit on 19-7-2009 by Solomons]



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